Rosen/Borgman injury update anyone

[jrgtml67]

Curious if anyone knew if either will be back soon. Dying to see Maricin sent down in favor of one of them. Thought I read Rosen was close?

Also I know you don't wanna rush guys but Sandin deserves the call over Marincin.

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[hamzarocks]

Hopefully our ahl depth is soon healed so we can call up Rosen and maybe borgman. Also we should have a injury thread which is stickied so we know the situations on our players. Dies anyone have a update on kadri?

 

[TheScandal89]

Last I heard they were skating with the Marlies, but they did not play last not.

Borgman is recovering from a concussion and rosen is from an injured foot.

 

[wc17]

Marlies’ best are ready to answer the Maple Leafs’ call | The Star

On Rosen:

“It’s bad timing for him, It’s bad timing for the organization,” Keefe said. “He’s doing all he can to get better. It’s not something that’s going to be days, it’s going to be weeks”

 

[613Leafer]

Timing for this sucks. Would have been a great chance to see Rosen in the NHL for a solid ~10 game stretch while Dermott's out. Would have given us a much better understanding of what we might be able to expect out of him next year.

Borgman I think is gone in the offseason, so not as big a deal.

 

[SprDaVE]

People don't seem to understand Borgman isn't really that good, especially not compared to Marincin. He'd be a downgrade on Marincin quite a bit.

Rosen should be back fairly soon.

 

[qqaz]

People don't seem to understand Borgman isn't really that good, especially not compared to Marincin. He'd be a downgrade on Marincin quite a bit.

Rosen should be back fairly soon.

I wish this wasn't true, but it is. It's hard to accept because Marincin is barely NHL quality (if at all). So people want another option, and would happily take Borgman. But the truth is Marincin is the better choice.

I wish we could have gone the rest of the season and playoffs without having to see any of Rosen/Borgman/Marincin/Holl. But here we are.

 

[BlueForever75]

People don't seem to understand Borgman isn't really that good, especially not compared to Marincin. He'd be a downgrade on Marincin quite a bit.

Rosen should be back fairly soon.

Borgman is a downgrade on Marincin!!!!

Are we being serious here. Borgman although not perfect, I would not say he's a downgrade. I still don't get why they sent him down last season when he played the majority of games like he did to start. He was getting his feet wet in a new league. He's one of the few dmen we have that can throw his weight around and is effective at it.

With the right partner he can be much better then Marincin. Sorry I don't agree.

 

[SprDaVE]

I wish this wasn't true, but it is. It's hard to accept because Marincin is barely NHL quality (if at all). So people want another option, and would happily take Borgman. But the truth is Marincin is the better choice.

I wish we could have gone the rest of the season and playoffs without having to see any of Rosen/Borgman/Marincin/Holl. But here we are.

Borgman is a downgrade on Marincin!!!!

Are we being serious here. Borgman although not perfect, I would not say he's a downgrade. I still don't get why they sent him down last season when he played the majority of games like he did to start. He was getting his feet wet in a new league. He's one of the few dmen we have that can throw his weight around and is effective at it.

With the right partner he can be much better then Marincin. Sorry I don't agree.

Completely disagree. And yes I'm 100% serious. Borgman isn't very good and a downgrade on Marincin.

 

[BlueForever75]

Completely disagree. And yes I'm 100% serious. Borgman isn't very good and a downgrade on Marincin.

Based on what? Marincin skates better? No. Hits better? No. Offensively gifted? No. So what exactly is he better at? His height and reach!!! That's probably the only thing.

 

[SprDaVE]

Based on what? Marincin skates better? No. Hits better? No. Offensively gifted? No. So what exactly is he better at? His height and reach!!! That's probably the only thing.

Marincin is basically better at defending and isn't always out of position. Borgman is slightly faster but isn't much better at anything else.

Neither are very good though so I'm not sure why you're up in arms.

 

[Warden of the North]

Is there a Marlies beat writer on twitter?

There used to be one, but hes doing jr hockey now

 

[BlueForever75]

Marincin is basically better at defending and isn't always out of position. Borgman is slightly faster but isn't much better at anything else.

Neither are very good though so I'm not sure why you're up in arms.

I just find Marincin has no lateral movement. Gets beat way too much especially if his reach is a non-factor. Borgman at least has the speed to make up for his defensive deficiencies. And I like the fear that Borgman puts into the opposition with his hits. Marincin doesn't do that for me.

 

[justafan22]

I just find Marincin has no lateral movement. Gets beat way too much especially if his reach is a non-factor. Borgman at least has the speed to make up for his defensive deficiencies. And I like the fear that Borgman puts into the opposition with his hits. Marincin doesn't do that for me.

Borgman can't prevent zone entries like Marincin can.

Marincin is a literal black hole offensively but he at least provides value on the back end.

Borgman is going to be in europe in 2 years.

 

[BlueForever75]

Borgman can't prevent zone entries like Marincin can.

Marincin is a literal black hole offensively but he at least provides value on the back end.

Borgman is going to be in europe in 2 years.

Funny you say Marincin prevents zone entries better then Borgman. I just don't see it. I see him beat along the boards consistently. Where if I remember correctly, Borgman always rubs the entry player out coming in along the boards.

Marincin is way too slow. Hal Gill part 2.

 

[LeafsLegendAkiBerg]

Borgman has been battling a concussion since mid December. I don't think he's coming back anytime soon.

 

[ULF_55]

Good thing no one picked Marincin off waivers?

Actually, I don't mind Marincin, he plays better than his criticism, whereas I find some Leafs play worse than their compliments.

 

[Warden of the North]

Borgman can't prevent zone entries like Marincin can.

Marincin is a literal black hole offensively but he at least provides value on the back end.

Borgman is going to be in europe in 2 years.

Marincin provides no value in the NHL anywhere

 

[stickty111]

Borgman is terrible. Marincin is easily the better player.

 

[Sergei Berezin]

Judging purely on the games played at the NHL level, I think Borgman visually brought more to the table, but the net effect of the two players is similar.

I do, however, feel Borgman has plenty of room to grow, whereas MM has been given opportunity after opportunity at the NHL level. Some guys just can't make the jump. I was mildly impressed by Borgman when he first came. Can't say the same for MM at any point. NOTE: not an MM hater, by any stretch of the imagination... just feel that he is what he is at this point (#7/8 D)

 

[LeafalCrusader]

Doubt Borgman's a Leaf next year or even an upgrade on Marincin. Get well soon though Rosen.

 

[member 300185]

Borgman is a downgrade on Marincin!!!!

Are we being serious here. Borgman although not perfect, I would not say he's a downgrade. I still don't get why they sent him down last season when he played the majority of games like he did to start. He was getting his feet wet in a new league. He's one of the few dmen we have that can throw his weight around and is effective at it.

With the right partner he can be much better then Marincin. Sorry I don't agree.

Are you sure you are not thinking of Holl? Borgman is in fact, a big downgrade from Marincin. I have yet to miss a marlies game.

 

[Tit]

So, Rosen signed a 1-way contract did he not?

Reilly
Muzzin
Dermott

Is he getting the holl treatment next year, or is someone playing their off side?

 

[member 300185]

Borgman is terrible. Marincin is easily the better player.

Exactly this. ^

 

[OVO16]

Do we seriously not have anyone else other better than Marincin that's a LD?

Marincin is hot garbage. Leafs should've picked up a depth defenseman at the trade deadline for cheap