Salary Cap: Rumors, thoughts, idea's, complaints - 2015/16 season

[Riptide]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

Official 2015-16 salary ceiling: ........71,400,000
Projected 2015-16 cap spending: ....71,392,083
Cap space before using LTIR: .................7,917


PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

28​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

27​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|

RW​

|

27​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

28​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

35​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

|

UFA​

David Perron|

LW​

|

26​

|

3,812,500​

|

UFA​

Nick Bonino|

C​

|

27​

|

1,900,000​

|

1,900,000​

|

UFA​

Sergei Plotnikov|

LW​

|

25​

|

925,000​

|

RFA​

Beau Bennett|

RW​

|

23​

|

800,000​

|

RFA​

Matt Cullen|

C​

|

38​

|

800,000​

|

UFA​

Daniel Sprong|

RW​

|

18​

|

692,500​

|

692,500​

|

692,500​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

.2017-18​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

28​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

36​

|

3,375,000​

|

3,375,000​

|

UFA​

Ian Cole|

D​

|

26​

|

2,100,000​

|

2,100,000​

|

2,100,000​

Ben Lovejoy|

D​

|

31​

|

1,100,000​

|

UFA​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

20​

|

894,167​

|

RFA​

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

23​

|

800,000​

|

800,000​

|

RFA​

Adam Clendening|

D​

|

22​

|

761,250​

|

RFA​

Tim Erixon|

D​

|

24​

|

600,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie............,.......​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

.2017-18​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

30​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

Jeff Zatkoff|

G​

|

28​

|

600,000​

|

UFA​

Injured reserve.......​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

.2017-18​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

36​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

UFA​

Eric Fehr|

C​

|

29​

|

2,000,000​

|

2,000,000​

|

2,000,000​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Tyler Biggs|

RW​

|

22​

|

894,167​

|

RFA​

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

21​

|

700,833​

|

708,333​

|

RFA​

Dominik Simon|

C​

|

20​

|

692,500​

|

692,500​

|

692,500​

|

RFA​

Conor Sheary|

LW​

|

23​

|

667,500​

|

667,500​

|

RFA​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

22​

|

659,167​

|

659,167​

|

RFA​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

23​

|

655,000​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

23​

|

652,500​

|

RFA​

Matia Marcantuoni|

C​

|

21​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

|

RFA​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

21​

|

585,000​

|

585,000​

|

RFA​

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

22​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Kevin Porter|

C​

|

29​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Kael Mouillierat|

LW​

|

27​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Defense...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

21​

|

863,333​

|

863,333​

|

RFA​

Harrison Ruopp|

D​

|

22​

|

650,833​

|

RFA​

Niclas Andersen|

D​

|

27​

|

625,000​

|

UFA​

David Warsofsky|

D​

|

25​

|

600,000​

|

UFA​

Reid McNeill|

D​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Will O'Neill|

D​

|

27​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Steve Oleksy|

D​

|

29​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Goalie..................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

21​

|

620,000​

|

620,000​

|

RFA​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

20​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

WHEELING NAILERS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Anton Zlobin|

LW​

|

22​

|

608,333​

|

RFA​

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team​

|

Contract​

Daniel Sprong|

F​

|

18​

|

Charlottetown (QMJHL)​

|

3 years, $692,500 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

​

​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team (League)​

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

19​

|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

19​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Teddy Blueger|

F​

|

20​

|Minnesota State (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

20​

|Maine (HEA)

Jake Guentzel|

F​

|

20​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

21​

|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

20​

|Brown (ECAC)

Jaden Lindo|

F​

|

19​

|Owen Sound (OHL)

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

22​

|Boston University (HEA)

Nikita Pavlychev|

F​

|

18​

|Des Moines (USHL)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

25​

|Khabarovsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|

D​

|

20​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

21​

|Union (ECAC)

Frederik Tiffels|

F​

|

20​

|Western Michigan (NCHC)

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[Riptide]

Someone is going to have to update the table as that's definitely not my specialty.

