Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Murray = Depth D, Do We Add Depth Up Front?

[belair]

How does signing virtanen to a two year deal relate to not signing a goalie or D man

Because it's still money being committed to a player they seem worthy of the salary. Had they not seen the value in the player, they could have very easily chosen not to qualify him and it would've opened up an additional $2m+ to potentially re-sign one of their Impending UFAs.

They were minimizing their payroll because of COVID. Them paying Virtanen meant they still saw value in the player. And why wouldn't they? He was coming off of a season very similar to the one Puljujarvi just had in terms of offensive production.

 

[belair]

So. Negative value player, a literally nothing player in Virtanen and a late pick is worth more than Pulju? LOL

Based on their careers to date, an average season from each of these players is pretty damn similar. So yes, two of them and the pick would probably be better than one minus a pick.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

Based on their careers to date, an average season from each of these players is pretty damn similar. So yes, two of them and the pick would probably be better than one minus a pick.

First of all, it’s a false equivalency, because you can sign Virtanen regardless of whether you trade Foegele or Puljujarvi.

So really it comes down to whether you think the mid round pick is worth spending to gamble on Puljujarvi’s upside.

Given the fact that Pulju is younger, has better advanced stats and has only been getting better with more time in the league, as well as the fact that mid round picks don’t have a high average ROI, I would say most would rather keep him.

 

[GOilers88]

Did the Oilers actually sign Virtanen?

 

[belair]

bro if Foegele was an effective bottom sixer then we would have no issue moving him, guy is an anchor and its not like there is a long lineup for Virts signature either, the guy is getting PTO offers from two teams desperate for anything

both are no better than Archibald

The only reason for Warren Foegele's negative market value is the fact that he carries an additional year of term on his contract. This is a standstill market because the majority of teams in the league are at their cap limit or above it.

If Puljujarvi had additional term at his current salary, it would be harder to find value on a return.

 

[SnipeShowJB11]

Did the Oilers actually sign Virtanen?

No. It's people just assuming from a tweet about Friedman and then more people on twitter responding and having their lives ruined at the thought of it.

 

[soothsayer]

I've watched this guy look like a big ol' pile of kaka on the ice way too many times to be even a little enthusiastic about this move.

 

[Broberg Speed]

McLeod is turning into a strong C.

He is much better as a C than a W.

how so ???

 

[Broberg Speed]

The biggest bonus to signing a RW like Virtanen is Ryan can slide back over to center and we don't have to watch Shore play regular minutes at #4C.

Shore could play in Bakersfield. Along with Ryan, Foegele and Koekkoek. You can have an unlimited roster in the AHL.

 

[McShogun99]

What’s he supposed to mentor his teammates on? The meaning of no means no?

 

[McDNicks17]

Shore could play in Bakersfield. Along with Ryan, Foegele and Koekkoek. You can have an unlimited roster in the AHL.

I don't really care where he is as long as he isn't playing regular minutes on the Oilers haha.

 

[FanOfSadTeam]

 

[Ritchie Valens]

What’s he supposed to mentor his teammates on? The meaning of no means no?

That last sentence caught me offguard too. Regale the team with cautionary tales about his time in Russia I guess.

 

[nexttothemoon]

It'd be a crying shame if Foegele came down with long term can't-play-this-season-itis in his 1st game of the pre-season.

Would instantly fix all the issues around having to trade players and having to go with a 21 player roster to start the season.

I know one thing for certain... a team like Tampa Bay or Vegas would come up with "creative" ways of using LTIR instead of having to be forced to trade useful assets away in the immediate/short term.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Seen an off-HF boards interesting comment about Virtanen. And that comment was what if Travis Green was holding him back in his development and Woody builds his confidence back up and becomes a player.

 

[McDNicks17]

What’s he supposed to mentor his teammates on? The meaning of no means no?

He might be able to mentor some of you on how to spot a fake tweet.

 

[McAsuno]

Seen an off-HF boards interesting comment about Virtanen. And that comment was what if Travis Green was holding him back in his development and Woody builds his confidence back up and becomes a player.

Sometimes a player will blossom under a new team.
Virtanen though? That's also a question mark ASSUMING he comes here.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Barrie + Puljujarvi for Zub + Formenton... then sign Virtanen

Yay or Nay?



Kane-McD-Hyman
Formenton-Drai-Yamo
Foegele-RNH-Virtanen
Janmark-McLeod-Ryan
Shore/Holloway

or

Kane-McD-Hyman
RNH-Drai-Yamo
Formenton-McLeod-Virtanen
Janmark-Ryan-Foegele
Shore/Holloway




Nurse-Ceci
Kulak-Zub
Murray-Bouchard
Broberg

Campbell
Skinner

 

[Ritchie Valens]

He might be able to mentor some of you on how to spot a fake tweet.

I know the Friedman quote was supposedly false, was the Serevalli one phony too?

 

[Broberg Speed]

It'd be a crying shame if Foegele came down with long term can't-play-this-season-itis in his 1st game of the pre-season.

Would instantly fix all the issues around having to trade players and having to go with a 21 player roster to start the season.

I know one thing for certain... a team like Tampa Bay or Vegas would come up with "creative" ways of using LTIR instead of having to be forced to trade useful assets away in the immediate/short term.

Foegele could have helped his cause if he didn't try to carry the puck over the offensive blueline and played the dump and chase game with his great speed and big frame. Could have exposed defenses and become a fan favorite.

 

[XXIV97]

Guys all these quotes are fake. There's a thing on hockey twitter where people make up of stuff for shit and giggles.

 

[Oilhawks]

Guys all these quotes are fake. There's a thing on hockey twitter where people make up of stuff for shit and giggles.

Yup, and apparently where some post them here with malicious intentions

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Guys all these quotes are fake. There's a thing on hockey twitter where people make up of stuff for shit and giggles.

Well I guess I'm a sucker then. I don't listen to podcasts and radio shows of any type so when someone posts a tweet about something said on one of these podcasts or radio spots, I tend to believe it was said. Most times what was said was misinterpreted, not flat out made up.

 

[XXIV97]

Well I guess I'm a sucker then. I don't listen to podcasts and radio shows of any type so when someone posts a tweet about something said on one of these podcasts or radio spots, I tend to believe it was said. Most times what was said was misinterpreted, not flat out made up.

Most quotes are true, but there are select accounts that make stuff up. For example, OilersAnalytics posted this as well:


They do it since it gets them popular if they are good quotes like that one

 

[McAsuno]

Most quotes are true, but there are select accounts that make stuff up. For example, OilersAnalytics posted this as well:

I don't think anybody should that person as a source anymore.
Any time I've seen that person tweeting about moves regarding the Oilers during this off season, it ends up being wrong.
Just seems like another wanna-be insider that has no actual sources other than stealing it from actual insiders or throwing shit at the wall hoping it sticks.