Rumor: Rumors & Proposal Thread VI: Rumours starting to come fast and furious

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s7ark

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Yeah Eberle is an enigma for me. He's frustrating defensively, but he's got a great shot and excellent release. Plus, he's right handed which we don't have much of up front. There seems to be some serious chemistry between him and McDavid.

Maroon with them on that line looked really good. It's a good blend. You have a big, physical guy like Maroon who is phenomenal on the cycle game and getting to the front of the net, Maroon also has some soft hands and a nice shot. You also have 97 who is the best skater in the league and has elite vision. And then you got Ebs a right handed shot who knows how to bury his chances when he gets them.

A team needs a balance. Too big and faster team skate around them. Too small and they get pushed off the puck and can't play a cycle.

The Oilers now are more of the latter and less of the former. We could still use some more size in the top 6

yep.

and another thing to note is that the Pens will probably hoist the Cup tomorrow with one highend dman, and the rest of the dcorp average and unremarkable. Do we really need two top 4 dmen? I'm starting to think we just need one good, PMD/PP specialist (of course, one that can play at least top 4 minutes and preferably top 2). Might be best to wait until after the expansion draft to get the second good dman, if need be.

I'm a firm believer in a balanced roster.
Two of the top six being bigger, two being above average two way forwards and two to focus on scoring. The more players who can do two or three the better.

Third and fourth a bit grittier but still needing a handful of 35+ point forwards.

I like the idea of a gritty as hell defender on the bottom pairing and then a mix of offense and defense on the top 2 pairings. Biggest thing for defenders is quick decision making and getting the puck to our forwards for a quick transition rush. Catch some teams on bad changes and force odd man rushes.

I'm convinced if we did got a #1 guy like Subban (or maybe to a lesser extent Faulk or Lindholm) that we don't need to go crazy and add anyone else before seeing the fit.

Add a REAL #1 dman to this group, and watch how much better it makes Klefbom, Sekera, Fayne, Nurse etc when these guys dont have to play above their heads.

I also think their ownership jumps on a deal like that. I love it for us with our Centers going forward. McDavid, Draisaitl and Staal. I would also trade Davidson, Yak and 2017 First for Hamonic. Sign Lucic to 5.5 for 6 years. Trade our own second for Shaw, then sign for 4 years at 3 . Sign Ward for 2. Pouliot for a second and a third. Korpikoski for a 4th. This line up fits under the cap. We need to make the playoffs next year.

Lucic McDavid Eberle
Hall Draisaitl Shaw
Maroon Stall Pitlick
Hendricks Letestu Kassian
Lander


Klefbom Faulk
Sekera Hamonic
Nurse Fayne
Reinhart

Talbot
Ward

You know, it'd really scary imagining what our line-up could look like in a few years given how the cap could drop over the summer.

Can we really afford to have prospects like Nurse and Reinhart to be fighting for the #6 spot on a nightly basis? Nobody is going to complain about that top 4. It's exactly what we need if we want to make a serious push.

I think going for Shaw is going too far. We're going to have to resign Drai and McDavid soon.

Think about every other team though. Everyone's gonna have to drop a lot too. Honestly Hall and one of Eberle or RNH at 6 mil is helpful.
 

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As far as going for Shaw, the Oilers are gonna expose a good handful of players to the expansion draft. May as well make sure they have some players left.

If the Oilers have Maroon and Shaw available, a team is gonna take one. Leaves them with one left.

Also if we are getting expansion this suddenly, are we gonna see it again in a year or two? Thinking longer term with this gets interesting.

A third line with the rumors we have right now of
McGinn XXX Shaw
Who is that centre?
 

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Hall for Lindholm and their first
Draisaitl for Faulk
Eberle for Hamonic
RNH for Trouba
McDavid for Subban

But keep Yakupov.
 

s7ark

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As far as going for Shaw, the Oilers are gonna expose a good handful of players to the expansion draft. May as well make sure they have some players left.

If the Oilers have Maroon and Shaw available, a team is gonna take one. Leaves them with one left.

Also if we are getting expansion this suddenly, are we gonna see it again in a year or two? Thinking longer term with this gets interesting.