 

[Riptide]

Posts from the last thread.

The "cool" guys on the team are all introverts. The old, irrelevant, "tenured" guys on the team are the ones who shout loudest, and who are praised the most by the bosses. It's a recipe for disaster in any competitive environment.

agreed. I can't imagine the level of contempt some of these young guys have for Kunitz and Scuderi in particular.

Right? Its gotta be ridiculous in that dressing room. If Geno is publicly saying that everyone is mad at each other, jeez .. its gonna get worse before it gets better.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2015/11/15/report-tyson-barrie-could-find-himself-on-trading-block/

Tyson Barrie could be on the trade block. He'd be a fantastic grab for our 2nd pair and PP. I'm not sure if we have the assets to bring him in (he put up 53 points last year), but we should be heavily in on him if he becomes available.

Basically trade them Pouliot.

It would cost more than that. But he would have to be one of the key pieces. And that's if we even have what they'd be looking for in a return.

You trade for Barrie in a heartbeat. He's a stud that's just now entering his prime, and he was often the only bright spot on the Avs last year.

Is it time to unite Crosby and Malkin??

Crosby-Malkin-Hörnqvist
Perron-Bonino-Kessel
Plotnik-Fehr-Bennet
Kunitz-Cullen-Dupuis

Very good point.
The Cooke's and the Adams's are now long gone from the game.
The ones here are just hanging on and in elevated roles cuz of the culture it's implemented.
Vet leadership is fine but when it's actively hurting your on ice product night in and night out, it's time to move on.

That's what I'd do. As great as Malkin's been defensively, I think you have to. Kessel can score without Malkin. And it allows you to play Fehr at his ideal position at 3C.

No it's time the skill/grit in the bottom six played in the top 6.
That and a full youth movement.
This team with Scuds, Dupuis and Kunitz playing regular to elevated minutes, is going no where fast.

So you put the 55% faceoff guy on the wing and keep the 40% faceoff guy in the middle?

Yeah I think Johnston needs to consider putting Malkin and Crosby together to get both of them going. If he moved Malkin to the wing for Sutter, I don't know why he'd refuse to move him to the wing for Crosby. Run with Malkin-Crosby-Hornqvist and Perron-Bonino-Kessel and see if that wakes anyone up.

No. It's time to kick Kunitz and Dupes out of the top 6 forever, reinstate Horny to the top line, and switch in Pouliot/Clendening for Scuds.

this is so simple, it is obvious they are doing the opposite on purpose... nobody is that dumb not to see it...

If Barrie really is available, we need to pursue. I just don't know what we'd trade. They really need puck moving defensemen. So this speculation kinda flies against the wind. But they strike me as a team to make a dumb reactionary trade.

Edit:
Maatta-Letang
Dumoulin-Barrie
Cole-Pouliot
Lovejoy

Drool.

I really wish we didn't have a bunch of squares in charge. I would love to sit Kunitz and like call up Sundqvist or Simon or something. DO SOMETHING. Make it interesting.

Contempt? Probably none, some eye rolls im sure.

And how do we get barrie? Lol lets be realistic. Matt hunwick has looked pretty good to me on the leafs, he could fill a top4 role, good skater, leader and wouldn't cost more than a 2nd or a 3rd to get him.

I mentioned this a few weeks ago. Hunwick is a good underrated dman.

Yah, i think hed be the perfect partner for dumo or even for DP as a good mentor.

It looks like many of us were proven right that were upset when they waived Farnham. Sure the goals aren't really expected, but he is making an impact as a 4th line role player by bringing speed, energy, tenacious forecheck, disruption, trolling, etc. Meanwhile, our team looks lifeless. We could use that spark here and there to get these guys going.

Except our 4th line is actually playing well. So farnham wouldnt improve it.

Well at least one of Fehr or Sprong should be moved up the lineup in place of Kunitz so I do think he could help. Anyway, the general point here is he is a guy that can be used in games to create a spark. It doesn't have to be every game but in a situation where you are playing 3 games in 4 nights, inserting an energy type of player like Farnham can go a long way to help pick up a tired team.

