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[LTIR]

While I certainly expect that Draisaitl's willingness to re-sign will be impacted by the outcome of this playoffs I think an article like this one:

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/edmonton-oilers/latest-news/draisaitls-fate-hinges-on-playoff-success

Illustrates his dilemma if his goal is to "win" somewhere else. The author claims through comments by Georges Laroque in an article by Jimmy Murphy
that Draisaitl is interested in playing for the Bruins if he does not re-sign with the Oilers.

Report: Draisaitl Is Interested In Playing For The Bruins

Could Edmonton Oilers superstar center Leon Draisaitl become the future No. 1 center for the Boston Bruins? Speaking recently on BPM Sports, 91.9 FM in Montreal, former NHL enforcer Georges Laraque reported that Draisaitl is interested in playing for the Boston Bruins if he does not sign an...

bostonhockeynow.com

Here is a quote from the first article:



I will ask this. When was the last time Boston won the cup? The answer is 2011 which was years before Leon entered the league. That team had Lucic in his prime, Bergeron 25, Chara 33, Krejci 24, Horton 25, Marchand 22, Seguin 18 as well as vets like Recchi, Peverley and Ryder. In addition to Chara on the back end they had Seidenberg, Boychuk, Kaberle, McQuaid and Ference. Their goalies were Tim Thomas and Tuuka Rask.

The last time the Bruins got out of the first round was 2021. But that was a much better roster. This version of the Bruin's is a shadow of that cup team in terms of talent with their top three skaters being Pastrnak 27, McAvoy 25 and soon to be 36 year old Brad Marchand. He would be 37 in the first year of Draisaitl's new deal. They are a team that wins in the regular season on the backs of solid team play and great goaltending. They also do not have a pick in the first three rounds this year and no second the year after to go along with a very limited prospect pool.

Does Leon make the Bruin's more of a contender than the Oilers would be with he and McDavid with a $13M salary??? The Bruins would have to subtract a fair bit from their current roster to fit him in. They could probably manage it next year at $8.5M but that would most likely mean a trade and signing. If the Oilers felt like they were forced to move Leon this off season what would the ask be from Boston? Futures would not be of any interest unless the plan was to completely retool with McDavid gone as well. I'd ask for Swayman and Zacha or Carlo and Lohrei. I'd also make them take Campbell at 50% retained and have them buy him out. Would the team that was left be a cup contender??? If so would the window be more than a year or two?

Frankly for me the Bruins should be viewed more like a team that may need to rebuild in three years than a team poised to make a serious run in the future.

Bruins do have a lot of great pieces so if we were forced to trade Drai next season, BOS would be a good destination.

A combo of of Fredric, Geekie, Poitras
Swayman or even Mcavoy

 

[ManofSteel55]

If Leon's goal is to win then moving on makes nearly 0 sense. A cup is never a guarantee but not hitching a ride with McDavid definitely reduces your odds, minus joining a super team, which likely wouldn't have the cap to fit you. And it helps that they are very good friends.

Agreed. The only consideration of course, is if he feels that another team actually has a better core. Can you imagine if he chose to go play with Point, Kucherov, Vaslivsky and Hedman instead of our core? Ugh. Gross.

 

[McShogun99]

While I certainly expect that Draisaitl's willingness to re-sign will be impacted by the outcome of this playoffs I think an article like this one:

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/edmonton-oilers/latest-news/draisaitls-fate-hinges-on-playoff-success

Illustrates his dilemma if his goal is to "win" somewhere else. The author claims through comments by Georges Laroque in an article by Jimmy Murphy
that Draisaitl is interested in playing for the Bruins if he does not re-sign with the Oilers.

Report: Draisaitl Is Interested In Playing For The Bruins

Could Edmonton Oilers superstar center Leon Draisaitl become the future No. 1 center for the Boston Bruins? Speaking recently on BPM Sports, 91.9 FM in Montreal, former NHL enforcer Georges Laraque reported that Draisaitl is interested in playing for the Boston Bruins if he does not sign an...

bostonhockeynow.com

Here is a quote from the first article:



I will ask this. When was the last time Boston won the cup? The answer is 2011 which was years before Leon entered the league. That team had Lucic in his prime, Bergeron 25, Chara 33, Krejci 24, Horton 25, Marchand 22, Seguin 18 as well as vets like Recchi, Peverley and Ryder. In addition to Chara on the back end they had Seidenberg, Boychuk, Kaberle, McQuaid and Ference. Their goalies were Tim Thomas and Tuuka Rask.

