GDT: Rangers 2019 Training Camp Thread: Part II

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[ohbaby]

I'm very surprised with the disparity between teams A and B. If Chytil wasn't on team B, I would have no reason to watch them on Friday. That said, I am overjoyed we have a stacked team A up against these NJ tryouts, in this our first preseason game.

Our first two lines Wednesday should look pretty awesome against these wannabe's. Zibanejad, Panarin and Kakko, might be unstoppable Wednesday.

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[Ghost of jas]

I find it very interesting how Quinn is deploying Chytil in the preseason. He’s going to be the 1C in the game on Friday. Quinn is not shielding him with Kreider and Kravtsov as linemates, playing behind the big line. He’s also doing this on the road. It feels like Quinn is immediately testing him. Chytil having a successful season as the 2C changes the fortunes of this team this season for the better.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I find it very interesting how Quinn is deploying Chytil in the preseason. He’s going to be the 1C in the game on Friday. Quinn is not shielding him with Kreider and Kravtsov as linemates, playing behind the big line. He’s also doing this on the road. It feels like Quinn is immediately testing him. Chytil having a successful season as the 2C changes the fortunes of this team this season for the better.

It is interesting but the more I reflect on the general theme from Quinn last year, it isn't actually that surprising.

 

[Kendo]

I love that Flip is getting an opportunity to grab the reins!

If he seizes the opportunity and rises to the occasion, it changes the complexion of our offense considerably. 2C is the only void on our roster and throughout the system.

 

[Edge]

I find it very interesting how Quinn is deploying Chytil in the preseason. He’s going to be the 1C in the game on Friday. Quinn is not shielding him with Kreider and Kravtsov as linemates, playing behind the big line. He’s also doing this on the road. It feels like Quinn is immediately testing him. Chytil having a successful season as the 2C changes the fortunes of this team this season for the better.

I suspect at this point, with more or less 130 pro games under his belt, the Rangers want to start getting some clearer ideas concerning Chytil. Center vs. wing, whether he can stick on the second line this year, etc. Not that this is a final exam by any stretch, but I think they want to see just how much they can challenge him. As you said, if indeed he can grab that role and run with it, it makes a tremendous difference this season and beyond.

 

[haveandare]

Bottom 6 is going to be interesting. Unless one of Vlad and/or Strome get sent down, good odds that someone like Lias or Kravtsov are going to start in Hartford.

I just hope the office and Quinn have the convictions to not keep up a vet over a young player just for the sake of avoid it looking bad to send down a guy with a big contract.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I suspect at this point, with more or less 130 pro games under his belt, the Rangers want to start getting some clearer ideas concerning Chytil. Center vs. wing, whether he can stick on the second line this year, etc. Not that this is a final exam by any stretch, but I think they want to see just how much they can challenge him. As you said, if indeed he can grab that role and run with it, it makes a tremendous difference this season and beyond.

Posters here keep using Chytil’s quote about how he’s been a center all his life. But I keep going back to Gorton’s own comments when being interviewed at the end of the season on MSG, where he specifically said, ‘the jury is still out as to whether Chytil is a center or wing at the NHL level’. And that has to represent the collective thinking of the organization. I’m not convinced Chytil is better at center than at wing, but I’m hoping he convinces me.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Posters here keep using Chytil’s quote about how he’s been a center all his life. But I keep going back to Gorton’s own comments when being interviewed at the end of the season on MSG, where he specifically said, ‘the jury is still out as to whether Chytil is a center or wing at the NHL level’. And that has to represent the collective thinking of the organization. I’m not convinced Chytil is better at center than at wing, but I’m hoping he convinced me.

FWIW Quinn said they see him as a center in March

 

[Ghost of jas]

FWIW Quinn said they see him as a center in March

I know, and the GM contradicted that.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I know, and the GM contradicted that.

Sort of

 

[Edge]

FWIW Quinn said they see him as a center in March

I truly believe the Rangers prefer and hope he can stick at center. Because if he can, that's a hell of a nice piece to have.

