Robert Reichel

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Does anyone know more about this guy?

Kind of weird how he developed into one of CGY's leading scorers in the early-mid 90s as a 20ish year old, only to eventually divide his career between the NHL and the Czech league.

On top of that, he actually, inexplicably, at least on the surface, played in the DEL in 95-96, after a seemingly decent season in CGY, and then came back to the NHL in 96-97.

Seems like he left some potential/promise on the table.

After all, those CGY teams had guys like Fleury, Nieuwendyk and Gilmour on them, and Reichel scored at their pace or better at a very young age, albeit for 2 seasons only.
 

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Yeah, he had a great two year peak. He was still quite productive with the Isles playing with Palffy. I don't remember know why he left the NHL.

As a Leaf, he was all right. He had a pretty good first season, putting up 51 points, but then he only scored three points in the playoffs.

He was a good playmaker and had above average hockey sense but was kind of soft and didn't really fit it on a team that had guys like Tucker, Domi, Roberts and Corson.

The fans hated on him hard after he took a slapshot on a penalty shot in the playoffs against the Flyers.
 

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Yeah, he had a great two year peak. He was still quite productive with the Isles playing with Palffy. I don't remember know why he left the NHL.

As a Leaf, he was all right. He had a pretty good first season, putting up 51 points, but then he only scored three points in the playoffs.

He was a good playmaker and had above average hockey sense but was kind of soft and didn't really fit it on a team that had guys like Tucker, Domi, Roberts and Corson.

The fans hated on him hard after he took a slapshot on a penalty shot in the playoffs against the Flyers.

It also seemed like Quinn didn't think much of Renberg either.
 

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Yeah, he had a great two year peak. He was still quite productive with the Isles playing with Palffy. I don't remember know why he left the NHL.

As a Leaf, he was all right. He had a pretty good first season, putting up 51 points, but then he only scored three points in the playoffs.

He was a good playmaker and had above average hockey sense but was kind of soft and didn't really fit it on a team that had guys like Tucker, Domi, Roberts and Corson.

The fans hated on him hard after he took a slapshot on a penalty shot in the playoffs against the Flyers.

He left twice due to contract dispute.
 

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It also seemed like Quinn didn't think much of Renberg either.

Well, Renberg just sucked.... as a Leaf. Rechel wasn't bad per se... at least during the regular season. He just didn't fit in all that well.

As for Renberg: Earlier in his career, he was a grinder, but he had speed and decent skills and hands.

Then he suffered a number of injuries that made him slower and his scoring touch eroded over time as well.

When he was with TOR, he and the star that once scored 29 goals played with Sundin quite often for some reason.

They both ****** away many more chances than first liners should fail to convert on.
 

Johnny Engine

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Well, Renberg just sucked.... as a Leaf. Rechel wasn't bad per se... at least during the regular season. He just didn't fit in all that well.

As for Renberg: Earlier in his career, he was a grinder, but he had speed and decent skills and hands.

Then he suffered a number of injuries that made him slower and his scoring touch eroded over time as well.

When he was with TOR, he and the star that once scored 29 goals played with Sundin quite often for some reason.

They both ****** away many more chances than first liners should fail to convert on.

You may have missed a joke there - I figured a poster with a name like yours might appreciate a reference to Quinn's fondness for Renberg, er... Reichel, whatever his name was... :laugh:
 

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The only think I really remember from him is McLean made a big pad saves in double ot in 1994 game 7. Biggesr save in Canucks History.
 

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Reichel is definitely in the "left some potential on the table" category.

does anybody remember reichel as a prospect? at least the 1990 WJC? the '91 WJC was the first one i really followed.

but reichel, holik, and jagr were a line. reichel was named top forward of that tournament, over bure and jagr (and a very young lindros). he led the tournament with 21 points (still the fourth highest point total of all time, at the time second behind raimo helminen). jagr finished second with 18, the immortal dave chyzowski was third with only 13, holik was tied for fourth with 11.

reichel was drafted in the fourth round of the 1989 draft. jagr, who was eight months younger, was drafted 5th overall in 1990. holik went 10th overall in 1989; he was seven months older than reichel. obviously reichel is 5'10 and there is a big size disparity between the three players, but how on talent good was teenage reichel?

he had 8 goals in 7 games in the '89 WJC, and 11 points in 7 games (tied for 5th in tournament scoring as a 16 year old) in the '88 WJC. he was the second czech player taken in the '89 draft, eight spots before josef beranek, who was almost two years older. if he was canadian instead of czech, how high would he have gone in the draft?
 

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You should know, he score 49 goals in 52 games as a 19 years old guy in Top Czechoslovak league. That times this league was maybe the 3th best in the world (after NHL and Soviets). So he was something special.
 

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Reichel was a prodigy. At the sweet age of 17, he scored 48 points in 44 games in the senior Czechoslovakian hockey league. For those who smirk, that league was bursting with talent at the time.

At the age of 18, Reichel already led the senior league in points (83) and goals (49 in 52 games), mere six points short of the record set by Milan Novy in 1977.

That was and still is unheard of. For comparison, that same year, Jagr, who by then had finally come into his own, scored 60 points in 51 games. It doesn't take a genius to realize that Reichel was at the time considered the biggest talent in the history of Czechoslovakian hockey and most definitely the most talented guy on the Holik-Reichel-Jagr line.