The last time the Bruins got out of the first round was 2021. But that was a much better roster. This version of the Bruin's is a shadow of that cup team in terms of talent with their top three skaters being Pastrnak 27, McAvoy 25 and soon to be 36 year old Brad Marchand. He would be 37 in the first year of Draisaitl's new deal. They are a team that wins in the regular season on the backs of solid team play and great goaltending. They also do not have a pick in the first three rounds this year and no second the year after to go along with a very limited prospect pool.

Does Leon make the Bruin's more of a contender than the Oilers would be with he and McDavid with a $13M salary??? The Bruins would have to subtract a fair bit from their current roster to fit him in. They could probably manage it next year at $8.5M but that would most likely mean a trade and signing. If the Oilers felt like they were forced to move Leon this off season what would the ask be from Boston? Futures would not be of any interest unless the plan was to completely retool with McDavid gone as well. I'd ask for Swayman and Zacha or Carlo and Lohrei. I'd also make them take Campbell at 50% retained and have them buy him out. Would the team that was left be a cup contender??? If so would the window be more than a year or two?

Frankly for me the Bruins should be viewed more like a team that may need to rebuild in three years than a team poised to make a serious run in the future.

I think that's probably where he ends up if Edmonton doesn't extend him. They're in desperate need of a 1C and Pastrnak is a good friend of his but I still think he stays in Edmonton.

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

Agreed. The only consideration of course, is if he feels that another team actually has a better core. Can you imagine if he chose to go play with Point, Kucherov, Vaslivsky and Hedman instead of our core? Ugh. Gross.

Hedman is up at the same time luckily and doesn't have a ton of space as it is.

They have a 3x 9.5m contracts, 1x 8.5m 2x 6.5m and a 5.2m. Hedman is likely getting a solid raise so that is likely another 9.5m. This doesn't factor in maybe a slightly discounted Stamkos.

At the price Draisaitl may command, he doesn't have a lot of realistic options where the grass is greener.

 

[Canovin]

Do we have room for Bertuzzi next year if we don't re-sign Foegele?

Bertuzzi-McDavid-Hyman
RNH-Drai-Kane
McLeod-Henrique-Holloway

 

[Oilhawks]

While I certainly expect that Draisaitl's willingness to re-sign will be impacted by the outcome of this playoffs I think an article like this one:

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/edmonton-oilers/latest-news/draisaitls-fate-hinges-on-playoff-success

Illustrates his dilemma if his goal is to "win" somewhere else. The author claims through comments by Georges Laroque in an article by Jimmy Murphy
that Draisaitl is interested in playing for the Bruins if he does not re-sign with the Oilers.

Report: Draisaitl Is Interested In Playing For The Bruins

Could Edmonton Oilers superstar center Leon Draisaitl become the future No. 1 center for the Boston Bruins? Speaking recently on BPM Sports, 91.9 FM in Montreal, former NHL enforcer Georges Laraque reported that Draisaitl is interested in playing for the Boston Bruins if he does not sign an...

bostonhockeynow.com

Here is a quote from the first article:



I will ask this. When was the last time Boston won the cup? The answer is 2011 which was years before Leon entered the league. That team had Lucic in his prime, Bergeron 25, Chara 33, Krejci 24, Horton 25, Marchand 22, Seguin 18 as well as vets like Recchi, Peverley and Ryder. In addition to Chara on the back end they had Seidenberg, Boychuk, Kaberle, McQuaid and Ference. Their goalies were Tim Thomas and Tuuka Rask.

The last time the Bruins got out of the first round was 2021. But that was a much better roster. This version of the Bruin's is a shadow of that cup team in terms of talent with their top three skaters being Pastrnak 27, McAvoy 25 and soon to be 36 year old Brad Marchand. He would be 37 in the first year of Draisaitl's new deal. They are a team that wins in the regular season on the backs of solid team play and great goaltending. They also do not have a pick in the first three rounds this year and no second the year after to go along with a very limited prospect pool.

Does Leon make the Bruin's more of a contender than the Oilers would be with he and McDavid with a $13M salary??? The Bruins would have to subtract a fair bit from their current roster to fit him in. They could probably manage it next year at $8.5M but that would most likely mean a trade and signing. If the Oilers felt like they were forced to move Leon this off season what would the ask be from Boston? Futures would not be of any interest unless the plan was to completely retool with McDavid gone as well. I'd ask for Swayman and Zacha or Carlo and Lohrei. I'd also make them take Campbell at 50% retained and have them buy him out. Would the team that was left be a cup contender??? If so would the window be more than a year or two?

Frankly for me the Bruins should be viewed more like a team that may need to rebuild in three years than a team poised to make a serious run in the future.

100% agreed

Their vaunted “winning culture” took a hit when they choked a 3-1 lead last year, and it will again when they likely “make history” doing it again on Saturday

 

[Esko]

Why are you psychopaths discussing Draisaitl potentially not re-signing when we are neck deep in a playoff run?