I think what he's saying, is that while he wouldn't improve our 4th line per say, he'd bring something to the table our 4th line doesn't currently bring. And after watching the last couple of games... its hard to argue with that. It's not so much that the 4th line is playing poorly (it's not), it's just that they're not really bringing much to the table other then whatever offense they can provide.

 

[SEALBound]

It would be interesting to see a poll that asks whether HFPens believe the Penguins woes are coaching/systemic or if there needs to be personnel changes. Easy to say both...but is it more on the Scudunituisjoy or Jonstocceht.

My super well thought out ingenious plan:

1. Dedicate to youth even if it means cap space.
2. Decide who you like better between Perron or Hornqvist
3. Identify some young, hungry players.
4. Decide on Pouliot and his future here.
5. Trade Perron or Horny for a Top 4 dman, like for instance Barrie.
6. Trade Pouliot for a young hungry forward to replace Perron or Horny, like Rychel.
7. Get whatever you can for Kunitz, Scuderi, and Lovejoy, put Dupuis on LTIR for the rest of his career.
8. Keep Sprong up and play him.
9. Use picks - both current and obtained ones - to get into the 1st round or get another 2nd.
10. Use the youth we have and obtain:

Perron/Horny-Crosby-Bennett
Rychel-Malkin-Kessel
Plotnikov-Bonino-Sprong
WBS-Fehr-Cullen

Maatta-Letang
Dumoulin-Barrie
Cole-Clendening/WBS

MAF
Zatkoff

Other players of interest: Boedker and Maroon.

 

[Sam Spade]

Seal, I like where you're headed but there is absolutely no way they let all that cap space go to waste.

They may waive Scud next summer, but they will not waive Kunitz AND Scud, and lets face it neither can or are willing to be traded.


I think they should see if they can swing a deal for Russell in Calgary, that guy is just what the Pens need and a UFA so maybe they don't have to overpay.

 

[cygnus47]

System has to go, powerplay "system" has to go. Conservative isn't working, we would be better off playing run and gun at this point in time. Hell, we got more chances playing under Bylsma's "get to the puck as soon as it gets into the zone and dump it out no matter what" scheme. At least that actually reduced chances against. I want high pressure, constant movement in all situations to be our system. Overload every puck battle, have the next guy closest to the puck be our guy. Make the other team make a great play and keep them concerned about us taking the puck the other way in a second. Have them thinking "better make the safe play and just throw the puck deep". This "let the other team do whatever they want but be in position to get the rebounds" thing doesn't work.

On the personnel side:
- Scuderi has to go, doesn't have NHL in him anymore.
- Dupuis needs to be played on the 3rd or 4th line, he has lost his 'Crosby playing out of his mind and scoring off Dupuis' stick' hands. He's a great PKer, a great skater and a defensive forward. He's not a top 6 player.
- We need Pou to take steps forward and Maatta to regain his magic.
- If Kunitz has any value whatsoever he needs to be traded.
- Sprong needs more ice
- Bennett needs more ice

I think that's a pretty good summary of what hf thinks.

 

[SherogoesHAM]

What about a PP of:

Horn
Kessel Bennett/Perron/Sprong
Crosby Malkin

Neither of them get the half wall. Crosby would be the best at setting up malkin for one timers and hitting one of the righties (bennett, Perron, Sprong) for a tip in.
With the Main talent up top it should force teams to spread up the ice towards them.

 

[SEALBound]

Seal, I like where you're headed but there is absolutely no way they let all that cap space go to waste.

They may waive Scud next summer, but they will not waive Kunitz AND Scud, and lets face it neither can or are willing to be traded.


I think they should see if they can swing a deal for Russell in Calgary, that guy is just what the Pens need and a UFA so maybe they don't have to overpay.

It's not that much that's going to waste to be honest, and it accounts for raises that we will soon be having. Maatta will need a raise, Bennett, Perron, etc will all need raises shortly.

