Realistic Trade Proposals IV
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Patrick Division
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Hiesenberg,
The return for Richards turned out to be more but no one thought Simmonds was going to be as good as he became. He was a third line winger in LA. Simmonds turned out to be a huge steal. Voracek had the pedigree of being a top 10 pick that. Either way, Richards and Carter both got great returns because they were both borderline 1st line quality centers at the time of trade. Any return for Simmonds would likely be less due to positional importance.
The return for Richards turned out to be more but no one thought Simmonds was going to be as good as he became. He was a third line winger in LA. Simmonds turned out to be a huge steal. Voracek had the pedigree of being a top 10 pick that. Either way, Richards and Carter both got great returns because they were both borderline 1st line quality centers at the time of trade. Any return for Simmonds would likely be less due to positional importance.
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The length of the Carter and Richards contracts also raised their value compared to what Simmonds would have now even with three years left.
Of course, the Richards contract turned out to be five years too long for LA but no one was worried about that at the time.
Of course, the Richards contract turned out to be five years too long for LA but no one was worried about that at the time.
JDinkalage Morgoone
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It makes me sad that people think those trades were losses due to the Kings winning two cups and the current state of the Flyers.
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If we're going to focus on "realistic," then we should think about moves around the margin, big name deals make little sense at this point because the Flyers have finally identified a core of players who fit well together, other than maybe upgrading Raffl on the 2nd line (and I think he's actually a good fit with Couts, remember, this is not just a scoring line but a shutdown line as well), the key is upgrading the 3rd and 4th lines - if the Couts line is our best defensive line, then we probably want a better scoring 3rd line and faster checkers on the 4th line than VV and White.
On defense, with Provorov almost certain to start next year, Morin with a shot, and Sanheim and Myers in the pipeline, it would be foolish to give up major assets for an expensive upgrade.
Provorov - ???
Morin - Ghost
MDZ - Gudas
On defense, with Provorov almost certain to start next year, Morin with a shot, and Sanheim and Myers in the pipeline, it would be foolish to give up major assets for an expensive upgrade.
Provorov - ???
Morin - Ghost
MDZ - Gudas
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Ehh, it's the same sort of folk that are adamant that we would have won Cups with Forsberg.
Do people actually think that still? I remember after the first Cup they did but it seemed to subside.
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Those trades were win-win. Some people think there always has to be one winner and one loser in trades...the best trades are good for both sides.
JDinkalage Morgoone
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LegionOfDoom91
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The pick that we used on Stolarz was acquired in the Bob trade. We also acquired a fourth round pick in the deal which was used on Leier.
The second round pick we acquired in the Richards trade was used to acquire Grossmann in another trade.
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At the time (and even 2.5 years ago) LA had there #2C (Carter was playing on Richards wing) locked in long term. Due to the two cups this trade will always be a win/win IMO. had LA not won the Flyers would have won the deal.
At the time Simmonds was my favorite King, and this deal further cemented that the Flyers were the team I would be routing for in the East.
I though Simmonds was locked in at a great cap hit before the deal?
I don't get why there has to be a "loser" in a trade. Sometimes there are and it is obvious.
However one thing the people who seem to think the Flyers "losed" the deal was that the deals also allowed the Flyers to re-sign (trade and sign? I forget) a Goalie whom at the time was needed, and at the time was worth a high hit.
That deal turned out terrible, but at the time there was not a GM who wouldn't have offered Bob that type of deal.
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Simmonds was an unsigned RFA when acquired (as was Voracek). He signed an extension for a total of $3.5M for two years ($1.75M per year) that summer with the Flyers.
He then went on to sign another extension two summers later with the Flyers for a total of $23.85M for six years ($3.975M per year). That's the current contract he's on.
He then went on to sign another extension two summers later with the Flyers for a total of $23.85M for six years ($3.975M per year). That's the current contract he's on.
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Yeah and Cousins is playing 2C in place of Couts right now with Jake on RW...
When Couts gets back we'll just slide Cousins over to LW and have the Carter Trade Line.
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Nat a bad return at all!
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