Speculation: RBAs next contract

[WreckingCrew]

its not about being right its about being first, then walking it back if wrong

I almost never see this happen anymore, they just let it fade into the background and pretend it didn't happen

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I almost never see this happen anymore, they just let it fade into the background and pretend it didn't happen

very true

 

[MinJaBen]

its not about being right its about being first, then walking it back if wrong

You are so precious...

 

[CandyCanes]

No need for a siren sounder for game 3 at PNC. Just announce the new Rod contract right before the players hit the ice to get the crowd amped before the game.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

with Todd M from the Kings making the most at 5 million, the coaches in the 4s range and Paul Maurice at 3.9 million as the top 5, what are we thinking for RBA?

4 years x 4 million. 3 years x 3.5 million with money going to the assistants? Does jump to 1 for a few minutes with 4 x 5.25?

If the numbers are reliable: Top 10 Highest Paid NHL Coaches in 2024 | sportinglad

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Rod's agent must hate Rod. Leak the news to manipulate negotiations one day, and have Rod follow up with "we'll figure it out quickly. I'm not concerned" the next

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

@Svechhammer must be a Friedman source. Friedman saying today he had heard that Rod has a verbal agreement in place just waiting for more money for his assistants.

gotta love the more positive light today after all the "credibles" catastrophizing it yesterday.

 

[Unsustainable]

with Todd M from the Kings making the most at 5 million, the coaches in the 4s range and Paul Maurice at 3.9 million as the top 5, what are we thinking for RBA?

4 years x 4 million. 3 years x 3.5 million with money going to the assistants? Does jump to 1 for a few minutes with 4 x 5.25?

If the numbers are reliable: Top 10 Highest Paid NHL Coaches in 2024 | sportinglad

50m signing bonus. 100k annual salary, lifetime contract.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

This makes sense to me. The agent wants to negotiate hard so that this isn't used in his other negotiations, while confident that it won't affect his clients job status since both parties want to get it done anyway

 

[Svechhammer]

50m signing bonus. 100k annual salary, lifetime contract.

Like I tell my wife, there's no sense in playing stupid games when you know what you want. Both sides here know what they want, and it sounds like the agent is trying to make things more messy than it needs to be

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Like I tell my wife, there's no sense in playing stupid games when you know what you want. Both sides here know what they want, and it sounds like the agent is trying to make things more messy than it needs to be

Seems like maybe the agent is negotiating for his cut instead of his client's interests. That's the kind of nonsense that gets people fired.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Like I tell my wife, there's no sense in playing stupid games when you know what you want. Both sides here know what they want, and it sounds like the agent is trying to make things more messy than it needs to be

The games are part of the game.

 

[Chrispy]

Seems like maybe the agent is negotiating for his cut instead of his client's interests. That's the kind of nonsense that gets people fired.

But if the agent tells Rod he's negotiating for Rod AND the assistants, Rod will be on board.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Seems like maybe the agent is negotiating for his cut instead of his client's interests. That's the kind of nonsense that gets people fired.

Agents are like insurance, they just want their cut, not to actually help you in any way

 

[Chrispy]

Let me sum up.

Rod to his agent:

His agent's response:

 

[Lempo]

I wonder how close Rod is to his agent firing him.

 

[Borsig]

Why does rod even need an agent?

Tom - rod wanna coach?
Rod - yes.
Tom how's 3m sound
Rod ok but take care of my staff
Tom okay. Deal.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Let me sum up.

Rod to his agent:

His agent's response:

There’s a Tim for every scenario

 

[Joe McGrath]

Rod's agent must hate Rod. Leak the news to manipulate negotiations one day, and have Rod follow up with "we'll figure it out quickly. I'm not concerned" the next

The feeling is probably mutual. Do you think Rod wanted to be answering these questions today?

 

[htdoc]

Key commentary in there validating that agents and other coaches are ticked at him because he is messing up the con for everyone else. They can't get as much of a fleecing of the billionaire owners if those owners can hold up Rod as an example comparable and Rod is ruining crazy raises (and agent fees!!!) for other coaches getting new contracts.