 

[Riptide]

It would be interesting to see a poll that asks whether HFPens believe the Penguins woes are coaching/systemic or if there needs to be personnel changes. Easy to say both...but is it more on the Scudunituisjoy or Jonstocceht.

My super well thought out ingenious plan:

1. Dedicate to youth even if it means cap space.
2. Decide who you like better between Perron or Hornqvist
3. Identify some young, hungry players.
4. Decide on Pouliot and his future here.
5. Trade Perron or Horny for a Top 4 dman, like for instance Barrie.
6. Trade Pouliot for a young hungry forward to replace Perron or Horny, like Rychel.
7. Get whatever you can for Kunitz, Scuderi, and Lovejoy, put Dupuis on LTIR for the rest of his career.
8. Keep Sprong up and play him.
9. Use picks - both current and obtained ones - to get into the 1st round or get another 2nd.
10. Use the youth we have and obtain:

Perron/Horny-Crosby-Bennett
Rychel-Malkin-Kessel
Plotnikov-Bonino-Sprong
WBS-Fehr-Cullen

Maatta-Letang
Dumoulin-Barrie
Cole-Clendening/WBS

MAF
Zatkoff

Other players of interest: Boedker and Maroon.

Absolutely more on the coaching side. Scud's without a doubt has to go. But I think with a different coach, there's ways to minimize his impact on the ice. Reduced minutes, 7D, scratching him more often, etc. Honestly, his play hasn't been that bad (for what his skillset is). There's times when I pull out my hair, but there's also other times when he makes smart easy plays that I'd question whether someone like Clendening would. That said... we absolutely must see more of Clendening and burying Scuderi or trading him should be very high on the list of things to do. If it's the only option, I think there are ways to make it work with him, but trading him would be a much better option.

As for Lovejoy, I'm fine with him in the lineup. Him and Dumoulin overall have played very well. No he's not great (and especially not worth the cost of SD), but for his cap hit and the minutes we're playing him, he's been very serviceable. I think we could easily trade him... however I wouldn't unless we've managed to get rid of Scuderi or are bringing in someone significantly better than him.

Also as an FYI, as long as Dupuis passes his physicals, you cannot LTIR him. And you absolutely could not do it without his consent. If he can get clearance (and if not from the Pens but from other doctors), then they either have to have him on the roster (thus eating up some cap space) or they have to trade him (if they could find a taker).

Also, Dupuis isn't the issue here. Even Kunitz on the 3rd line isn't really the issue. Hasn't been great, but his cap hit aside, I haven't been pissed to see him out there. That type of role if we can get the right personal on the other wing suits him much better.

 

[billybudd]

Maatta will either be taking a low money bridge or a long-term modest money deal unless he has a monster second half. Bennett's pacing for about 8 or 10 goals and he's RFA. Even if he took them to arbitration, he's not getting much of a pay increase.

There's not really any reason for Perron to be retained at all, let alone at a salary increase. Even now that he "looks" a little better, he's still not working out for us. It would make a lot more sense to just call up Scott Wilson and let him score 1 goal every 20 games than it would to retain Perron at $5 million well into his 30s to do the same thing.

 

[The GM]

What about a PP of:

Horn
Kessel Bennett/Perron/Sprong
Crosby Malkin

Neither of them get the half wall. Crosby would be the best at setting up malkin for one timers and hitting one of the righties (bennett, Perron, Sprong) for a tip in.
With the Main talent up top it should force teams to spread up the ice towards them.

Is that you Rick?

 

[billybudd]

So if McKenzie says this about JR, that's probably from talking to him.

 

[Riptide]

It would be interesting to see a poll that asks whether HFPens believe the Penguins woes are coaching/systemic or if there needs to be personnel changes. Easy to say both...but is it more on the Scudunituisjoy or Jonstocceht.

