Ryan O'Reilly Said he lost the "love of the game" multiple times this season.

[Kale Makar]

I'd pay him 10 million to come back to the Avs just so we could win a faceoff.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

Here comes the "Subject Matter Experts of Avs Ex-Players Brigade". I'll never understand it. They do the same with Duchene as well. People don't change and evolve as human beings, who knew.

Hahaha, what a brilliant over simplification of an entire fanbase based on one poster who happens to support Duchene entirely and still misses him as a player. Well done sir or madam.

 

[branch]

Hahaha, what a brilliant over simplification of an entire fanbase based on one poster who happens to support Duchene entirely and still misses him as a player. Well done sir or madam.

It's an endemic problem IMO but I appreciate your objectivity

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Stupid quote taken out of context. Nobody works harder than him and nobody hates losing more than him. He wants to be a key piece in Buffalo turning it around, he doesn’t want out. He wants guys to hate losing a bit more, have some damn pride.

God, I’d love him back on the Avs.

 

[aufheben]

Does nobody here have any critical thoughts or reasoning.

Yes, ROR signed for money and nobody is blaming him for that. What everyone is saying is that he signed with a franchise that has been very bad for a while now, and was historically bad when he signed there, because he values the money over real success.

That's not true. People didn't just start criticizing this guy yesterday, and he is far from the only player on here to be criticized for the same reason.

He consciously chose to sign with a losing team to secure himself financially. That is a completely valid life move, you just cannot complain about all the losing afterwards

Did you watch the interview? That hardly qualifies as complaining. He is clearly genuinely dejected by the whole situation.

Initially people ripped on this guy for only caring about money, and now he's getting ripped on for caring about his team. There's nothing mutually exclusive between the two. Where's the line in here between criticism and reveling?

Everyone has a right to dislike the guy, I'm just trying to understand why (unless you're an Avs fan, or because the whole Tim Hortons incident lol).

I love how people act like the Sabres being bad is a culture thing and not a "have drafted like 6 top6/top4 players since the lockout and traded half of them away" thing.

I do wonder sometimes about this "losing culture" thing, and how much it's really a factor.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

It's an endemic problem IMO but I appreciate your objectivity

Every fanbase has their baggage. I could go around the entire NHL and pull out things that are general groupthink, doesn't mean I'm going to call out people on them (or at least I try not to, we're all human).

Duchy's baggage is fresh with Avs fans, he wanted to go to a playoff team and ended up leaving one instead. ROR's baggage still stings, he was a really good player many liked and he out-priced himself from the team and held out in Russia. We're also a fanbase hit hard recently with poor play, poor veteran leadership and poor management. So the issues are going to be more vocal.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

O’Reilly’s reason for leaving the Avs: “I’m just as good as Duchene and shouldn’t be making less.”

Duchene’s reason for leaving the Avs: “I’m tired of losing and want to make the playoffs.”

One guy wanted respect, which the previous regime never showed him. Other guy was completely coddled for years with an internal team cap underneath his salary, yet returned the favour by asking for a trade because he thought the team sucked.

I know which one I prefer.

 

[branch]

O’Reilly’s reason for leaving the Avs: “I’m just as good as Duchene and shouldn’t be making less.”

Duchene’s reason for leaving the Avs: “I’m tired of losing and want to make the playoffs.”

One guy wanted respect, which the previous regime never showed him. Other guy was completely coddled for years with an internal team cap underneath his salary, yet returned the favour by asking for a trade because he thought the team sucked.

I know which one I prefer.

@Lonewolfe2015

 

[SaltNPeca]

Regardless of how good life is a lot of us "loose the love" of our jobs or hobbies or even family. It's hard to be "ON" all the time, especially when experiencing some failures in a high pressure situation. No need to over analyze this.

Good luck in Denmark ROR and hopefully the Sabers pick it up next year. No where to go but up!

 

[Sansbacon]

Eichel will learn in time, but it was stupid for them to make him captain so young. He doesn't have a natural leadership mentality the way a guy like Matthews does.

Say what, now?

 

[Captain Creampuff]

Losing culture is real

 

[Ceremony]

So we're going to pretend Colorado was anything more than a middling team during his tenure there? Better than bottom rung (except in '13 and in '17 , after he was gone), but still not truly competitive. This is obviously just another dogpile on Buffalo thread ft. character assassinations and what not, so carry on.

I said I hope he's miserable for the rest of his career, I didn't say anything about the Sabres.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Oh yea, Sabres suck because of ROR and eichel! Probably Reinhart, Scandella, Risto too!


Totally not because of girgensons, Larson, pominville, lehner, Johnson, Nolan, bogosian, gorges, Beaulieu, pouliout, McCabe, or josefson.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

At least Buffalo isn't a totally screwed organization as a whole - its just the last 5 years. They bounce back in the next two years

a few other teams are in worse shape with better teams

 

[EichHart]

Ror set the nhl record for faceoff wins this year. He also put up 61 pts on by far the lowest scoring team in the league. He only took 2 penalty minutes the entire season. He plays good defensive hockey. I never questioned his effort all year, he gives it all every game. He is worth his contract. The entire team is frustrated with the results. We need depth on this team, our top players perform. The Larsson, Girgensons, Nolan, bogosian, lehner, Beaulieu, Pominville need to be gone. Adding Alex, Casey, Guhle and hopefully a top 3 pick this year will add the needed depth to improve a little bit. Housley coaching is what worries me the most. But the concept of a losing culture is very much real. However, we’ve seen some impressive turn arounds recently in the Nhl.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

He needs to get out of Buffalo which won't help Buffalo but they may need to blow it up again

 

[pigpen65]

Tim Murray took the whole goddamn organization down. Well done Ottawa. Your plan to sabotage a division rival's rebuild worked to perfection. Why the hell didn't you take out Toronto too though?

 

[valet]

At least Buffalo isn't a totally screwed organization as a whole - its just the last 5 years. They bounce back in the next two years

a few other teams are in worse shape with better teams

I tend to agree with this, that is if the new management doesn't drop the ball like the old guard did

 

[valet]

Losing culture is real

maybe if you like to impose narratives on people and places without any sincere effort at analysis the idea of losing culture is real... but I think most sensible people would think that taking a closer look at any situation is a better approach

 

[BHD]

So if Duchene ever expresses his feelings about the losing culture in Ottawa, are people going to rake him through the coals too?