It happens just as much with the players. Don't you dare take a discounted rate. You will mess up the arbitration for all the other players who will have your contract used against them. No you can't take 5m aav from the Canes to leave room for them to load up their team under the cap. You need to sign this deal with a crappy team in Chicago for $9.25 x 8 to reset the rates for RFA defenseman that will be used for Nurse in Edmonton and Dougie in NJ. Your team doesn't want you. They were insulting you with their offer. They only offered you the salary they did because they thought you were a chump who would take it. They don't value you. Stick with me and I will show you the love so I can also get 3 more clients a boat anchor of a contract and I can pocket the fees off it. Who cares if you have to suffer 5 seasons of pitiful results and non stop losing. They will love you and value you in Chicago or NJ for that $9M+ and you can enjoy the extra money to offset the constant losing and not making the playoffs. Get with the program buddy. This is how the NHL works. You will do what us agents and your fellow players want or pay the price with planted stories and bad PR.....


ETA.... now having said that, don't want to make it seem I don't understand and tip a cap to the guys that play the media game and say all the "right" things about the team they are with and wanting to get it done, while behind the scenes telling te agent to get them every single last penny possible. They earned that right based on their unions hard negotiated CBA terms. And if they want to earn every penny they can because most careers are super short and they need to earn it while they can before they are cutoff and have to love the rest of their lives off their time in the show and generations after them will benefit, go for it. All the best to them as that is their right as a players. My loyalties are to a team and that is in direct conflict with a player wanting to get every penny and moving on to do it as the hard cap prevents everyone getting paid what they can get on the open market. So as a fan I want the hometown discounts so the owner doesn't pocket the savings but rather uses it to their advantage to build a better overall team than the hard cap might otherwise have allowed. But respect to those that want to use their negotiated rights to their max benefit...

 

[Derailed75]

Key commentary in there validating that agents and other coaches are ticked at him because he is messing up the con for everyone else. They can't get as much of a fleecing of the billionaire owners if those owners can hold up Rod as an example comparable and Rod is ruining crazy raises (and agent fees!!!) for other coaches getting new contracts.

It happens just as much with the players. Don't you dare take a discounted rate. You will mess up the arbitration for all the other players who will have your contract used against them. No you can't take 5m aav from the Canes to leave room for them to load up their team under the cap. You need to sign this deal with a crappy team in Chicago for $9.25 x 8 to reset the rates for RFA defenseman that will be used for Nurse in Edmonton and Dougie in NJ. Your team doesn't want you. They were insulting you with their offer. They only offered you the salary they did because they thought you were a chump who would take it. They don't value you. Stick with me and I will show you the love so I can also get 3 more clients a boat anchor of a contract and I can pocket the fees off it. Who cares if you have to suffer 5 seasons of pitiful results and non stop losing. They will love you and value you in Chicago or NJ for that $9M+ and you can enjoy the extra money to offset the constant losing and not making the playoffs. Get with the program buddy. This is how the NHL works. You will do what us agents and your fellow players want or pay the price with planted stories and bad PR.....


ETA.... now having said that, don't want to make it seem I don't understand and tip a cap to the guys that play the media game and say all the "right" things about the team they are with and wanting to get it done, while behind the scenes telling te agent to get them every single last penny possible. They earned that right based on their unions hard negotiated CBA terms. And if they want to earn every penny they can because most careers are super short and they need to earn it while they can before they are cutoff and have to love the rest of their lives off their time in the show and generations after them will benefit, go for it. All the best to them as that is their right as a players. My loyalties are to a team and that is in direct conflict with a player wanting to get every penny and moving on to do it as the hard cap prevents everyone getting paid what they can get on the open market. So as a fan I want the hometown discounts so the owner doesn't pocket the savings but rather uses it to their advantage to build a better overall team than the hard cap might otherwise have allowed. But respect to those that want to use their negotiated rights to their max benefit...

This! I can honestly say I do in fact take other things into consideration when weighing offers and money is certainly important but I have take jobs that paid less because I knew the job would be better and my quality of life would be higher. So I would have no issue taking less as an athlete to live in a better area or play for a better team, but I understand why some people would not.

 

[zman77]

Rod is an Amazing Coach!!
What was his goal before the season?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Dreger is an insider alright. Here is his admit was wrong by phrasing differently. You got played dreger. But yay raleigh or former insiders confirming it

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Dreger is an insider alright. Here is his admit was wrong by phrasing differently. You got played dreger. But yay raleigh or former insiders confirming it

total clown

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Yes, but not quite as believable as "reporters pulling stuff out of their asses for clicks".

Oh look, the obvious thing was obvious after all!