My super well thought out ingenious plan:

1. Dedicate to youth even if it means cap space.
2. Decide who you like better between Perron or Hornqvist
3. Identify some young, hungry players.
4. Decide on Pouliot and his future here.
5. Trade Perron or Horny for a Top 4 dman, like for instance Barrie.
6. Trade Pouliot for a young hungry forward to replace Perron or Horny, like Rychel.
7. Get whatever you can for Kunitz, Scuderi, and Lovejoy, put Dupuis on LTIR for the rest of his career.
8. Keep Sprong up and play him.
9. Use picks - both current and obtained ones - to get into the 1st round or get another 2nd.

4. Too early to decide. Give him more time this year. Unless a great deal falls into our lap with a team that has more F depth and is willing to be more patient with him, just wait it out.

5. Hornqvist(+?) might fetch Barrie, but Perron wouldn't without him playing a lot better then he currently is (and more importantly actually producing) and him having an extension in place that matches what his actual production/play is.

6. I question whether you could get someone like Rychel for DP. And I question whether you should even make that trade if you could.

7. Already explained.

8. Disagree. Send him back and give Plotnikov his minutes. Unless there's going to be enough changes to constantly give Sprong 10 minutes a night (and even then I'd be leery), just send him back and let him get 18+ in juniors.

9. Would depend on the draft, who's left, who management likes and what options are out there. We have two 2nd rd picks (assuming we make the playoffs - ours and Anaheim's). While a 1st or more 2nds would be ideal I'd be just as happy with some smart drafting instead.

 

[Riptide]

Maatta will either be taking a low money bridge or a long-term modest money deal unless he has a monster second half. Bennett's pacing for about 8 or 10 goals and he's RFA. Even if he took them to arbitration, he's not getting much of a pay increase.

There's not really any reason for Perron to be retained at all, let alone at a salary increase. Even now that he "looks" a little better, he's still not working out for us. It would make a lot more sense to just call up Scott Wilson and let him score 1 goal every 20 games than it would to retain Perron at $5 million well into his 30s to do the same thing.

Agreed. I also do not think Perron will stay here if something doesn't change this season. I mean if the team is playing very well, and he produces 20+ goals and 45/50+ points (or at that pace for a decent part of the season), then him staying here would likely be more of a sure thing. Gets a slight raise due to what he brings (his ability to make plays and pull coverage) more so then his production, and everyone is happy. But as he's not doing that (currently - at least consistently) and the team is playing like crap, I just do not see it happening.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

4. Too early to decide. Give him more time this year. Unless a great deal falls into our lap with a team that has more F depth and is willing to be more patient with him, just wait it out.

Pouliot's almost at a point per game in the AHL right now (yes, it's early, and he missed a game or two). He's playing fairly well both ways. It'd be incredibly stupid to give up on him.

 

[DegenX]

It would be interesting to see a poll that asks whether HFPens believe the Penguins woes are coaching/systemic or if there needs to be personnel changes. Easy to say both...but is it more on the Scudunituisjoy or Jonstocceht.

My super well thought out ingenious plan:

1. Dedicate to youth even if it means cap space.
2. Decide who you like better between Perron or Hornqvist
3. Identify some young, hungry players.
4. Decide on Pouliot and his future here.
5. Trade Perron or Horny for a Top 4 dman, like for instance Barrie.
6. Trade Pouliot for a young hungry forward to replace Perron or Horny, like Rychel.
7. Get whatever you can for Kunitz, Scuderi, and Lovejoy, put Dupuis on LTIR for the rest of his career.
8. Keep Sprong up and play him.
9. Use picks - both current and obtained ones - to get into the 1st round or get another 2nd.
10. Use the youth we have and obtain:

Perron/Horny-Crosby-Bennett
Rychel-Malkin-Kessel
Plotnikov-Bonino-Sprong
WBS-Fehr-Cullen

Maatta-Letang
Dumoulin-Barrie
Cole-Clendening/WBS

MAF
Zatkoff

Other players of interest: Boedker and Maroon.

