Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread | Which Single Position Do You Try to Fill Via Trade?

[Faelko]

Hindsight proposal:

Keith+Foegele+1st+Barrie
For
C.Jones+Bear+Chiarot

Nurse-Bouchard
Chiarot-Bear
Russell-Ceci
Broberg
Jones

Basically had Holland not made the Keith and Bear trades and walked away from Barrie. Chiarot for 1st+Jones perhaps

We would have a better squad and 7M extra cap space.

Chiarot could technically still be acquired so with that in mind:
Nurse-Bouchard
Chiarot-Ceci
Keith-Barrie

 

[nabob]

Maybe Philly management has lost faith in Hart??
Wonder what we could package with our 1st???

 

[CycloneSweep]

Didn't Nash not want to sign here though? Or am I getting him confused with another player?

It’s waivers, he doesn’t have to sign anything

 

[Anarchism]

So what the latest prognosis on Smith?

 

[nexttothemoon]

So what the latest prognosis on Smith?

I do find it somewhat odd that really nothing is said about the injury (or injuries)... it's basically been 2 months so that's not just a minor tweak... it must be something fairly substantial.

I basically am treating any games from Smith as a bonus. He could play the rest of the season when he comes back... or he could be out again after a week... this is the issue you are going to deal with when you have a player pushing towards 40 and who is developing a history of injury issues.

 

[McDNicks17]

Why do people want to separate RNH & Leon? That's a dominant duo at 5 on 5, over the past 3 seasons Draisaitl's 5 on 5 GF% is improved 9.4% when playing with RNH compared to playing without (54.8 to 64.2) and RNH's GF% is improved by 20 % (44.19 to 64.2). We should all know who RNH is at this point he is a high end support player to elite talent & a special teams guy, you staple him to boat anchors and he'll sink at no point in his career has he been put on a dysfunctional line and single handedly fixed it.

For context Leon's GF% with Connor is 56.8 so as a duo him and RNH actually perform better together, as you would expect Drai and McDavid have a higher GF per 60, but also a higher GA per 60.

That sample is incredibly skewed by 20 games of DRY.

There's basically nothing in the numbers that indicate RNH has made Draisaitl better over the past two seasons since.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Why? Kassian is a contract dump for another 2 years, and Anderson is a 25-goal guy who can and will fight anyone in the league and is signed for another 5 years at a cap that is probably going to be lower than Pulju's after this summer.

I would think about it. Depends what puljujarvi wants to re up. Plus the dude is a fan fav

 

[McSuper]

If they want to fix the bottom six, just pair up the top players instead of cramming them onto 2 lines. Put Nuge at C, give him someone like Puljujarvi. Leave Hyman with McDavid and Yams with Draisaitl…those are their best 6 offensive players. Mix and match them as you like.

Not sure Nuge is a centre any more but it is worth a try . Foegele also played RW before .

Hyman McD Kassian
Perlini Draisatl Yamamoto . Got Perlini here as he is a shooter . He done very little on the bottom 6 . If he going to carve out a NHL career it has to be top 6
Foegele RNH Puljujarvi

A puck hound on every ....RNH gets two to help him out

Shoot Turris to the moon and bottom 3 run

Archibald Ryan McLeod . 2 C for FO . Another puck hound in Arch . Ryan and McLeod are good defensively

 

[CycloneSweep]

Not sure Nuge is a centre any more but it is worth a try . Foegele also played RW before .

Hyman McD Kassian
Perlini Draisatl Yamamoto . Got Perlini here as he is a shooter . He done very little on the bottom 6 . If he going to carve out a NHL career it has to be top 6
Foegele RNH Puljujarvi

A puck hound on every ....RNH gets two to help him out

Shoot Turris to the moon and bottom 3 run

Archibald Ryan McLeod . 2 C for FO . Another puck hound in Arch . Ryan and McLeod are good defensively

Please no. That’s incredibly cruel to saddle Draisaitl with. You give him Yamamoto who puts up less than 2 of our third liners and Perlini?

“Hey Draisaitl, you are a great player, how about we give you absolutely nothing to work with while the opposition sends what they can to shut you down”

If you wanna run 3 lines go

Hyman - McDavid - Yamamoto
McLeod - Draisaitl - Puljujarvi
Foegele - Nuge - Kassian
Benson - Shore - Sceviour

you spread out bad/lesser players to one per line and you aren’t trying to get McDavid or Drai to drag 2 corpses along each. One is more than enough

 

[backhandsauce]

Maybe Philly management has lost faith in Hart??
Wonder what we could package with our 1st???

Philly wrecks goalies. He may be shattered for ever.

 

[McSuper]

Seeing all these line ups being posted makes me miss Archibald even more .

Anyone else missing Arch ?

 

[McSuper]

Please no. That’s incredibly cruel to saddle Draisaitl with. You give him Yamamoto who puts up less than 2 of our third liners and Perlini?