Disgusting behavior.

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

I wonder if it is possible to get San Jose to bite on taking Campbell. They have a ton of space and Blackwood is their only netminder at the moment.

Campbell + Broberg + 1st for Granlund or something. I thought I remember interest in Broberg by them. Will free up his dead space and gain a rental for a run.

 

[Canovin]

I wonder if it is possible to get San Jose to bite on taking Campbell. They have a ton of space and Blackwood is their only netminder at the moment.

Campbell + Broberg + 1st for Granlund or something. I thought I remember interest in Broberg by them. Will free up his dead space and gain a rental for a run.

If we really need cap space. Just unload Ceci for a late pick and play Broberg. The Oilers most likely letting Foegele walk. That's another 2.6M

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Kane seems like the type of guy that needs a full NHL schedule to keep him focused. I'd be worried what sort of trouble he gets himself in if he was just left to his own devices for an entire year.

He has also looked pretty bad when coming off long stretches of not playing. If he had several months off before playoffs he would probably take the entire first round just to get up to speed.

Not sure about that. Kane's got a young family and has shown to use his off-season and free time for a variety of charitable endeavours. Can't run from his troubled past of bad decisions but no indication of any off-ice 'trouble' in Edmonton. Oilers' forward Evander Kane visits Kehewin and Frog Lake First Nations

Regarding the time involved to get his game back up and running, he's a player who endured a potential life threatening wrist injury which damaged fine motor ability yet rehabbed to get back on the early side of the injury recovery projection time. Showing to play through a sports hernia versus surgery option and missed time.

Evander Kane is certainly a non-conformist and earned skepticism and doubt from poor decision making as a young millionaire athlete. However, I haven't seen any substantive issues on his last chance run in Edmonton. I see lot of positives in how he conducts himself off the ice to engage with kids and communities with time and money. And putting in the work and sweat to overcome injury. Might unravel ... sure. But I disagree with innuendo about the guy. He's earned my benefit of some doubt.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Do we have room for Bertuzzi next year if we don't re-sign Foegele?

Bertuzzi-McDavid-Hyman
RNH-Drai-Kane
McLeod-Henrique-Holloway

I expect a bidding war for Bertuzzi. Not a major one, but he won't be able to be had for cheap, and that's relaly what we need. Cheap short term guys. Especially if the new GM wants to upgrade the blueline. Ceci has been good recently, but it would still be nice to have a more steady guy to put with Nurse, like Cernak or someone of that type.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Why are you psychopaths discussing Draisaitl potentially not re-signing when we are neck deep in a playoff run?

Disgusting behavior.

Save it for after the parade.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Not sure about that. Kane's got a young family and has shown to use his off-season and free time for a variety of charitable endeavours. Can't run from his troubled past of bad decisions but no indication of any off-ice 'trouble' in Edmonton. Oilers' forward Evander Kane visits Kehewin and Frog Lake First Nations

Regarding the time involved to get his game back up and running, he's a player who endured a potential life threatening wrist injury which damaged fine motor ability yet rehabbed to get back on the early side of the injury recovery projection time. Showing to play through a sports hernia versus surgery option and missed time.

Evander Kane is certainly a non-conformist and earned skepticism and doubt from poor decision making as a young millionaire athlete. However, I haven't seen any substantive issues on his last chance run in Edmonton. I see lot of positives in how he conducts himself off the ice to engage with kids and communities with time and money. And putting in the work and sweat to overcome injury. Might unravel ... sure. But I disagree with innuendo about the guy. He's earned my benefit of some doubt.

Yeah I think we need to get over Kane's past. He's shown he can make bad decisions at times, but he also seems to have shifted his focus to being a good parent and good citizen, instead of a partier and gambler. He's made mistakes as a young person. A lot of people have, they just don't have the wealth or fame to blow it up to the level that Kane did when he was making poor decisions. Lots of people change for the better once they have kids.

Why are you psychopaths discussing Draisaitl potentially not re-signing when we are neck deep in a playoff run?

Disgusting behavior.

Because we don't know who are next opponent is yet, so we can't start to collectively mock and hate them.

 

[oil Leaks]

I wonder if it is possible to get San Jose to bite on taking Campbell. They have a ton of space and Blackwood is their only netminder at the moment.

Campbell + Broberg + 1st for Granlund or something. I thought I remember interest in Broberg by them. Will free up his dead space and gain a rental for a run.

I think it will cost a lot more to move him without retention.

I think it's best to bite the bullet and buy him out. Draft picks are valuable, especially as a trade chip in the trade deadline.

 

[Joey Moss]

The way Foegele is playing in the playoffs you almost have to let him walk. Good regular season, not making an impact at all. Can’t give him a raise.