Regarding point 6 ... Columbus is dangling Atkinson or Rychel in order to land an established D. Pooh is not an established D.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

So if McKenzie says this about JR, that's probably from talking to him.

A trade for what, though? The only thing, personnel-wise, that would improve this club would be to bring in one or two legitimate puck moving top four defensemen. But the Pens don't have the assets to do that, and even if they did, teams aren't exactly willing to deal them.

Adding a fringe #4/5 guy at the cost of a high draft pick or good prospect would be a foolish thing to do before trying to see whether a new coaching staff (not just head coach) can turn what they already have around.

 

[Your Boy Troy]

This team would need Jamie Benn and Shea Weber to be legitimate contenders

 

[PensandCaps]

It would be interesting to see a poll that asks whether HFPens believe the Penguins woes are coaching/systemic or if there needs to be personnel changes. Easy to say both...but is it more on the Scudunituisjoy or Jonstocceht.

My super well thought out ingenious plan:

1. Dedicate to youth even if it means cap space.
2. Decide who you like better between Perron or Hornqvist
3. Identify some young, hungry players.
4. Decide on Pouliot and his future here.
5. Trade Perron or Horny for a Top 4 dman, like for instance Barrie.
6. Trade Pouliot for a young hungry forward to replace Perron or Horny, like Rychel.
7. Get whatever you can for Kunitz, Scuderi, and Lovejoy, put Dupuis on LTIR for the rest of his career.
8. Keep Sprong up and play him.
9. Use picks - both current and obtained ones - to get into the 1st round or get another 2nd.
10. Use the youth we have and obtain:

Perron/Horny-Crosby-Bennett
Rychel-Malkin-Kessel
Plotnikov-Bonino-Sprong
WBS-Fehr-Cullen

Maatta-Letang
Dumoulin-Barrie
Cole-Clendening/WBS

MAF
Zatkoff

Other players of interest: Boedker and Maroon.

wow. didnt know colorado was just giving him away, you dont actually think perron or hornqvist is worth barrie?

 

[WayneSid9987]

I mean, the coach is the one dressing Scuds every night and sending Dupuis over the boards with Sid and thinks Letang is a PP1 QB.

The question of who needs to go at this very moment is obvious.

 

[Empoleon8771]

So if McKenzie says this about JR, that's probably from talking to him.

I'd be shocked if it wasn't Perron for a D. My dream situation would be Perron and Lovejoy for a 2nd pair RD, but I'm pretty sure that would never happen.

 

[mpp9]

Yeah, if they're going for a only a decent middle pairing D, I think Perron can get you part of the way there. Pens need to get some value back for him. No way they're going to keep him, IMO.

If they're going for the blockbuster move, I don't see how it doesn't involve DP.

I think this team needs more than a Kris Russell or whatever though. They badly need someone dynamic on defense. And someone further along than DP is.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Yeah, if they're going for a only a decent middle pairing D, I think Perron can get you part of the way there. Pens need to get some value back for him. No way they're going to keep him, IMO.

If they're going for the blockbuster move, I don't see how it doesn't involve DP.

I think this team needs more than a Kris Russell or whatever though. They badly need someone dynamic on defense. And someone further along than DP is.

If JR wouldn't move Pouliot for Kessel, I doubt he'd move him for anyone. Pouliot is here to stay. If I had to guess, the young guys that would be most likely to be used as trade chips are Clendening, Jarry and Sundqvist, maybe Wilson and Sheary if someone actually thinks they have any value.

If I had to guess, I would say 2 of Jarry, Sundqvist and Clendening are gone this year.

 

[mpp9]

If JR wouldn't move Pouliot for Kessel, I doubt he'd move him for anyone. Pouliot is here to stay. If I had to guess, the young guys that would be most likely to be used as trade chips are Clendening, Jarry and Sundqvist, maybe Wilson and Sheary if someone actually thinks they have any value.

I'd move him for a D who fills the same role and is a few years further along.

 

[PensandCaps]

pens should really try to get hunwick or russel. maybe both