“Hey Draisaitl, you are a great player, how about we give you absolutely nothing to work with while the opposition sends what they can to shut you down”

If you wanna run 3 lines go

Hyman - McDavid - Yamamoto
McLeod - Draisaitl - Puljujarvi
Foegele - Nuge - Kassian
Benson - Shore - Sceviour

you spread out bad/lesser players to one per line and you aren’t trying to get McDavid or Drai to drag 2 corpses along each. One is more than enough

You don't know how Perlini would work in the top 6 . The guy can flat out shoot . Draisaitl feeding him he may get going . Worth a shot as he doing nothing playing bottom 6 .

 

[CycloneSweep]

You don't know how Perlini would work in the top 6 . The guy can flat out shoot . Draisaitl feeding him he may get going . Worth a shot as he doing nothing playing bottom 6 .

Which is why he is on waivers.

There is more to playing than just shooting. Perlini is awful defensively as well. Putting him Perlini who can literally only shoot and Yamamoto who does absolutely nothing right now is a sure fire way to turn the 2nd line into a line that doesn’t score and just gets scored on.

I am okay with shaking up the lines but putting 2 bad players on a top 6 line is terrible

 

[nexttothemoon]

What's the next move with Perlini on waivers?

Does this mean they are going to carry 8 dmen and 13 forwards going forward?

That makes sense to me actually because every game the Oilers should be using 11 forwards and 7 dmen because they don't use their 4th line forwards enough anyway (and what they have isn't really good enough anyway).

 

[CycloneSweep]

What's the next move with Perlini on waivers?

Does this mean they are going to carry 8 dmen and 13 forwards going forward?

That makes sense to me actually because every game the Oilers should be using 11 forwards and 7 dmen because they don't use their 4th line forwards enough anyway (and what they have isn't really good enough anyway).

Probably not. Next move is sending down one of Lagesson, Niemelainen or Broberg when Koekkoek or Keith are back

 

[McDNicks17]

What's the next move with Perlini on waivers?

Does this mean they are going to carry 8 dmen and 13 forwards going forward?

That makes sense to me actually because every game the Oilers should be using 11 forwards and 7 dmen because they don't use their 4th line forwards enough anyway (and what they have isn't really good enough anyway).

They'd need to waive one more guy(please be Turris!) to run with 13 forwards since Shore is replacing Perlini.

I'd guess Lagesson goes down when a D returns and they run with 14F/7D still.

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

It’s waivers, he doesn’t have to sign anything

Yeah but he didn’t want to sign here when we drafted him and went back into draft. Do you want someone like that ? Maybe bygones are bygones. !

 

[CycloneSweep]

Yeah but he didn’t want to sign here when we drafted him and went back into draft. Do you want someone like that ? Maybe bygones are bygones. !

I want a guy who is better than the majority of our bottom 6, yes

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Probably not. Next move is sending down one of Lagesson, Niemelainen or Broberg when Koekkoek or Keith are back

Lagesson to Bako FTW!

 

[McDNicks17]

That dressing 7 D idea would be interesting.

I wouldn't mind seeing Niemelainen get the odd shift at wing to blow someone up on the forecheck.

 

[nexttothemoon]

That dressing 7 D idea would be interesting.

I wouldn't mind seeing Niemelainen get the odd shift at wing to blow someone up on the forecheck.

I'd love it actually because there's really no need to have three 7 minute forwards doing nothing on the bottom line and the 7 dmen could spread their minutes around and be used in certain situations more easily... PK... PP etc.

 

[nexttothemoon]

That dressing 7 D idea would be interesting.

I wouldn't mind seeing Niemelainen get the odd shift at wing to blow someone up on the forecheck.

I'd even run Bouchard on RW with McD occasionally. Bouchard is very smart and I think he'd get up into the play and give and go with McD with the best of them on this team.

 

[McSuper]

Which is why he is on waivers.

There is more to playing than just shooting. Perlini is awful defensively as well. Putting him Perlini who can literally only shoot and Yamamoto who does absolutely nothing right now is a sure fire way to turn the 2nd line into a line that doesn’t score and just gets scored on.

I am okay with shaking up the lines but putting 2 bad players on a top 6 line is terrible

Draisaitl is good defensively and so is Yama . As bad as you say Yama is he probably will score 15 to 20 goals while being a puck hound and good in the D zone . Fans expecting more from a 20th + over all picks need to lower their expectations .

 

[McSuper]

Which is why he is on waivers.

There is more to playing than just shooting. Perlini is awful defensively as well. Putting him Perlini who can literally only shoot and Yamamoto who does absolutely nothing right now is a sure fire way to turn the 2nd line into a line that doesn’t score and just gets scored on.

I am okay with shaking up the lines but putting 2 bad players on a top 6 line is terrible

Well he on waivers so it doesn't matter , It was either get rid of him or try him in the top 6 . No point in having him take up cap if he isn't useful and he was bad in the bottom 6 . I don't mind being wrong altho I am not totally wrong as I mention top 6 or bust

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Barrie, Kassian, samorukov, 2022 1st and 2024 1st for Burns and Hertl(both with 50% retention)