He might have been looking for a drive-thru window..... But all kidding aside, ROR is a bum in my book for endangering the lives of innocent people on the road. He has NO EXCUSE for not arranging for alternative transportation considering the crazy amount of money he makes. Throw the book at him!!!!!!
Ryan O'Reilly charged with Impaired Driving [Mod Warning OP]
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MOGlLNY
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Who cares? He's gonna get a good lawyer will get very minimum punishment and he can't get suspended by the league for this anyways. This isn't like getting busted with $800 dollars in drugs or abusing your wife. Absolutely comical what some are saying they think his punishment should be. Even if he couldn't manage a top of the line lawyer his punishment still wouldn't effect him much. Would have a limited driver's license to get to work, etc.
lol. If he got pulled over in the US he would've been at the legal limit.. So
lol. If he got pulled over in the US he would've been at the legal limit.. So
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Mattilaus
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That's actually pretty much how it goes for everyone in Ontario for a first offense of this nature. But I am sure when it comes out you will still talk about how corrupt the law is with regard to athletes despite more than likely being treated as anyone would in this case.
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I didn't say anything about texting which I too think is a B.S. act and should warrant stiffer penalties but think that is fair to mention in regards to your post. As for your parents owning a bar etc I was a bartender for a few years at a very popular bar in Los Angeles and saw more than my fair share of drunks
but that doesn't make drinking and driving anyone more of a simple mistake then any other criminal act done by a first time offender under certain circumstances.
What RoR did (same goes with any other drunk driver) is the same thing as walking into a big room with lots of people in it but on a blindfold pull out a loaded gun and start spinning around firing it. He took a vehicle that weighs a couple of tons while he was drunk and drove it around where he could easily have killed an innocent bystander or more. Simply because any single one of us can find means to justify his actions doesn't excuse the potential outcome. That saying "he could have killed someone" is there for a reason and it applies perfectly with RoR's situation. He further complicated things by leaving the scene which is another cowardly act.
What RoR did was very very serious and shouldn't be downplayed simply because it used to be alright or a family member owned a bar etc. This is a situation where RoR is lucky to not have killed someone. He is a first offender and while his crime is severe it shouldn't cost him his lively hood it should be strong enough to send a message that shows his behavior won't be tolerated under any circumstances. Before the NHL allows him to return to play he should be made to undergo a driving safety course as well as have to complete the league mandated drug/alcohol rehabilitation program as listed in the NHLPA. After that all of the best RoR and here is to your return to what looks like a promising young career. Forgiveness for his crimes and that is that. With the exception being that if he gets a 2nd "DUI" that he be suspended for a year and be made to attend a more serious rehabilitation program.
I know what I propose may be soft but that is pretty much what anyone else would have to go through for doing the same thing. I believe that what RoR is as severe as any other NHL player who has convicted a crime over the past couple of years but since it is a first offense I believe that patience and guidance are more important then severe punishment.
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tony d
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No excuse for drunk driving whatsoever. I don't care who you are you should get a stiff punishment for this.
Taxis are way overpriced. Thank god Uber came to my city. Uber is much cheaper and better transportation than Taxis.
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Certainly, the issue of social inequality – and here we teeter on the edge of an uncomfortable discussion on race – is a factor, but I was trying to put across the point that the good boy / bad boy gulf is just not as cut and dried as I believe it has been viewed historically.
Unaffiliated
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Yeah, no, it's not.
It's also not the same thing as using a random number generator to launch nuclear ICBMs at random places around the globe.
This situation shouldn't be downplayed, but it shouldn't be grossly exaggerated either.
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So driving drunk isn't as dangerous? You have to be kidding me. Anyone who gets drunk and drives is taking the lives of everyone they see and several that they may not into their hands. It happens every day and several times at that. Drunk driving is one of the most extremely dangerous things that happen in public in our society. I can't understand why anyone would think otherwise. But I can understand someone not liking my analogy so if mine is flawed pose your own.