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

If we really need cap space. Just unload Ceci for a late pick and play Broberg. The Oilers most likely letting Foegele walk. That's another 2.6M

I think moving Campbell's dead space is more critical for future signings than Ceci imo. I also think you still try and move Ceci, however, Ceci isn't absolutely dead space, despite him being an absolute bottom of the barrel #4D.

May be able to move Campbell w/ the 2025 1st alone for a late pick to a team needing a goalie and needing picks (SJS).

I'm not high on Broberg at all but not opposed to trying him.

 

[McJC]

I wonder if it is possible to get San Jose to bite on taking Campbell. They have a ton of space and Blackwood is their only netminder at the moment.

Campbell + Broberg + 1st for Granlund or something. I thought I remember interest in Broberg by them. Will free up his dead space and gain a rental for a run.

I don't think Broberg isn't going anywhere... he's pretty much Kulaks replacement going into next as we're going to have to inevitably dump him for his cap... could see the 1st going with Campbell though

 

[Pavel10]

I agree that Holland's drafting is an issue. And I agree that the time to consider Broberg a bust is basically upon us. Even if he makes the team next year, he's been around long enough that he has to clear waivers next year. The liklihood of Broberg being the next stud defenseman for us is low. The odds of him being Brian Lee are pretty high (career AHL/NHL tweener).

It isn't dumb to point out Holland's drafting history - what I am suggesting is dumb is continuously pointing out "x player would have been a better pick and ranked higher". Every single team makes and uses their own rankings, its only fans and media who use the drafting rankings. Pointing out that Holland employs a scouting and draft ranking system that doesn't work is fair and 100% accurate. Pointing out that x player was ranked higher by the scouting services just glosses over the fact that Holland's scouting and draft ranking system is broken, and that the Oilers would be better off using the fan rankings I guess, ha ha.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not disagreeing with your assessment that drafting under Holland has been shite. It has. I'm just saying that we aren't talking about the real problem here when we talk about how we should have drafted x player. Especially in this case, as I don't believe Zegras would have worked well here at all. Still better than an AHL'er I guess, but if we're picking out guys who would have been better picks, there are far better options to mention than Trevor Zegras.

We're on the same page basically I use zegras as an example of an "I'm smarter than everyone else" move. They chose to pass on him when he was higher ranked and go off the board with broberg. That's the type of thing a Dallas could do given their drafting pedigree.

We suck at drafting so instead of going for a hail Mary make a safe move that makes sense. It is what it is and is done. Wright has been fired Holland won't be back. I hope Jackson can poach some actual drafting talent.

Eg Bob Green still needs to be fired.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I don't think Broberg isn't going anywhere... he's pretty much Kulaks replacement going into next as we're going to have to inevitably dump him for his cap... could see the 1st going with Campbell though

I can't see us moving Kulak to be honest. He's too valuable in the playoffs. I could see us dumping Ceci, and if we can re-sign VD, then our pairs become:
Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Desharnais
Kulak - Broberg

 

[Canovin]

I can't see us moving Kulak to be honest. He's too valuable in the playoffs. I could see us dumping Ceci, and if we can re-sign VD, then our pairs become:
Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Desharnais
Kulak - Broberg

Not a bad problem to have. Still have the 1st for the deadline to bring in a top 4Dman or top 6 winger

 

[joestevens29]

I can't see us moving Kulak to be honest. He's too valuable in the playoffs. I could see us dumping Ceci, and if we can re-sign VD, then our pairs become:
Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Desharnais
Kulak - Broberg

That's a pretty nasty pairing Nurse and Vinny. Two very strong, tough guys.

 

[Heavy Dee]

The way Foegele is playing in the playoffs you almost have to let him walk. Good regular season, not making an impact at all. Can’t give him a raise.

They won't re-sign anyone until they have certainty on Draisaitl

 

[FlameChampion]

I can't see us moving Kulak to be honest. He's too valuable in the playoffs. I could see us dumping Ceci, and if we can re-sign VD, then our pairs become:
Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Desharnais
Kulak - Broberg

Will be interesting to see what they do with the defense.

I can’t really see them moving Kulak either.

The combination you are showing is probably pretty realistic. This team isn’t going to have much cap room to do much else.

They could also move Broberg for a similar forward prospect if they want.

I do hope whatever we do, we have a bit more puck moving ability.

 

[Canovin]

Gotta think someone like Phil Kemp might be good enough for the #6D role

 

[McShogun99]

The way Foegele is playing in the playoffs you almost have to let him walk. Good regular season, not making an impact at all. Can’t give him a raise.

He's made in impact in exactly zero playoffs for us. He's as good as gone unless he wants under 2 million.