Value of: RD with Term

[kmwtrucks]

Friedman mentioned that some teams are ok taking players with Term. I assume this is because the cap is going up so fitting them in the next season or 2 should be ok compared to a bidding war for the UFA's this coming off season. It does not look like a strong group. he Mentioned Connor Murphy. he is 30 has 2 years after this year at 4.4 AAV and is a RD with size. he is out with a groin injury the last 4-5 games but is back skating. no idea what the market is. he is probably a #5 on playoff team that can PK. I would think the value would be a future 2nd round pick or a #1 if hawks retained 50% (2.2 aav) at least that would be the ask. would probably have some conditional picks going back based on health. I would agree if he was not a RD they would be no way he would get that return.

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[Big Daddy Cane]

The demand for defensively trustworthy Top 4 RHD leaguewide outstrips the supply. Toronto fans wanted that partner for Rielly 5 years ago and the Leafs are still looking. Don't even think about one on a 2nd (peak value) contract.

 

[MasterMatt25]

Seth Jones has term

 

[ManofSteel55]

Friedman mentioned that some teams are ok taking players with Term. I assume this is because the cap is going up so fitting them in the next season or 2 should be ok compared to a bidding war for the UFA's this coming off season. It does not look like a strong group. he Mentioned Connor Murphy. he is 30 has 2 years after this year at 4.4 AAV and is a RD with size. he is out with a groin injury the last 4-5 games but is back skating. no idea what the market is. he is probably a #5 on playoff team that can PK. I would think the value would be a future 2nd round pick or a #1 if hawks retained 50% (2.2 aav) at least that would be the ask. would probably have some conditional picks going back based on health. I would agree if he was not a RD they would be no way he would get that return.

Murphy at 50% retained for a late 1st is probably a good deal for a few teams.

 

[miscs75]

Scott Mayfield just signed a shiny new contract of 7 years. He’s your right hand man.

 

[bucks_oil]

Oilers would love to upgrade Ceci, so anyone needing a "in a pinch" 2nd pairing or "super solid" 3rd pairing RD should apply... especially if you aren't willing or able to pay the prices for a true 2nd pairing guy.... ie your needs are not as severe.

 

[Captain Mountain]

RD are in general as valuable or almost as valuable as centers. Your valuation of Murphy is off.

 

[hurdemz]

Seth Jones has term

Just out of curiosity, would Chicago retain 3mil on jones? I mean, they aren't competing for a cup within the length of his contract, and they have a ton of cap space to retain. If so, what would the cost be on him at said price?

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

The demand for defensively trustworthy Top 4 RHD leaguewide outstrips the supply. Toronto fans wanted that partner for Rielly 5 years ago and the Leafs are still looking. Don't even think about one on a 2nd (peak value) contract.

I mean, much of the Leafs problem finding that person is because they tie up 60% of their cap in 5 players.

 

[DJJones]

I mean, much of the Leafs problem finding that person is because they tie up 60% of their cap in 5 players.

They've thrown plenty of cap space at defense, it just hasn't worked out

 

[Mr Bop]

Would love to see what we could get for Savard. 1 yr left on his deal @ 3.5mil. He's got 89 blocked shots in 30 games this year (top 50 in the league) and is really solid defensively.

 

[kmwtrucks]

RD are in general as valuable or almost as valuable as centers. Your valuation of Murphy is off.

your saying the value is low or high?

Just out of curiosity, would Chicago retain 3mil on jones? I mean, they aren't competing for a cup within the length of his contract, and they have a ton of cap space to retain. If so, what would the cost be on him at said price?

I think the issue is Chicago does not want to have term out more then 2-3 years. they done have a single contract past 25-26 other then Jones. they may extend vlasic longer but he has been really good and 22.

 

[WangMustGo]

If the isles are selling I wouldn’t be opposed to moving Pulock, but he wouldn’t come cheap.

 

[miscs75]

If the isles are selling I wouldn’t be opposed to moving Pulock, but he wouldn’t come cheap.

I'm keeping Pulock over Mayfield. Pulock coming back made Pelech look more confident. Moving him means Scott Mayfield is going to play top 4 minutes and you know what that will turn into.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

I'm keeping Pulock over Mayfield. Pulock coming back made Pelech look more confident. Moving him means Scott Mayfield is going to play top 4 minutes and you know what that will turn into.

