"Relegated" and "Promoted"?

[Ban Hammered]

we going to get any games like this?

LOL!

http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournamen...data/iihf/output/xml/60/IHM060901_74_5_0.html

Who in the blue hell leaves a kid in to face 133 shots?

 

[Panopticon]

Who in the blue hell leaves a kid in to face 133 shots?

Well, it might have been a good experience for him. He got to make 83 saves in one game...

EDIT: Heh, just noticed:

Penalty 50:26 52:26 ISL 2 min. 24 ALENGARD Emil - Holding the stick
Goal 51:11 0:40 ISL SH1 22 BJARNASON Arnthor
Penalty 51:48 53:48 ISL 2 min. 19 VIDARSSON Thorhallur - Elbowing
Goal 52:42 0:41 ISL SH1 12 ERIKSSON Karl
Goal 52:49 0:42 ISL SH1 24 ALENGARD Emil
Goal 53:15 0:43 ISL SH1 15 BLONDAL Orri

4 SH goals in less than 3 minutes... well, at least none of them was a 5 on 3 shortie... Gotta give the Armenians some credit for that

 

[Ola]

Aside from finishing first or last, what does it mean for a team to be promoted or relegated after last week's tournaments?

In International Hockey, ran by a non profit IIHF, all countrys have the same conditions.

If Cuba would sign on they would have to pay a fee and then just show up for a tournament. Though since there are so many teams, and the competition differs so much, you go through a pool system.

Cuba would start at the lowest level, the D-pool the last time I heard, and work their way up. If they win the D-pool they would then move up to the the C-pool.

If Canada and Qubeck split one of them would probably start in the D-pool, like when the Czech and the Slovakians split up, or Soviet and Latvia.

Here in Europe all leagues are non profitable, and actually owned by the fans.

The highest league in Sweden are the Swedish Elite League, which is basically run by all the 100's of teams in Sweden, and all the teams are owned by the fans.

In the SEL the same system applys, you win it one year, but if you finnish last the year after you will be relegated/demoted to the 2nd tier league.

This makes regular season extremely competetive at times, there are quit allot of money at the highest level, and practically none at the 2nd highest level. This have some interest on a place like this, were we discuss prospects, its impossible to "rebuild" for a team in Europe, and its so much easier for a coach often to bring in a vet then to play a kid.

Imagine the pressure on a coach in Toronto for example if the Maple Leafs would be sent to the AHL if they had a terrble year...

 

[Sanderson]

Owned by the fans, non profitable?

Sure, most European teams aren't all that interested in making money, as winning is more important, but there are hardly any teams which don't try to make a profit.

While some teams have a membership and allow a bit of influence, they aren't really owned by the fans. Only in rare cases do the fans have enough power to bring a change in leadership to the club.
Most of the teams are controlled by a paid management, which only in theory has to listen to members. A pretty large number of teams are in a NHL-like situation, though, with guys like Anschütz owning the team.

 

[Ola]

Owned by the fans, non profitable?

Sure, most European teams aren't all that interested in making money, as winning is more important, but there are hardly any teams which don't try to make a profit.

While some teams have a membership and allow a bit of influence, they aren't really owned by the fans. Only in rare cases do the fans have enough power to bring a change in leadership to the club.
Most of the teams are controlled by a paid management, which only in theory has to listen to members. A pretty large number of teams are in a NHL-like situation, though, with guys like Anschütz owning the team.

Maybe in Germany. Teams in Sweden can't even be owned by someone private. Some teams creates company's that handle the organization, and therefor can "sell" part of the team, but even there its a 50% limit.

And here the fans have the ultimate power. They choose a board, and the board chooses the GM ect.

And there aren't a single team that makes money and "hands" it out to anyone. Sure they want a good economy, so they can buy players and build arenas ect, but no team make profits and hands it out to someone private.