A third line with the rumors we have right now of
McGinn XXX Shaw
Who is that centre?

The McGinn rumor is a bit iffy. Just putting my 2cents in on that
 

Pointteen

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The McGinn rumor is a bit iffy. Just putting my 2cents in on that

Yeah. Brand new and not much to go off of. I'd like to see it for the right price. He's been around a few clubs. Seen a few things. Maybe he's a quiet leader type? Who knows.
 

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Someone PM'd.. was it ChaoticOrange(?) with a legit source that he'll be an Oiler in the offseason?
Thank you. That would be nice.

I remember someone posting on here a few months back that McLellan was a big fan of McGinn when he had him in San Jose.
 

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Hall-Draisaitl-Perron
Lucic-McDavid-Eberle
Maroon-Nielson-Wingels
Hendricks-Letestu-Kassian

Klefbom-Demers
Sekera-Barrie
Davidson-Nurse

Talbot
Johnson

Nuge for Barrie


Hall-RNH-Draisaitl
Maroon-McDavid-Simmonds
McGinn-Shaw-Wingels
Hendricks-Letestu-Kassian

Klefbom-Demers
Sekera-Barrie
Davidson-Nurse

Talbot
Johnson

Barrie for 4th overall
Simmonds +Lindblom for Eberle + Pouliot
 

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Signing Lucic (only if the price is right) would make our top 6 harder to play against.

Guys like Lucic and Maroon open up time and space on the cycle game and driving the net. These types of power forwards give guys like McDavid and Hall room to move and create offence.

Also, Lucic signing =/= Hall is getting traded. That was a silly proposal on the mains. After 97 and 29, Hall is the forward I would least likely trade.

Lucic would make us immediately better and also opens up room for players/draft picks to be traded for D.
 

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I believe the current rumors are
Shattenkirk may be in play. Oilers should pursue if he agrees to sign an extension when he is eligible.
Hall is going (no real traction. I pray it doesn't happen)
Blackhawks may trade Shaw for cap reasons
Stauffer says one of Hall or Nuge have a 50/50 chance of going. Eberle has a high chance of staying.
Faulk MAY be available based on Carolina's unpredictable future
McGinn is coming to Edmonton
Lucic is open to the Oilers
Barrie is going to be traded and the Oilers have the right pieces
Vatanen is probably a Ducks internal budget casualty
Some people seem to think Lindholm will be that casualty

I feel like I am missing a few that pertain to the Oilers. But I can't think of any. I think I heard ages ago that if Chia had his way he would have an entirely different D core


Where is our overlord speedyturtle?
 

Spawn

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I believe the current rumors are
Shattenkirk may be in play. Oilers should pursue if he agrees to sign an extension when he is eligible.
Hall is going (no real traction. I pray it doesn't happen)
Blackhawks may trade Shaw for cap reasons
Stauffer says one of Hall or Nuge have a 50/50 chance of going. Eberle has a high chance of staying.
Faulk MAY be available based on Carolina's unpredictable future
McGinn is coming to Edmonton
Lucic is open to the Oilers
Barrie is going to be traded and the Oilers have the right pieces
Vatanen is probably a Ducks internal budget casualty
Some people seem to think Lindholm will be that casualty

I feel like I am missing a few that pertain to the Oilers. But I can't think of any. I think I heard ages ago that if Chia had his way he would have an entirely different D core


Where is our overlord speedyturtle?

Chia and Hextall had a conference room meeting which may or may not have involved octane girls and cigars.
 

Mr Positive

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I believe the current rumors are
Shattenkirk may be in play. Oilers should pursue if he agrees to sign an extension when he is eligible.
Hall is going (no real traction. I pray it doesn't happen)
Blackhawks may trade Shaw for cap reasons
Stauffer says one of Hall or Nuge have a 50/50 chance of going. Eberle has a high chance of staying.
Faulk MAY be available based on Carolina's unpredictable future
McGinn is coming to Edmonton
Lucic is open to the Oilers
Barrie is going to be traded and the Oilers have the right pieces
Vatanen is probably a Ducks internal budget casualty
Some people seem to think Lindholm will be that casualty

I feel like I am missing a few that pertain to the Oilers. But I can't think of any. I think I heard ages ago that if Chia had his way he would have an entirely different D core


Where is our overlord speedyturtle?

