Speculation: RFA’s - The unqualified and the offer sheets

[DInTheB]

So chances are we won’t pursue an offer sheet this summer, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility we go down that road. We are armed with picks and flush with cash. The question is, who would make sense to pursue? I’m thinking your guys that won’t cost firsts.

Also, it sounds like the UFA market could see a decent amount of talented unqualified RFA’s due to teams unable or unwilling to meet that price. It sounds like that is what is about to happen to Athanasiou, though I see no way we go after him again.

Anyone have any thoughts on guys in either category we could pursue?

I should probably have provided an example in this post, but I’m not in that headspace yet.

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[SirloinUB]

The idea of adding barzal is extremely tempting. Wouldn’t be cheap but running Barzal + Larkin as a 1-2 punch would be huge. Ultimately a pipe dream but it’s fun to dream ​

 

[TCNorthstars]

The idea of adding barzal is extremely tempting. Wouldn’t be cheap but running Barzal + Larkin as a 1-2 punch would be huge. Ultimately a pipe dream but it’s fun to dream ​

Yup, 4 1sts isn’t cheap.

 

[DInTheB]

A guy like Erik Cernak would be intriguing. You could get into that second round territory if you come in at a 4 year AAV. I think that would be a nice gamble, but it is a decent chunk of change for a guy that isn’t an offensive D. Your right side would be solidified though.

 

[Winger98]

Wasn't NYR rumored to be letting DeAngelo walk because of money? If anything makes me hesitate to sign Krug, it's the possibility of going after DeAngelo.

 

[The Real Pastafarian]

Yup, 4 1sts isn’t cheap.

4 firsts, and some of those will be lottery picks. Holy f*cking sh*tballs, I don't care if "Barzal" is an alternative spelling of "Gordie Howe", do not do that, Stevie. Step away from the toad-venom, Stevie.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Wasn't NYR rumored to be letting DeAngelo walk because of money? If anything makes me hesitate to sign Krug, it's the possibility of going after DeAngelo.

He takes a lot of bad/untimely penalties from what I've read...

 

[Winger98]

He takes a lot of bad/untimely penalties from what I've read...

His penalties taken don't seem out of line for his minutes. They are pretty in line with what Hronek and Green took this year. And not out of line with what other top4 guys on other teams take. He had that bad moment in the series against Carolina where he racked up 14 pims with a couple of minors and a misconduct, but the game was all but over at that point. My concern is his having a shooting percentage at all close to this year.

But he's right handed. He's younger. He puts up a bunch of points. He checks a lot of boxes for us.

 

[GoBoltz56]

Wasn't NYR rumored to be letting DeAngelo walk because of money? If anything makes me hesitate to sign Krug, it's the possibility of going after DeAngelo.

Yzerman literally sent DeAngelo packing from Tampa due to his poor attitude. He would never bring him in.

 

[A II R]

Cirelli

 

[DInTheB]

On the 31 Thoughts Podcast, Friedman says there are teams in the NHL convinced Yzerman and BreisBois are going to cook up a deal where Tampa trades us an RFA with a sweetener and then before the season starts, we trade the player back and retain salary in the process. I don’t see a world where that happens but it’s funny people are that paranoid about what Yzerman could scheme up.

 

[ArmChairGM89]

Yup, 4 1sts isn’t cheap.

I don’t think Barzal is pulling 11+ mil

 

[ArmChairGM89]

I offer sheet Barzal at 8.5-9.3 max term.
The islanders will have a lot of trouble finding the money to match it.

2 firsts
1 second
1 third.

if he takes 8.5-8.7 it’s only 1 first

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

On the 31 Thoughts Podcast, Friedman says there are teams in the NHL convinced Yzerman and BreisBois are going to cook up a deal where Tampa trades us an RFA with a sweetener and then before the season starts, we trade the player back and retain salary in the process. I don’t see a world where that happens but it’s funny people are that paranoid about what Yzerman could scheme up.

isn’t that “tampering”

 

[TCNorthstars]

I offer sheet Barzal at 8.5-9.3 max term.
The islanders will have a lot of trouble finding the money to match it.

2 firsts
1 second
1 third.

if he takes 8.5-8.7 it’s only 1 first

If you offer him 8.5 for max term (7 years) it is 4 1st round picks. 8.5*7= 59.5; 59.5/5 = 11.9 which is 4 1st territory.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

On the 31 Thoughts Podcast, Friedman says there are teams in the NHL convinced Yzerman and BreisBois are going to cook up a deal where Tampa trades us an RFA with a sweetener and then before the season starts, we trade the player back and retain salary in the process. I don’t see a world where that happens but it’s funny people are that paranoid about what Yzerman could scheme up.

Yzerman would never do that, Not even sure the league would allow something like that.

 

[MBH]

If you offer him 8.5 for max term (7 years) it is 4 1st round picks. 8.5*7= 59.5; 59.5/5 = 11.9 which is 4 1st territory.
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Gotta be some players with upside in the $4M range that would really put some cap teams in a bind.

 

[ArmChairGM89]

If you offer him 8.5 for max term (7 years) it is 4 1st round picks. 8.5*7= 59.5; 59.5/5 = 11.9 which is 4 1st territory.
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Where is this from? Never knew the rule of 5 years being the max for aav

looks like my term is now 5 years lol

 

[HisNoodliness]

Yzerman literally sent DeAngelo packing from Tampa due to his poor attitude. He would never bring him in.

Yeah I'm usually pretty willing to accept that athletes often have poor social and political opinions and concern myself only with on-ice performance, but I have no interest in DeAngelo because of his views. I would find it hard to root for him.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Where is this from? Never knew the rule of 5 years being the max for aav

looks like my term is now 5 years lol

Offer Sheet Calculator - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Offer Sheet Calculator

• An offer sheet consists of 7 compensation tiers.
• Compensation to the receiving club is made up entirely of draft picks.
• The draft picks must available in the nearest entry draft, unless the compensation requires two or more draft picks in the same round: an extra year can be used to for compensation for these picks (if two 1st round picks are required, the club must have two 1st round picks available in the next three drafts)
• Compensation is determined by the annual average (AAV) outlined in the offer made by submitting club.
• The AAV for an offer sheet, which determines the compensation required, is derived by dividing the total contract value amount by the lesser of:
  • number of years offered, or
  • five (5) years
• The AAV thresholds are readjusted each season, and is based on the average league salary for that season.
• An offer sheet cannot be greater than 7 years in length.
• See the Offer Sheet FAQ for additional information.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

Yeah I'm usually pretty willing to accept that athletes often have poor social and political opinions and concern myself only with on-ice performance, but I have no interest in DeAngelo because of his views. I would find it hard to root for him.

Care to elaborate?

 

[FabricDetails]

Care to elaborate?

Sarnia's Anthony DeAngelo suspended for slur directed at teammate

 

[Bench]

Wasn't NYR rumored to be letting DeAngelo walk because of money? If anything makes me hesitate to sign Krug, it's the possibility of going after DeAngelo.

And they had Adam Fox emerge as a younger and cheaper option to replace his production. They aren't hurting to keep a guy like DeAngelo at the moment.

Which must feel nice.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

A guy like Erik Cernak would be intriguing. You could get into that second round territory if you come in at a 4 year AAV. I think that would be a nice gamble, but it is a decent chunk of change for a guy that isn’t an offensive D. Your right side would be solidified though.

Rather just keep Lindstrom.

 

[Hockeyfannnn91]

If yzerman was an asshole he’d just offer sheet sergachev like 7 per after our 1st rd pick