RW/LW Lucas Raymond - Frolunda HC, SHL (2020, 4th, DET) Part 2

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[WingsMJN2965]

watching draft i noticed perfettis and drysdales fathers were on the short side , as in i doubt neither shall grow much taller . but when raymond was picked some thing came up about his new father as in i guess his parents got divorced , and im wondering if any of those guys in the room were raymonds biological father ?

Sounds like a mission for Maury Povich.

 

[theslatcher]

watching draft i noticed perfettis and drysdales fathers were on the short side , as in i doubt neither shall grow much taller . but when raymond was picked some thing came up about his new father as in i guess his parents got divorced , and im wondering if any of those guys in the room were raymonds biological father ?

Jean is his biological father and I don't think his parents have separated unless they did so the last year? His brother, Hugo, was the guy in all-black, btw.

 

[deca guard]

Jean is his biological father and I don't think his parents have separated unless they did so the last year? His brother, Hugo, was the guy in all-black, btw.

was jean in this draft day video

 

[theslatcher]

was jean in this draft day video

Yes, he's the guy who's right next to Lucas when they pose for a family photo. Here's a pic of the whole family from a year ago:

 

[deca guard]

Yes, he's the guy who's right next to Lucas when they pose for a family photo. Here's a pic of the whole family from a year ago:

ok thanx . so i guess that puts luke at about 6' 200lb max

 

[Our Lady Peace]

Just so excited this guy is coming to Detroit. I don't care if he's a winger. I think his potential is incredible, he simply does it all at a very high level and I can't help but see a top winger in him.

 

[Pavels Dog]

He's been pretty quiet the last few games, but every now and then flashes his potential.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Just so excited this guy is coming to Detroit. I don't care if he's a winger. I think his potential is incredible, he simply does it all at a very high level and I can't help but see a top winger in him.

I'm cautiously optimistic when it comes to Raymond because Rossi was my guy going into the 2020 draft. The kid definitely displayed top 10 talent in his D-1 but only playing 3rd/4th line minutes in his draft year is not ideal. He's getting more ice now but he really needs to work on his consistency. Some shifts he's invisible, then others he looks like he's going to impose his will on the game and do whatever he wants.

It wasn't so much talent that separates guys like Dan Alfredsson from the Gus Nyquists of the league. It's consistency from game to game. I'm hoping that Raymond becomes more like the former than the latter.

 

[Tatar Shots]

I'm cautiously optimistic when it comes to Raymond because Rossi was my guy going into the 2020 draft. The kid definitely displayed top 10 talent in his D-1 but only playing 3rd/4th line minutes in his draft year is not ideal. He's getting more ice now but he really needs to work on his consistency. Some shifts he's invisible, then others he looks like he's going to impose his will on the game and do whatever he wants.

It wasn't so much talent that separates guys like Dan Alfredsson from the Gus Nyquists of the league. It's consistency from game to game. I'm hoping that Raymond becomes more like the former than the latter.

define ‘so much’

 

[Dotter]

Seems like most of his highlight videos are 5v4.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

define ‘so much’

Nyquist is a guy that has a ton of talent but it's his effort and consistency that are what have prevented him from being a regular 60-70 point threat. One games he'd look like a world beater, then he'd be MIA the next.
Alfredsson was a guy who had a lot of talent but what made him so effective was how hard he worked.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Definitely think Raymond is a hard worker from what I've seen so far. The most encouraging thing I'm seeing is that he's not cheating in order to create offense. He's putting in the work, even if it's not glamourous. Being "invisible" while doing the little things right is not much of a concern to me, at least when talking about someone who is 18. He's only been on the ice for one goal against this season, shoots a decent amount (22 SOG in 10 games) and flashes enough skill that it's definitely evident that he's a got another gear to unlock as he develops.

 

[SwedeChristoffer]

It feels like the line he is playing on is not clicking at all, I suggested this line way before the season started but after a few looks I've gotta say it doesn't seem to be working well. Both Raymond and Mursak needs to have the puck on their stick to really create and play well.

Mursak and Hjalmarsson started out playing well together, but it feels like Mursak is trying to adjust his game to fit with Raymonds and it makes his game fall apart.

I hope the HC makes a change because it feels like the confidence in the line becomes worse and worse for each game.

 

[simonedvinsson]

It feels like the line he is playing on is not clicking at all, I suggested this line way before the season started but after a few looks I've gotta say it doesn't seem to be working well. Both Raymond and Mursak needs to have the puck on their stick to really create and play well.

Mursak and Hjalmarsson started out playing well together, but it feels like Mursak is trying to adjust his game to fit with Raymonds and it makes his game fall apart.

I hope the HC makes a change because it feels like the confidence in the line becomes worse and worse for each game.

I want to see a line of Lucas Raymond - Theodor Niederbach - Elmer Söderblom...

 

[Aahlstroem]

Better than a monkey provides some in-depth stats about Raymond (and all other SHL players) if anyone's interested in that.

Player cards for example, just search for Raymond. Better than a Monkey

 

[LarKing]

Better than a monkey provides some in-depth stats about Raymond (and all other SHL players) if anyone's interested in that.

Player cards for example, just search for Raymond. Better than a Monkey

Doesnt fully load the screen for me. Is it not meant for mobile?

 

[FlyguyOX]

Better than a monkey provides some in-depth stats about Raymond (and all other SHL players) if anyone's interested in that.

Player cards for example, just search for Raymond. Better than a Monkey

Niceee

 

[Christien]

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Seems like most of his highlight videos are 5v4.

seems like most highlights for every player in the SHL are 5v4 lol. Nothing more useless than PP highlights from that league, with that insane amount of space.

 

[montreal]

here's a long clip of the goal,

 

[VictorLustig]

seems like most highlights for every player in the SHL are 5v4 lol. Nothing more useless than PP highlights from that league, with that insane amount of space.

What do you "use" highlights for? Actually no, don't tell us.

 

[JAS 39 Gripen]

seems like most highlights for every player in the SHL are 5v4 lol. Nothing more useless than PP highlights from that league, with that insane amount of space.

This is such a dumb post....

 

[newfy]

I wonder what his ice time and team scoring levels are like compared to other guys like Pettersson at the same age

 

[Pavels Dog]

I wonder what his ice time and team scoring levels are like compared to other guys like Pettersson at the same age

Not many look good compared to Pettersson.
Raymond is younger and on a slightly worse team. but still. Pettersson was dominant d+1, Raymond is definitely not.