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You're not really offering anything up if that's your keep list.
Callahan, Girardi, Nash, Del Zotto, Brassard, all worth something. I do assume if this were to happen though Hank wouldn't stick around.
You're not really offering anything up if that's your keep list.
Callahan, Girardi, Nash, Del Zotto, Brassard, all worth something. I do assume if this were to happen though Hank wouldn't stick around.
since a rebuild is being discussed, dear lord please no more rebuilds under Sather. I just, when does it stop? When does Sather FINALLY step down? And just for fun, here are the players I'd keep in a rebuild if we're doing one.
-McDonagh
-Stepan
-Hagelin
-Staal
-Dorsett
-Lundqvist (if he's willing to go through that.)
-Zucca
I wonder if it ever gets to this point.
They still look like a team unfamiliar with their new system.
When some players are playing positionally the way it's been ingrained for the last 3 years and other players play positionally the way they're being asked to right now, you end up being a turnover factory as a group. Once everyone is on the same page, we won't see this happen. They aren't yet.
Callahan and Girardi are UFAs to be.
Nash is a high price item.
Del Zotto and Brassard are talented player whose careers have been wrought with inconsistent play.
It's the Stepans and McDs that are going to return the packages that jump-stary a rebuild.
And personally, I keep Callahan over Dorsett and/or Zuccarello.
I only like the idea of keeping those two because of Zucc's dedication to the organization and how well he's upped his game, and Dorsett because I like the idea of having a really good fourth liner sticking with this team for once. Kind of like Shawn Thornton for the Bruins.
And last season we saw what UFAs to be got teams at the trade deadline, Girardi can fetch a high touted prospect + 1st, same with Callahan. PMD are incredibly overvalued in this league, don't be surprised at the return Del Zotto could get.
Convenient excuse now - but Tortorella was supposed to turn around the system they'd been playing on a dime during the lockout shortened season. Do I have that right?
If you're rebuilding, Lundqvist's time is done here. Zucca can stay through the rebuild, but he's not a building block. Dorsett, I couldn't care either way. He's good for what he is.
I'd keep Staal and McD. They're the towers you can build a D around and Staal is only 26 (if I'm moving one, it's Staal I guess). I'd keep Hagelin and Stepan too I guess. I'd probably keep Callahan to oversee the rebuild a bit, and because he's more valuable to us than in a trade. In the end though, I'm not sure you have to keep anyone, specifically. Those are just the guys I would consider keeping around.
You offer Nash, Girardi, Brass (unless he really picks it up), Lundqvist, Cally, Boyle and everything else and you stock pile picks and actual prospects. Imagine having a guy like Hertl in our system? The two young pillars on defense become the team leaders and, the most important thing from then on, is to develop a culture and philosophy starting with who you're drafting, extending down into being drilled into the young guys in Hartford and finally being followed to the letter by players and staff with the big club. In about 4-5 years, Staal is barely over 30, McD is about 29 and the rest of the club is under 30 and, if the rebuild was successful, ready to rock and roll.
I honestly have been amazingly unimpressed/disappointed by Dorsett. When the Gaborik trade happened, everyone on the CBJ board were really upset that Dorsett was included. I haven't seen the guy they were talking about.
I honestly have been amazingly unimpressed/disappointed by Dorsett. When the Gaborik trade happened, everyone on the CBJ board were really upset that Dorsett was included. I haven't seen the guy they were talking about.
Staal and McD are the only Rangers D I would REALLY hate to lose. I'd maybe throw Johnny in there too if he takes strides in his development this season. Like I said to SBOB, I would love for this team to FINALLY have a 4th line guy that sticks to the team and loves being here, instead of a ****** mercenary, so I'd like to keep Dorsett. I also mentioned Lundqvist is conditional, I'd keep him but I have serious doubts he stays. I'd really not like to turn to a rebuild, though
Agreed - so far from Dorsett I've seen an uncontrolled player who takes way too many penalties, or a guy thats invisible. He needs to find a happy median between these 2 things.
And somehow we keep managing to make the playoffs year after year
No, you don't. Tortorella needed to adjust his course, not change it. AV is a different coach.
And it isn't an excuse, it's an observation. Also, it's the same observation as has been able to be made about countless other teams working with a vastly different coach from their last one. See Adam Oates last year, to name the most recent example I can think of. I'm not even saying it happens with every coach, but it does happen. From what I've seen, it looks like it's happening here.
I'd love to see the list of teams that have lost a game by 7 goals within the first week of having a new coach.
I honestly have been amazingly unimpressed/disappointed by Dorsett. When the Gaborik trade happened, everyone on the CBJ board were really upset that Dorsett was included. I haven't seen the guy they were talking about.
since a rebuild is being discussed, dear lord please no more rebuilds under Sather. I just, when does it stop? When does Sather FINALLY step down? And just for fun, here are the players I'd keep in a rebuild if we're doing one.
-McDonagh
-Stepan
-Hagelin
-Staal
-Dorsett
-Lundqvist (if he's willing to go through that.)
-Zucca
I wonder if it ever gets to this point.
You're not really offering anything up if that's your keep list.
I honestly have been amazingly unimpressed/disappointed by Dorsett. When the Gaborik trade happened, everyone on the CBJ board were really upset that Dorsett was included. I haven't seen the guy they were talking about.
Yea since he's been here I think he's been one of the worst players on the team. Last season especially, he took a lot of dumb penalties at bad times. He is supposed to be an enforcer, but I don't remember him sticking up for anyone on this team or starting any well-timed fights to gain momentum.
Staal, Callahan, Girardi, MDZ, Moore (On defense) are all something...oh yea and that lundqvist guy
Are we really talking about which players to keep/trade for a rebuild?
Really?