Revisiting the Disastrous Kotkaniemi Offer Sheet By Carolina

[Reality Check]

One thing is for certain.

There are no winners in this story.

 

[bleedgreen]

Lol I’m kind of loving all this as a Canes fans. We’ve gone from a team no one cares about to being important enough to kick us when we’re down!

Movin on uuuup!

 

[Hale The Villain]

The Habs turning around and trading the offer sheet picks for Dvorak was also disastrous

 

[bleedgreen]

I've said this before but it still makes me laugh... I'm not sure what's worse.. Habs fans over rating him for years or Canes fans insistence that he doesn't suck and it wasn't just a petty revenge offersheet

It wasn’t. It’s well known the Canes tried to trade for KK, and they offered less than what MB knew he’d get for the offer sheet. So the trade talks didn’t work, and the Canes signed him instead. There was no revenge, they had an amicable trade discussion. They liked the player back to when they took Svech right above him. Everyone else was just having fun with the story. Of course everyone wants to believe a Texas billionaire who doesn’t in their opinion belong in the game would get revenge by spending millions on one player but that’s pretty ridiculous. Waddell said the twitter folks for the team wanted to run with it for fun and they let them. The owner trusts his management staff, doesn’t get involved in player moves other than to ask the tough questions and if there’s one guy to blame for this it’s probably the Canes brightest mind Tulsky. He’s the NHL level talent judge for the team. His fingerprints would be all over this move. They likely followed his lead and this would be his first big whiff.

I like what they tried, and how they were thinking. It didn’t work. I wanted Trocheck over KK, but I get why they didn’t. You can’t get ahead of everyone by making the same kind of moves everyone makes. This was a pretty bold attempt. Maybe the next one will work. Canes fans don’t really wring their hands about this the way everyone thinks they should. He’s an easy buyout. It didn’t cost them much besides money.

 

[Sports2]

One thing is for certain.

There are no winners in this story.

Seems to be working out well for NY.

 

[JianYang]

The kk situation is a lose-lose-win scenario.

The Habs lost, the canes lost, and KK won all the way to the bank.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

They have a coach demanding a ridiculous amount of money.

What do you consider a ridiculous amount to pay a coach?

 

[Monsieur Miz]

This goof is easily one of the worst skater in the league. I mean, just watch him, he skates like he just shat himself.

He was getting compared to Lars Eller but even that is an insult to Eller.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Trocheck, arguably

Trocheck didn’t want to stay and it didn’t keep us from signing him, we had the cap space

This goof is easily one of the worst skater in the league. I mean, just watch him, he skates like he just shat himself.

He was getting compared to Lars Eller but even that is an insult to Eller.

Have you seen rempe? That dude is a worse skater and just a publicity stunt of a hockey player

 

[Montreal Shadow]

One thing is for certain.

There are no winners in this story.

Not true. Kotkaniemi won.

 

[Negan4Coach]

Why must we "revisit" it? All except the most dedicated sycophants of "The Borg" have accepted the reality that thinking he could replace Trocheck was complete idiocy.

 

[Shocker]

Montreal fans finding small happy things, adorable.

 

[SoupNazi]

but it let the Carolina Twitter account make some cute obnoxious content and thats what REALLY matters to that dork ass franchise

What makes a franchise "dork ass" in your view?

 

[JoVel]

Isn't this thing revisited here like once a month?

 

[KevinFinnerty]

but it let the Carolina Twitter account make some cute obnoxious content and thats what REALLY matters to that dork ass franchise

Never Skjei die!

 

[Lshap]

The Habs turning around and trading the offer sheet picks for Dvorak was also disastrous

Not really. Montreal leveraged a late 1st-round pick for Dvorak, whose contract is done next season. Habs certainly didn't optimize the picks they got for Kotkaniemi, but they didn't blow it, either. A whole lot of 'meh'.

 

[WayTooCold]

Should have donated that $45M to starving African kids instead.

 

[Paper]

Me when it happened:

 

[Frank Drebin]

I'm convinced Dundon told Waddell to do it. At the time of the offersheet Carolina didn't even have a roster spot for Kotkaniemi as they had Aho, Trochek and Stall as the top 3 centers.

 

[TMLife17]

Meh. Not as bad as Zibanejad for Brassard. That was almost Erat for Forsberg levels of bad.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

Isn't the offer sheet that Kotkaniemi signed already over and the Canes signed him to an extension? Teams blow picks on players that don't work out all the time but it seems like it would be the 8-year extension that was a bad idea

WRT to the offer sheet, Kotkaniemi was a 3rd overall pick, so it was not the worst gamble to give him a shot

 

[le_sean]

The Habs turning around and trading the offer sheet picks for Dvorak was also disastrous

I mean not really if our goal was to be bad the last two seasons, he’s definitely helped that

 

[Look Up]

It’s aged horribly but IMO it’s underrated how bad of a move in the moment it was. They were in a go year and spent a first round pick and $6 million in space on their fourth line center. Like, why?

This was a horrendous move, right up there with the Jeannot debacle by the Lightning.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I'm convinced Dundon told Waddell to do it. At the time of the offersheet Carolina didn't even have a roster spot for Kotkaniemi as they had Aho, Trochek and Stall as the top 3 centers.

And, as has been mentioned multiple times already, Carolina wasn’t expecting Trocheck to re-sign. He had already informed the team he wouldn’t be signing when the offer sheet was made.

It’s likely why the Canes first attempted to trade for KK, and when that never materialized, made the offer sheet.

It doesn’t fit the “petty revenge” narrative, which is why it’s constantly overlooked.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Habs fans so caught up in crackling with glee at the Kotkaniemi contract that they forget they had a third overall pick and whiffed so hard on KK that losing him for picks that were used to trade for Christian Dvorak is considered a win.

I haven't seen such a terrible use of a third overall pick since Galchenyuk.

Its like buying a lemon car, selling it to a sucker, then spending all the money at the casino.

2 miserable teams > only your team being miserable