Prospect Info: Round 3, 87th overall: Egor Zavragin, G, Mamonty Yugry (MHL)

[Pantokrator]

If Appleyard is on board, Im for it.

 

[Appleyard]

If Appleyard is on board, Im for it.

Him and Clara were really the two goalies who I personally would have looked at closest if I were GM...

though I would not have spent a 2nd on Clara... thought he might fall to 4th! Zavragin I imagined would go in 3rd or so, but tbh would not have picked at the time even though I liked his game as I think better fwd and d were there.

That being said I think with a 3rd rounder Zavragin is a solid-good value pick.

Buuut in an ideal world I would not have drafted a goalie until the 4th. But there was a crazy run on them and not many of the best ones were there after Zavragin. Tbh the clear top 7 goalies in a good draft for goalies... Zavragin was the last one left. (I think Bjarnason and Zavragin are both top 4-5 goalies in this draft)

And the only 1st time eligible goalies drafted later who I think have a "solid" chance of being NHLers one day are Volokhin and Khazheyev. (some of the overagers have for sure back-up potential but yeh.)

Fell weirdly for goalies. Usually I would be a "unless there is a guy who is clearly a potential starter like Hart" dont draft a goalie until the 4th.

But there was a crazy run and 7 went by pick 90... and 26 were drafted overall! Post-lockout only 2018 has had more goalies picked.

 

[scumpup]

Load up on skilled Dmen and Centers next year. BPA of course but if multiple in a tier just take the D or C please... C's can play wing.

How many Goalies can a team realistically keep? Feel like one of the two from this year will hit since they're both solid, then we have Ersson Kolosov Hart and even Fedotov. Who will be here in 3 years?

This kid if he hits will probably be #3/4 when our window starts to open. 5 years to build a team before it starts to get harder. gotta pay gauthier and michkov, gotta pay 2024 R1, gotta deal with couturier's salary, need to overpay a free agent #1 Dman potentially.

I understand the double goalie pick. Gotta keep the shelves stocked.

 

[Appleyard]

 

[deadhead]

Goalies are like starting pitchers in baseball, got to figure half will flame out.

 

[Caser]

While the teams are in the same city, also the road trips should be considered and the VHL team was on one recently, therefore they needed to take 3 goalies and couldn't sent him back for the game practice. It still doesn't make things better, as Yugra has two experienced goalies on the roster and have no reason to go with Zavragin unless some injuries happen.

 

[Appleyard]

While the teams are in the same city, also the road trips should be considered and the VHL team was on one recently, therefore they needed to take 3 goalies and couldn't sent him back for the game practice. It still doesn't make things better, as Yugra has two experienced goalies on the roster and have no reason to go with Zavragin unless some injuries happen.

Yeh, but like... why not play him today, both teams at home now!

Unless he is slated to start in the VHL tomorrow, which seems unlikely.

 

[Caser]

Yeh, but like... why not play him today, both teams at home now!

Unless he is slated to start in the VHL tomorrow, which seems unlikely.

He was the backup last game, so possibly one of these two goalies is injured now and they will need him with the VHL team. But yes, should be more clear tomorrow, as also the MHL team will play at home.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Yeh, but like... why not play him today, both teams at home now!

Unless he is slated to start in the VHL tomorrow, which seems unlikely.

this is junior hockey, no matter what country it is pretty much all the same. Give it a month to see how things shake out.

 

[Appleyard]

 

[deadhead]

He just turned 18 in August, if it takes him two seasons to work his way into a KHL job he's still ahead of schedule.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Goalies are like starting pitchers in baseball, got to figure half will flame out.

Probably more like 80% flame out, and from the remaining 20% you're hoping to get backups and starters. It's more like QBs if you ignore the positions are polar opposites in philosophy. Demanding position.

 

[Caser]

So since the last discussion he has started in the MHL (saved 26 out of 27), two days later got the start in the VHL (25 out of 26) and another two days later - today - in the MHL again (38 out of 40, also saved 7 out of 8 in SO and added an assist).

 

[Appleyard]

 

[Caser]

Stopped 24 shots to get his first VHL shutout win.

 

[mr4tno]

He is doing a lot better than the other goalie they drafted in the 2nd. Why did they give up draft capital to move up in the 2nd to draft him? Serious question because I can't see it in the stats.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

He is doing a lot better than the other goalie they drafted in the 2nd. Why did they give up draft capital to move up in the 2nd to draft him? Serious question because I can't see it in the stats.

Goalies usually take longer to develop than skaters.

 

[deadhead]

Goalies usually take longer to develop than skaters.

Look at league leaders in the KHL or SHL, rarely do you see a goalie under 22 years old.
That's what makes Kolosov's performance the last two years special.

 

[Appleyard]

 

[Appleyard]

 

[Appleyard]

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

Is VHL like the AHL or is it more like juniors?

 

[FLYguy3911]

Is VHL like the AHL or is it more like juniors?

AHL. It's not a great league overall but it's a good level for a D+1 goalie.

 

[Appleyard]

 

[Appleyard]