Salary Cap: Roster-building Thread XXVII: Trade Deadline, I... Am Your Father.

[StaalForOne]

Out of curiosity what pairing did letang play in the 09 playoffs? 3rd right? His defensive acumen isn't held as spectacular even today, so doubt he was much better at it back then compared to where pouliot is now.

Don't really care who plays, pouliot or harrington, as neither will be the key difference in them losing a series or not.

IIRC

Gonchar Orpik
Gill Scuderi
Letang Eaton
One of Boucher/Sydor.

 

[penguins2946*]

Out of curiosity what pairing did letang play in the 09 playoffs? 3rd right? His defensive acumen isn't held as spectacular even today, so doubt he was much better at it back then compared to where pouliot is now.

Don't really care who plays, pouliot or harrington, as neither will be the key difference in them losing a series or not.

Letang played with Eaton on the bottom pair in both the 2008 playoffs and 2009 playoffs. He was never eaten alive in the playoffs, and he was a huge difference maker in 2009.

If DP can help turn around this almost historically bad PP, he has a very good chance of staying up and being in the lineup come playoff time. That's his in. Make yourself irreplaceable in an area of great need.

He kinda already is irreplaceable with no additions and Despres in the top-4. We have no one that's a better fit for Scuderi on the bottom pair than Pouliot. Just give them light ES minutes, use Scuderi on the PK and Pouliot on the PP and run the **** out of the top-4.

 

[Son Goku]

Letang is a playoff warrior IMO. i remember that sick goal he scored in OT.

 

[roquay]

If Pouliot were put on the bottom pair - which he shouldn't be for multiple reasons - any good coach in the NHL will completely obliterate that advantage we give them.

That coach can also watch Pouliot bringing the puck up the making tape to tape passes to Crosby and Malkin.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Letang played with Eaton on the bottom pair in both the 2008 playoffs and 2009 playoffs. He was never eaten alive in the playoffs, and he was a huge difference maker in 2009.

He kinda already is irreplaceable with no additions and Despres in the top-4. We have no one that's a better fit for Scuderi on the bottom pair than Pouliot. Just give them light ES minutes, use Scuderi on the PK and Pouliot on the PP and run the **** out of the top-4.

Ya, Letang was pretty raw his rookie year, going into his first playoffs in '08. Some people are forgetting how raw he was, I think. DP is making a lot of sound decisions and keeping it simple. He's doing everything you could ask for at this point.

He will have a big test tonight, and if he does well, they really need to start thinking about finding that vet 7th blueliner that could step in only if DP struggles come playoff time.

DP has done nothing so far to suggest his coach can't have confidence in him to play smart hockey moving fwd. Again, this is a kid that is used to playing in high pressure situations.

 

[Nibbler]

Sabres fan here. I have a ridiculous idea for you guys.

Sorry if it's already been brought up.

How would you guys feel about trading Sid for the 1st overall, and Malkin for the 2nd overall and starting over? I'm not saying you should do it, I just think it would be interesting to talk about.

On one hand... You pick up arguably 2 generational players again and start your cup runs over. You guys probably have about 7-8 more years of Crosby/Malkin before they start to decline. This could double that 7-8 year window!

On the other hand, it seems absolutely insane to trade those 2 players, and it's a huge gamble.

What do you guys think??

 

[MrBurghundy]

Sabres fan here. I have a ridiculous idea for you guys.

Sorry if it's already been brought up.

How would you guys feel about trading Sid for the 1st overall, and Malkin for the 2nd overall and starting over? I'm not saying you should do it, I just think it would be interesting to talk about.

On one hand... You pick up arguably 2 generational players again and start your cups runs over. You guys probably have about 7-8 more years of Crosby/Malkin before they start to decline. This could double that 7-8 year window!

On the other hand, it seems absolutely insane to trade those 2 players, and it's a huge gamble.

What do you guys think??

I think you're high on crack.

 

[Dick Sledge]

No. It's more than just age and contracts with Sid and Geno. They are the Pittsburgh Penguins.

I would never even consider it for a second.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Sabres fan here. I have a ridiculous idea for you guys.

Sorry if it's already been brought up.

How would you guys feel about trading Sid for the 1st overall, and Malkin for the 2nd overall and starting over? I'm not saying you should do it, I just think it would be interesting to talk about.

On one hand... You pick up arguably 2 generational players again and start your cup runs over. You guys probably have about 7-8 more years of Crosby/Malkin before they start to decline. This could double that 7-8 year window!

On the other hand, it seems absolutely insane to trade those 2 players, and it's a huge gamble.

What do you guys think??

MacKinnon was suppose to be the next Crosby, now he is struggling to break double digits in goals.

I'll go with the known generational talents in their prime.

 

[Nei1ey*]

Sabres fan here. I have a ridiculous idea for you guys.

Sorry if it's already been brought up.

