Rule clarification

[BwoyHockeyfan8]

Did Rinne just play/cover the puck in the trapezoid with no penalty? What's the exact rule.

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[tmg]

I haven't seen the play in question and don't know if it applies in this case, but a lot of people don't realize that a goalie is allowed to play the puck in the restricted zone as long as he retains skate contact with the crease. The penalty is only to be called if the goalie has left his crease.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

He absolutely did play the puck in the restricted zone, but like some other infractions it was simply missed. It happens

 

[Classicnamesup]

I was under the belief they can cover the puck in that area if it's from a save.

 

[MikeyMike01]

27.8 Restricted Area – A goalkeeper shall not play the puck outside of the designated area behind the net. This area shall be defined by lines that begin six feet (6’) from either goal post and extend diagonally to points twenty-eight feet (28’) apart at the end boards. Should the goalkeeper play the puck outside of the designated area behind the goal line, a minor penalty for delay of game shall be imposed. The determining factor shall be the position of the puck. The minor penalty will not be assessed when a goalkeeper plays the puck while maintaining skate contact with his goal crease.

Here is the rule.

 

[BwoyHockeyfan8]

Defintely out of the crease. I searched through the game day thread and they seem to agree it was a blown call. Just seemed very obvious to me he literally covered it in the trapezoid.

 

[Del Preston]

I was under the belief they can cover the puck in that area if it's from a save.

Scouting The Refs tweeted that initially but then rewatched and said it should have been a penalty.

 

[Guardian17]

The refs missed the call, it should have been a penalty.

 

[Sojourn]

I haven't seen the play in question and don't know if it applies in this case, but a lot of people don't realize that a goalie is allowed to play the puck in the restricted zone as long as he retains skate contact with the crease. The penalty is only to be called if the goalie has left his crease.

It doesn't apply. Rinne was a good 5 feet outside the paint. If not more.

It was a missed call. **** happens.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I was under the belief they can cover the puck in that area if it's from a save.

But in order to cover it he corralled it with his stick and played it to himself. Can see why the nearest ref missed it though, Rinne's body had him blocked out at the time.

 

[Classicnamesup]

But in order to cover it he corralled it with his stick and played it to himself. Can see why the nearest ref missed it though, Rinne's body had him blocked out at the time.

Gotcha, that's a whole nother issue when he plays the puck

 

[GKJ]

They missed an obvious call from the worst rule in the rule book.

 

[ThirdManIn]

They missed an obvious call from the worst rule in the rule book.

Put this rule and puck-over-the-glass delay of game in a cage and let them fight to the death.

Yeah. It was missed. Nothing changes, though.

 

[bdub24]

Definitely a missed call and a fairly obvious one. Will a thread be starting for each missed call going forward?

 

[Cherpak]

I haven't seen the play in question and don't know if it applies in this case, but a lot of people don't realize that a goalie is allowed to play the puck in the restricted zone as long as he retains skate contact with the crease. The penalty is only to be called if the goalie has left his crease.

He in no way had contact with the crease. It was a missed call.

 

[BlacknGold4life]

I wouldn't mind seeing the rule change that if you are engaged in making the save and momentum of your save carries you out of your crease you can cover the picking the trapezoid as long as you do not use an extra push off to move further out of the crease.

 

[SotasicA]

I wouldn't mind seeing the rule change that if you are engaged in making the save and momentum of your save carries you out of your crease you can cover the picking the trapezoid as long as you do not use an extra push off to move further out of the crease.

That sounds needlessly complicated.

Rinne shouldn't have been allowed to play the puck. If he can't control his rebounds, he should suffer the conseuences ans not be allowed to bend the rules.

He should have left the puck be. The Duck were robbed of a scoring chance.

 

[Legionnaire11]

As a Preds fan, we benefitted from the call. But I've always hated the trapezoid.

The league got rid of the two-line pass to increase offense, and then handcuffed the goalie's ability to gather pucks in the corner and fire them up ice to streaking skaters, or to create odd-job rushes on line changes.

 

[MadhouseOnMadison]

It's a shame we have to have threads where we question our understanding of the most simple rules just because the refs can't manage to make the easiest call in the rule book.

 

[SotasicA]

As a Preds fan, we benefitted from the call. But I've always hated the trapezoid.

The league got rid of the two-line pass to increase offense, and then handcuffed the goalie's ability to gather pucks in the corner and fire them up ice to streaking skaters, or to create odd-job rushes on line changes.

The trapezoid rule is to make dump & chase easier. Goalies used to clear the zone too quickly. I like the rule. It was damn hard to beat the trap when the team also had a good stickhandling goalie.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

As a Preds fan, we benefitted from the call. But I've always hated the trapezoid.

The league got rid of the two-line pass to increase offense, and then handcuffed the goalie's ability to gather pucks in the corner and fire them up ice to streaking skaters, or to create odd-job rushes on line changes.

A couple years ago I posted a proposal that if they're going to keep the trapezoid, they should at least remove the rule for a team on a powerplay and give the goalie free reign to stretch the ice while his team is on a man advantage.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

The second that play happened, I was like "wait, what the ****, he just touched the puck in the trapezoid". Couldn't believe that the refs missed it and none of the announcers on the broadcast I was watching noticed it. Very strange no one was conscious of it at the time. It was plain as day that Rinne touched it and you could tell he thought he was ****ed by the way he looked around right after doing it.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

A couple years ago I posted a proposal that if they're going to keep the trapezoid, they should at least remove the rule for a team on a powerplay and give the goalie free reign to stretch the ice while his team is on a man advantage.

Definitely don't think it served this purpose, but wasn't the original intention of the rule to allow for more offense from the attacking team by taking the ability for the goalie to handle the puck away?

 

[Nashvols]

A couple years ago I posted a proposal that if they're going to keep the trapezoid, they should at least remove the rule for a team on a powerplay and give the goalie free reign to stretch the ice while his team is on a man advantage.

How about this:

The goalie can't play the puck in the trapezoid if he is the first player to touch the puck in the zone.

Meaning, he could not stop the puck behind the net, and then skate into the trapezoid. He can't chase the puck into the trapezoid if he mishandles it behind the net. He can, however, play the puck in the trapezoid if another player (for either team) has already played the puck in the zone.

I mean, if the goal is to allow dump and chase, why have a trapezoid at all? Just say the goalie can't play the puck behind the goal line.

 

[Sojourn]

How about this:

The goalie can't play the puck in the trapezoid if he is the first player to touch the puck in the zone.

Meaning, he could not stop the puck behind the net, and then skate into the trapezoid. He can't chase the puck into the trapezoid if he mishandles it behind the net. He can, however, play the puck in the trapezoid if another player (for either team) has already played the puck in the zone.

I mean, if the goal is to allow dump and chase, why have a trapezoid at all? Just say the goalie can't play the puck behind the goal line.

I don't think the league would want to stop the goaltender from stopping the rims around the board, and pulling it away for their defensemen to handle easily. We see that play all the time, so it's easy to miss the impact, but that's a pretty important play.