Whatever led to his production dropping, it's unknown to me.

He had some German ancestors and acquired a German passport, thus his connection to Germany was pretty strong. He originally played for Frankfurt during the first lockout, thus returning there during the contract holdout was a no-brainer.

Hope I have answered at least some of the questions.
 

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I don't think he cared about the NHL as passionately as many others. A Czech hockey writer who knows him well once said that for Reichel, the NHL was never the ultimate challenge. AS TDMM says, he didn't seem to enjoy physical game. A cerebral center with a good shot who knew how to use his linemates. A bit undersized for the 1990's game and not a great skater either.

Once I read an interview where the journalist asked Reichel how is it possible that Jágr's NHL career was considerably more successful than his own even though he was probably a better player at 18. Reichel's answer was that the Pens pegged Jágr as a future superstar from Day One and were doing everything possible to help him realize his potential, while the Flames were treating Reichel far colder. I don't know enough about this.

He was one of the best national team captains we've ever had. He loved international hockey where he could play his brand of game with a lot of passing and all the subtilities of big ice game. Obviously he also loved the Czech locker room where he could enjoy time with many of his childhood buddies.

This is a class picture from 1985 when Reichel was in Grade 8. Reichel is sitting third from the right. Jiří Šlégr is in the upper row, first from the left. Robert Lang in the upper row, fifth from the left. Martin Ručínský in the middle row, second from the right (next to the teacher):

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This is a class picture from 1985 when Reichel was in Grade 8. Reichel is sitting third from the right. Jiří Šlégr is in the upper row, first from the left. Robert Lang in the upper row, fifth from the left. Martin Ručínský in the middle row, second from the right (next to the teacher):

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That has to be one of the most remarkable accumulations of hockey talent in one school class ever. If not the #1. Four future NHLers. :amazed:
 

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That has to be one of the most remarkable accumulations of hockey talent in one school class ever. If not the #1. Four future NHLers. :amazed:

Yeah, of course it was a hockey class. All the boys on that picture were likely playing youth hockey with the club in Litvínov. The third kid from the right in the middle row is Ivan Hlinka's son, you can see the resemblance.
 
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That has to be one of the most remarkable accumulations of hockey talent in one school class ever. If not the #1. Four future NHLers. :amazed:

No kidding. It's hard to grasp we just used to have four kids like this in one class somewhere in this small republic. Now we haven't had a total of four players like this for about a decade, in the entire country.

Anyway, Rucinsky asserted Lang was the smartest / brightest one.
 

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Reichel was a prodigy. At the sweet age of 17, he scored 48 points in 44 games in the senior Czechoslovakian hockey league. For those who smirk, that league was bursting with talent at the time.

At the age of 18, Reichel already led the senior league in points (83) and goals (49 in 52 games), mere six points short of the record set by Milan Novy in 1977.

That was and still is unheard of. For comparison, that same year, Jagr, who by then had finally come into his own, scored 60 points in 51 games. It doesn't take a genius to realize that Reichel was at the time considered the biggest talent in the history of Czechoslovakian hockey and most definitely the most talented guy on the Holik-Reichel-Jagr line.

Whatever led to his production dropping, it's unknown to me.

He had some German ancestors and acquired a German passport, thus his connection to Germany was pretty strong. He originally played for Frankfurt during the first lockout, thus returning there during the contract holdout was a no-brainer.

Hope I have answered at least some of the questions.

Welcome! And thanks for a good first post.
 

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Yeah, of course it was a hockey class. All the boys on that picture were likely playing youth hockey with the club in Litvínov. The fourth kid from the right in the middle row is Ivan Hlinka's son, you can see the resemblance.

Was it? Did they use to mingle girls and boys in those?
 
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The board in the front row of the photo says "2. ZŠ Litvínov", which I assume means "2nd Základní Škola (Elementary School) Litvínov". That would be a "normal" school, wouldn't it?

Comparable to NA schools, grade 8 would be second year of high school, which in most school jurisdictions starts at grade 7.

Class size, 32 students in the picture, assuming all were present is larger than a typical class, 24-28 in NA.

Great contribution.
 

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The board in the front row of the photo says "2. ZŠ Litvínov", which I assume means "2nd Základní Škola (Elementary School) Litvínov". That would be a "normal" school, wouldn't it?

It can be a normal school but with hockey classes (most likely one per grade, the rest of them being regular classes). It doesn't have to have the word "hokej" in its name. Or the name could be something like "Základní škola s rozšÃ­řenou výukou tělesné výchovy" (roughly "Elementary school with advanced physical education") but it's too long for that board. It was a common scheme in the Czech education system. The girls were probably doing another sport. In any case, there are 24 boys and only 8 girls, doesn't look like a normal class to me.
 

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He had some German ancestors and acquired a German passport, thus his connection to Germany was pretty strong. He originally played for Frankfurt during the first lockout, thus returning there during the contract holdout was a no-brainer.

His brother lived in Germany, was a German citizen, played in the DEL as well as the German national team. They played against each other in international tournaments. Two brothers, each representing a different country.
 

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