Replacement Players???

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  1. LaLaLaprise

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    How much longer do you think it will go before they use Replacement players?

    There are lots of good hockey players out there. And they would probably play more entertaining hockey

    Mistakes = Fun
     
  2. Dave is a killer

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    I don't know if the owners can go the replacement player route yet...we just have to wait and see if the NHLPA is a Union, which I believe holeheratedly it is...and If I was the owners I wouldn't even think twice about using replacement players at this point
     
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    Why not? Screw the players.

    Get guys who want to PLAY, for a lot less, more fans would turn out if they could get a ticket for 20 bucks instead of 120 bucks.
     
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    I'm not sure if it's legal in Canada. I know for sure in BC it's not allowed. By law, you can't bring in replacements if you already have workers there. Unless it's only in the case of a strike... :dunno:
     
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    Where would the players come from? Aren't most minor league players under NHL contract?
     
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    that's just it, they're not considered NHL players...they're AHLers
     
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    Since the owners locked out the players i dont think they can do it.

    If the players walked out on strike, then i think it would be allowed.
     
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    it is illegal in Canuckville
     
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    If I remember well....they were saying on TSN that they have to wait a year :dunno:
     
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    si senor...its called IMPASSE ... owners have to give 2, 3 or 4 more proposals and the players decline each time...then the owners can wait until next September 15, declare an impasse on the PA, then hand the Levitt report to Trevor Linden's hands and start the NHL over...shut it down and restart all over again
     
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    I'd love to see replacement players, take the NHLPA down a peg or two.

    My loyalty is to the team, always has been. I've never cared who was wearing the uniform, because so many are gone in a few years, many get traded, etc. It's always been "who's wearing it now".
     
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    Unless they droped the ticket prices down to low minor league prices it wouldn't work.

    I doubt anybody would be willing to pay $30-60 to see a bunch of has-beens play.
     
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    a bunch of hasbeens? i doubt that. the league would take a hit for awhile but it would still get the best young guys. The Capitals would still have Ovechkin, the Flames would still have Phaneuf. Pretty much anyone who hasnt joined the nhlpa yet would play just like nothing happened. Some nhlpa members would play. in 5 years the level of talent would be pretty much right where it is now.
     
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    Preds fans will know what I mean when I say...

    Captain Trevor Jobe?

    :lol

    Hell, I'd support it! Bring back Harry York and Glen Metropolit, too!
     
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    There are some serious legal issues with respect to replacement workers in all provinces of Canada. Impasse is a solution, but that is really a seperate issue.
     
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    It would take about less than a week for the NHLPA to fold if the NHL implemented replacement players.
     
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    This isn't true. A few guys have AHL contracts, but most players in the AHL have NHL contracts. They are locked out of an NHL job.

    Tom
     
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    Replacement players or impasse? I would say impasse is far more likely.

    This article outlines how an employer would go about implementing an impasse...seems pretty consistent with the NHL's strategy so far...

    http://www.lawmemo.com/emp/articles/hardball.htm
     
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    An employer inserting a lockout and then hiring replacement workers? Uhm, I'd be extremely surprised if this isn't highly illegal in any high welfare country.
     
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    that would be fantastic - signed the nfl -
     
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    The NFL and MLB(tried in spring training)used replacement players and it was an embarrassment for both leagues.When the NFL tried it in 1987,they were rightfully ridiculed.It puts the coaches in a very difficult position.The coaches hated coaching a bunch of scabs
     
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    An interesting article. Geez, I started reading this stuff and now my brain hurts.
    Man im becoming geeky. I like the page name - Hardball.


    My little brain struggles with stuff? Any legal mumbo jumbo interpreters that can tell me if they are saying anything here?

    Here was ian interesting line
    Declare impasse
    union decertifies but returns
    pa and managament spend year in courts
    players strike at end of regular season as they have played year without a contract
    oh yay
    maybe Gretzky builds an arena on his golf course and televises playoffs where players are playing for beer and gatorade boy and they televise on ppv


    A related case on that site
    Unilateral Implementation


    Out of context, not completely analogous, likely invalid precedent, ignores the appeal, and this qoute only a small snippet, but is it saying anything relevant? A waiver theory? Over my head.


    There were some mixed signals in the articles. Here was one

    Break the union? Surely not.

    Here was another one

    you read this stuff and you wonder if this thing is destined to be settled or time-wasted in the courts over arcane matters of waiver and the labour boards authority over the dynamics of collective bargaining? At the least, it seems to suggest implementation after impasse will be a strategy fraught with legal peril.


    Lawyers paradise.
     
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    - my thoughts precisely -
     
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    This opens up another option for the players. The owners declare an impasse. The union does not strike. They return to work under the owner's system but they refuse to have anything to do with audit procedures while filing lawsuits against the league and the imposed agreement.

    They play 100% of the regular season, cash 100% of their paycheques and walk off the job just before the playoffs start. If they want to be really perverse, they report back to work the following September. The owners can have their salary cap under that scenario, but they can't have a Stanley Cup Tournament.

    Tom
     
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