Some of the Vatanen trade speculation came after the Maroon trade. There was a source that said there was almost another deal that involved Pouliot and Yakupov going to Anaheim. The return wasn't specified but Vatanen was the obvious suggestion.

edit: this is a source, although I'm not sure if this is the original one I read: http://oilersnation.com/2016/3/28/gdb-79-0-home-ice-advantage-looking-to-improve

it says that Pouliot's injury may have nixed a potential deal. Anaheim fans seem to not like the idea though.
 
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I believe the current rumors are
Shattenkirk may be in play. Oilers should pursue if he agrees to sign an extension when he is eligible.
Hall is going (no real traction. I pray it doesn't happen)
Blackhawks may trade Shaw for cap reasons
Stauffer says one of Hall or Nuge have a 50/50 chance of going. Eberle has a high chance of staying.
Faulk MAY be available based on Carolina's unpredictable future
McGinn is coming to Edmonton
Lucic is open to the Oilers
Barrie is going to be traded and the Oilers have the right pieces
Vatanen is probably a Ducks internal budget casualty
Some people seem to think Lindholm will be that casualty

I feel like I am missing a few that pertain to the Oilers. But I can't think of any. I think I heard ages ago that if Chia had his way he would have an entirely different D core


Where is our overlord speedyturtle?

he said >50% that Hall or RNH get traded, 15% chance Eberle gets traded
By the sounds of it Eberle isn't going to get the type of defencemen Chia has been calling people about.
 

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I believe the current rumors are
Shattenkirk may be in play. Oilers should pursue if he agrees to sign an extension when he is eligible.
Hall is going (no real traction. I pray it doesn't happen)
Blackhawks may trade Shaw for cap reasons
Stauffer says one of Hall or Nuge have a 50/50 chance of going. Eberle has a high chance of staying.
Faulk MAY be available based on Carolina's unpredictable future
McGinn is coming to Edmonton
Lucic is open to the Oilers
Barrie is going to be traded and the Oilers have the right pieces
Vatanen is probably a Ducks internal budget casualty
Some people seem to think Lindholm will be that casualty

I feel like I am missing a few that pertain to the Oilers. But I can't think of any. I think I heard ages ago that if Chia had his way he would have an entirely different D core


Where is our overlord speedyturtle?

Don't forget the 4th overall for 8th overall, Bogosian and Girgensons :naughty:
 

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I believe the current rumors are
Shattenkirk may be in play. Oilers should pursue if he agrees to sign an extension when he is eligible.
Hall is going (no real traction. I pray it doesn't happen)
Blackhawks may trade Shaw for cap reasons
Stauffer says one of Hall or Nuge have a 50/50 chance of going. Eberle has a high chance of staying.
Faulk MAY be available based on Carolina's unpredictable future
McGinn is coming to Edmonton
Lucic is open to the Oilers
Barrie is going to be traded and the Oilers have the right pieces
Vatanen is probably a Ducks internal budget casualty
Some people seem to think Lindholm will be that casualty


I feel like I am missing a few that pertain to the Oilers. But I can't think of any. I think I heard ages ago that if Chia had his way he would have an entirely different D core


Where is our overlord speedyturtle?

Freidman also said they may just qualify both of them.
 

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Don't forget the 4th overall for 8th overall, Bogosian and Girgensons :naughty:

Right. My favorite one so far.



Yeah. Those cigars give me no reason to expect anything. I don't see a trade happening there. Doesn't make any sense.

And as far as Eberle goes, yeah. Good point. I like the idea of that being why he won't be traded. RNH is the one I expect to move on.
 

Spawn

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Freidman also said they may just qualify both of them.

Neither Lindholm nor Vatanen would accept those qualifying offers. I imagine both would sooner player in Europe than sign their QOs. The minute the Ducks GM hints at no offer beyond their QO, both their agents will be on the phone with every GM in the league looking for an offer sheet.
 
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