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Yeah, no, it's not.
It's also not the same thing as using a random number generator to launch nuclear ICBMs at random places around the globe.
This situation shouldn't be downplayed, but it shouldn't be grossly exaggerated either.
So help me out, give me an acceptable analogy. Remember that thousands of people are killed each year by drunken drivers and then fire away.
Canadienna
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DOES ANYONE have a credible source to quote what his blood alch level was, some people keep saying .05 but I haven't found any evidence of that.
This wouldn't be so scummy and be getting the reaction it is if he didnt flee the scene after.
You play stupid games and you will win stupid prizes.
This wouldn't be so scummy and be getting the reaction it is if he didnt flee the scene after.
You play stupid games and you will win stupid prizes.
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Why do you even need an analogy? It's like being dumb and getting behind the wheel drunk.
If you want a proper analogy, you need to the probability and severity of an incident. Just to start, you'll want an approximation on the number of times anyone drives drunk per year and the number of deaths and injuries (both minor and severe) per year.
Then, you need to find something that produces similar results in terms of incidents per occurrence, deaths per incident, and injuries per incident.
Just a heads up, though: the math won't come out nearly as bad as unloading blindfolded on a room with "lots of people".
If you want to make a point, use numbers. Don't use wild, unrealistic, and statistically dissimilar analogies.
Given that the charge was for drving while impaired with a blood alcohol content over .08, I'd say that .05 number is not credible at all.
From the original article "OPP announced Monday that O’Reilly, 24, from Bluewater, Ont., had been charged with driving a motor vehicle while ability impaired (alcohol) and care or control over 80 mgs."
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Does anyone really believe this is an isolated incident? Do you believe this is the first time he's driven while impaired, or simply the first time he's been caught driving while impaired?
I'd say the latter is much more likely than the former.
I'd say the latter is much more likely than the former.
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well, according to the report, his bal was over 80 milligrams, which would mean over .08 in the U.S., unless I'm reading it incorrectly.
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Bingo
And for all the people defending this ahole or excusing drinking and driving as not that bad try going to a funeral for a friend killed drinking and driving, actually try going to 3 funerals for people who's lives were lost and families destroyed by it and see if you'll still have your smug it's not that bad attitude, wake the **** up or GTFO cause dollars to donuts you drink and drive yourself
Russian Roulette in a crowded room is exactly what it is like
Tyler2829
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Probably. But there's also probably a large number of athletes who drive while impaired who have never gotten caught or have but it's been swept under the rug.
Let's just hope since he was caught, he will be one to change his ways.
Yup. I live in Vegas and this city is practically fueled by alcohol. I've known too many people injured or killed by drunk drivers. It's unacceptable behavior plain and simple.
And the apologists in this thread saying it was a mistake or saying people like us are on high horses are really showing their character defending this type of behavior.
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No one said it wasn't. He contended that because someone did something, intent has been demonstrated. Seems to fly in the face of law. If one can get away with murder because they weren't of sound judgement, can you say that someone who has taken something known to affect your brain and decision making has "intent"?
All kinds of drunk people have no idea what they are doing. Doesn't excuse it or lessen it. Just seems odd to attach "intent" to something when their brain isn't all there. Of course in his case what he did after would lead you more down the road of where his level of thought was but to simply say "he did it therefore he intended to" seems a touch elementary.
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He was a .08, not a .30. NOT excusing it whatsoever, but he just above the legal limit, likely had no more than a couple beers. Your outrageous analogy suggests he took 13 shots of vodka and drove the wrong way down a busy highway. Much more likely he simply hit the gas instead of the brake when pulling in, or thought he was in reverse when pulling out but was in drive; mistakes you often see made by sober people. He clearly did not go flying off the road into the shop. I still think he is an idiot for this but as long as he owns it and moves on incident free, I am not going to give a **** in 6 months
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