Pulock would return a haul. Mayfield couldn’t get much more then a 1st

 

[WangMustGo]

I'm keeping Pulock over Mayfield. Pulock coming back made Pelech look more confident. Moving him means Scott Mayfield is going to play top 4 minutes and you know what that will turn into.

I agree, I also think Buldoc will eventually prove to be a decent second pairing defenseman. However if a team is willing to overpay for Pulock I would entertain it.

Pulock would return a haul. Mayfield couldn’t get much more then a 1st

Mayfield would return a mid round pick at best. He isn’t having a good year and he’s locked up for 6 more years.

 

[miscs75]

Pulock would return a haul. Mayfield couldn’t get much more then a 1st

Mayfield for a 1st? Sold. That means the Isles can use his cap space for a 1-2 year guy and then bring someone in the system up. As for Pulock, the Isles have no reason to move him and the haul wouldn’t be worth it. Isles don’t want some garbage $5m cap hit, mediocre B tier prospect and a 1st in return. The offer would have to blow them away and quite a few teams aren’t giving that up.

I agree, I also think Buldoc will eventually prove to be a decent second pairing defenseman. However if a team is willing to overpay for Pulock I would entertain it.



Mayfield would return a mid round pick at best. He isn’t having a good year and he’s locked up for 6 more years.

Bolduc should be playing over Aho but Roy is testing Aho to see what he has. Same reason why Wahlstrom keeps playing instead of brining up someone from the AHL.

 

[Stealth JD]

I’m sure the Blues would listen on Justin Faulk. Three more years at $6.5M which he’d easily get in free agency.

 

[Xirik]

Get Hamilton to wave his NMC and you can have him.

 

[WangMustGo]

Mayfield for a 1st? Sold. That means the Isles can use his cap space for a 1-2 year guy and then bring someone in the system up. As for Pulock, the Isles have no reason to move him and the haul wouldn’t be worth it. Isles don’t want some garbage $5m cap hit, mediocre B tier prospect and a 1st in return. The offer would have to blow them away and quite a few teams aren’t giving that up.


Bolduc should be playing over Aho but Roy is testing Aho to see what he has. Same reason why Wahlstrom keeps playing instead of brining up someone from the AHL.

Yep, Buldoc needs experience and to gain some more muscle, but I think long term he is an NHL regular.

 

[miscs75]

Yep, Buldoc needs experience and to gain some more muscle, but I think long term he is an NHL regular.

Bolduc and Bortuzzo looked solid as a bottom pairing but please, anything but Aho and Mayfield. That pairing was worse than the Toews Mayfield pairing when he first came up and they kept getting caught on the same side of the ice during goals against.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

All the guys Hawks had that were talked about as 50% flips are no longer options

Hall is injured, Foligno re-signed and Perry was kicked off team

The Hawks very much should be open to moving Murphy (2 yrs at $4.4M) and eating 50% to maximize value should be strategy as we did with McCabe last TDL

2 yrs at $2.2M is a steal for Murphy and should garner Hawks a 1st at very least

Hawks would still have 1 retention slot available for move this offseason or next and McCabe's comes off books in offseason of 2025

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Mayfield for a 1st? Sold. That means the Isles can use his cap space for a 1-2 year guy and then bring someone in the system up. As for Pulock, the Isles have no reason to move him and the haul wouldn’t be worth it. Isles don’t want some garbage $5m cap hit, mediocre B tier prospect and a 1st in return. The offer would have to blow them away and quite a few teams aren’t giving that up.


Bolduc should be playing over Aho but Roy is testing Aho to see what he has. Same reason why Wahlstrom keeps playing instead of brining up someone from the AHL.

For Pulock from the leafs I’d offer Knies, Cowan, Minten, 1st 2024 and 1st 2027

 

[majormajor]

Just out of curiosity, would Chicago retain 3mil on jones? I mean, they aren't competing for a cup within the length of his contract, and they have a ton of cap space to retain. If so, what would the cost be on him at said price?

That would be Seth Jones on a $6.5m x 6 contract - I'd say that would be worth a massive haul, a lot of buyers would have a hard time finding the assets for that trade.

 

[Leafs87]

For Pulock from the leafs I’d offer Knies, Cowan, Minten, 1st 2024 and 1st 2027

This is gross