Speculation: Ryan Graves to MTL

[A Loyal Dog]

What is Ryan Graves' value? I do like him a lot (from what I've seen).

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[Agalloch]

+41, is that real??

 

[Avs44]

Yeah, between Zadorov and Graves it’s easily Z being moved. The coach trusts one and not the other.

 

[Agalloch]

Yeah, between Zadorov and Graves it’s easily Z being moved. The coach trusts one and not the other.

I don't mind trying Zadorov in MTL then.

 

[A Loyal Dog]

Yeah, between Zadorov and Graves it’s easily Z being moved. The coach trusts one and not the other.

But what's Graves' value?

 

[A Loyal Dog]

I don't mind trying Zadorov in MTL then.

I don't mind him either, but only for the right price.

 

[Mike Hasselhoffman]

Would love to have Graves in Montreal but having watched a decent amount of Avalanche hockey I just don’t see them wanting to trade him. He’s just so solid defensively, does a lot of the little stuff right.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

But what's Graves' value?

Hard to say. Before the season I'd have said around a 4th round pick or maybe less.

Now I don't know. He's played a lot as our #4ish Dman this season and at times on the top pairing and has been a revelation IMO. He's got decent offensive instincts, is big, and has a good shot. He also doesn't have much puck skill, doesn't seem to like blocking shots, and can at times overhandle the puck.

Not sure we'd get the value out of a trade that we've got from him this season. No idea really on the value. This would be selling high.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Graves seems to be working his way into the young D core of Girard/Makar/Byram. I'd be real surprised if he gets moved but everything has a price. The Avs may desperate for a middle 6 center.

 

[hughdreamz]

Hard to see Z or Graves being traded during the year this season. Over the summer is more likely.

 

[Patagonia]

I don't mind him either, but only for the right price.

Graves has been playing Top 4 minutes and has been a huge surprise. Not sure if this is sustainable or AVs risk trading him too early. His value is much lower than Zadorov. Maybe a deal for ie 2nd + 3rd

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

He's probably only worth a 2nd or 3rd, which is why the Avs should keep him and see if he keeps improving. Even if this is his best, he's been a real solid #4 for the Avs. The problem is pretty much the entire team is made up of guys of his caliber besides G being a bit better and Makar.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

The Master of Plus/Minus

Keep him Avs

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Colorado has no reason to move him unless it can get them a good forward. He’s playing top 4 minutes and is their best fit to pair with Makar. Sakic won’t toy with that for futures unless those futures will immediately be used to flip for help.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Stupid Rangers. should have traded Brady Skjei who has been awful to make room for Graves.

 

[Perratrooper]

Hard to say. Before the season I'd have said around a 4th round pick or maybe less.

Now I don't know. He's played a lot as our #4ish Dman this season and at times on the top pairing and has been a revelation IMO. He's got decent offensive instincts, is big, and has a good shot. He also doesn't have much puck skill, doesn't seem to like blocking shots, and can at times overhandle the puck.

Not sure we'd get the value out of a trade that we've got from him this season. No idea really on the value. This would be selling high.

I don’t think anyone likes blocking shots, but he is 8th in the league in total blocked shots.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

I don’t think anyone likes blocking shots, but he is 8th in the league in total blocked shots.

I did not realize that. He seems so reluctant lol

 

[Michoulicious]

Montreal should not look to acquire yet another bottom pair D... But if it is part of a package say for Tatar (1st, Graves, good prospect), it would not be horrendous.

Not sure Colorado should trade a D playing in in their top 6 while fighting for their lives through injuries.

They however desperately need help upfront with Rantanen/Kadri out.

 

[Slashers98]

Former Quebec Remparts extraordinaire!

 

[TT1]

Avs won't trade Graves, this is his 1st real season/he has a ton of upside and he's hard to play against. No brainer if they have to decide between him and Z.

 

[mariolemieux66]

That is a trade Bergevin should have made 2 years ago. I really wanted him when he was in his 3 years in the AHL. Bergevin preferred to go for a guy like Alzner. Absolutely no vision.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Stupid Rangers. should have traded Brady Skjei who has been awful to make room for Graves.

I remember how excited some people were when we acquired Chris Bigras

 

[RangersFan1994]

I remember how excited some people were when we acquired Chris Bigras

i hated that trade when it happened. awful asset management.

 

[milehigh11]

Montreal should not look to acquire yet another bottom pair D... But if it is part of a package say for Tatar (1st, Graves, good prospect), it would not be horrendous.

That would be horrible for the AVs. As we would need to fill the hole opend up by trading Graves who is Makar's defensive partner. So no thanks. Colorado will not be trading a defenseman at the TDL. That will happen during the summer. We need all of them for the playoffs as well as probably another RH one.

 

[Patagonia]

I remember how excited some people were when we acquired Chris Bigras

NYR getting Bigras seemed to be a steal, but concussion problems was the reason he was available. He never seemed to have recovered, and why it seemed to be so one sided.