How would you guys feel about trading Sid for the 1st overall, and Malkin for the 2nd overall and starting over? I'm not saying you should do it, I just think it would be interesting to talk about.

On one hand... You pick up arguably 2 generational players again and start your cup runs over. You guys probably have about 7-8 more years of Crosby/Malkin before they start to decline. This could double that 7-8 year window!

On the other hand, it seems absolutely insane to trade those 2 players, and it's a huge gamble.

What do you guys think??

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[Rocket of Russia]

Sabres fan here. I have a ridiculous idea for you guys.

Sorry if it's already been brought up.

How would you guys feel about trading Sid for the 1st overall, and Malkin for the 2nd overall and starting over? I'm not saying you should do it, I just think it would be interesting to talk about.

On one hand... You pick up arguably 2 generational players again and start your cup runs over. You guys probably have about 7-8 more years of Crosby/Malkin before they start to decline. This could double that 7-8 year window!

On the other hand, it seems absolutely insane to trade those 2 players, and it's a huge gamble.

What do you guys think??

That you even thought this was remotely close to fair value....that you thought it was so fair you'd post it on the Pens board....my man (or woman), you're so far out to lunch that there's not going to be any reasonable responses for you. I can't imagine you should have expected otherwise.

 

[Nibbler]

That you even thought this was remotely close to fair value....that you thought it was so fair you'd post it on the Pens board....my man (or woman), you're so far out to lunch that there's not going to be any reasonable responses for you. I can't imagine you should have expected otherwise.

Yikes I didn't say those would be the final deals, I'm sure more would be added to make it fair. I was just wondering what Pittsburgh fans would think about trading 2 older "generational" players for for 2 younger potentially "generational" players.

No need for the flaming, I was just bringing it up to see if I could spark a good debate.

 

[bigG]

Sabres fan here. I have a ridiculous idea for you guys.

Sorry if it's already been brought up.

How would you guys feel about trading Sid for the 1st overall, and Malkin for the 2nd overall and starting over? I'm not saying you should do it, I just think it would be interesting to talk about.

On one hand... You pick up arguably 2 generational players again and start your cup runs over. You guys probably have about 7-8 more years of Crosby/Malkin before they start to decline. This could double that 7-8 year window!

On the other hand, it seems absolutely insane to trade those 2 players, and it's a huge gamble.

What do you guys think??

i'm on board with trading one of crosby or malkin for McDavid

 

[Shady Machine]

Yikes I didn't say those would be the final deals, I'm sure more would be added to make it fair. I was just wondering what Pittsburgh fans would think about trading 2 older "generational" players for for 2 younger potentially "generational" players.

No need for the flaming, I was just bringing it up to see if I could spark a good debate.

Why would you think it would be a good debate though? Our team is built to compete now, not rebuild. Let me put it to you this way, if you had Crosby and Malkin on the Sabres roster and they were consistently near the top of the division, would you trade both of them for the 1st and 2nd overall?

As for a "fair" trade, it would have to be something like 1st overall + Taylor Hall (if the Oilers got 1st overall) + or 1st overall + Kane + Bogosian or something like that.

So basically, the trade would have to be one the other team wouldn't do.

 

[Winger for Hire]

Yikes I didn't say those would be the final deals, I'm sure more would be added to make it fair. I was just wondering what Pittsburgh fans would think about trading 2 older "generational" players for for 2 younger potentially "generational" players.

No need for the flaming, I was just bringing it up to see if I could spark a good debate.

When it comes to generational talents... I think most of us are going to go with the known quality. Even if they "only" have 8-10 great to above average years left. That's enough time for a dozen more generational talents to come along.

For every Sid and Geno that come along, there's a dozen Daigles, Stefans and DiPietros.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Letang played with Eaton on the bottom pair in both the 2008 playoffs and 2009 playoffs. He was never eaten alive in the playoffs, and he was a huge difference maker in 2009.

In the 2008 finals he got benched.

 

[Pens1566]

In the 2008 finals he got benched.

He was scratched after Bourdon died. I don't recall it having anything to do with his play.

 

[cheesedanish87]

Sabres fan here. I have a ridiculous idea for you guys.

Sorry if it's already been brought up.

How would you guys feel about trading Sid for the 1st overall, and Malkin for the 2nd overall and starting over? I'm not saying you should do it, I just think it would be interesting to talk about.

On one hand... You pick up arguably 2 generational players again and start your cup runs over. You guys probably have about 7-8 more years of Crosby/Malkin before they start to decline. This could double that 7-8 year window!

On the other hand, it seems absolutely insane to trade those 2 players, and it's a huge gamble.

What do you guys think??

If you knew for sure Mcdavid would be a generational talent then yeah you would trade one of them for Mcdavid, a 18 year old generational talent is worth a lot more then a 27 year old generational talent.


I don't think it would be a good trade for Buffalo either to be honest, time you guys are ready compete for a cup Sid and Geno will be in there thirties.

 

[Riptide]

New thread is up.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=97434203#post97434203