I think they're going to push for that result as long as possible; until either he sticks or it becomes obvious that a move to the wings is for the best.

 

[Levitate]

Sort of

Yes I think that's less of a "we see him as one or the other" and more of "we hope he'll be a center but if he's not then we'll move him to wing" kind of thing.

They're not sure what position would be best for him yet but they hope that he'll be able to take over the center position

 

[cwede]

...have the convictions to not keep up a vet over a young player just for the sake of avoid it looking bad to send down a guy with a big contract.

HAA you know better than to say decision making is due to "the sake of avoid it looking bad"

They may send down waiver exempt players, over at-risk assets,
but also the team in October and the team in March will be different beasts.

All this hand-wringing against young guys spending time in AHL seems such wasted anxiety to me...

but to initial point, i don't believe we have ever seen NYR make roster decisions based not "looking bad"

 

[JohnC]

I see Chytil as a 55-65 point winger, which would be really nice out of a 21st OA.

Haven’t seen anything to suggest otherwise.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I see Chytil as a 55-65 point winger, which would be really nice out of a 21st OA.

Haven’t seen anything to suggest otherwise.

Ever? Or just at the NHL level?

 

[JohnC]

Ever? Or just at the NHL level?

Probably just at the NHL level (I wasn’t TOTALLY tuned into the WJC this past year).

I’d say what he’s accomplished in the NHL is impressive for his age for sure, but some of the expectations for him on here have sort of taken on a life of their own (especially w/r/t comparing him to Lias Andersson).

I’d be more than glad to be wrong on it. I just haven’t seen it. Yet.

 

[Fitzy]

It took Hertl a long time to hit his full potential, as a Lw/c no reason Chytils shouldn't get the same patience. 40 points would be great from him this year.

 

[JohnC]

It took Hertl a long time to hit his full potential, as a Lw/c no reason Chytils shouldn't get the same patience. 40 points would be great from him this year.

This is true. It does seem like he’s been around forever already despite being so young still.

Just funny seeing Lias not afforded the same patience. One is a future 2C while one is not long for the organization. A mere two years after their draft year.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Probably just at the NHL level (I wasn’t TOTALLY tuned into the WJC this past year).

I’d say what he’s accomplished in the NHL is impressive for his age for sure, but some of the expectations for him on here have sort of taken on a life of their own (especially w/r/t comparing him to Lias Andersson).

I’d be more than glad to be wrong one it. I just haven’t seen it. Yet.

You will be. I don’t dispute his talent level or skill. There is no doubt in my mind that he becomes a productive top six forward at the NHL level. I just have my doubts that center is his best position.

 

[ohbaby]

Posters here keep using Chytil’s quote about how he’s been a center all his life. But I keep going back to Gorton’s own comments when being interviewed at the end of the season on MSG, where he specifically said, ‘the jury is still out as to whether Chytil is a center or wing at the NHL level’. And that has to represent the collective thinking of the organization. I’m not convinced Chytil is better at center than at wing, but I’m hoping he convinces me.

I am encouraged in how he says he will fight for his natural position. But I do agree, that the jury is still out, until he shows he can handle it. If he succeeds it could be huge for this team. It would turn one of our weaknesses up the middle into one of our strengths.

 

[Rongomania]

I like that Gorts kinda outed Quinn in a way I feel RE: the 'Jury's out' comment V. Quinn's comments in March.

It shows: reality+balls+passion, pertaining to the direction of the club = to me, the ultimate form of 'giving a f***'.

 

[Fitzy]

This is true. It does seem like he’s been around forever already despite being so young still.

Just funny seeing Lias not afforded the same patience. One is a future 2C while one is not long for the organization. A mere two years after their draft year.

Yeah someone with connections (Don't remember who, maybe ecos or bobbop) was saying he'd fallen out of favor in the org. and they might trade him.

Still, he's here, and centering an offensive line tonight. So it's far from over.

 

[JohnC]

You will be. I don’t dispute his talent level or skill. There is no doubt in my mind that he becomes a productive top six forward at the NHL level. I just have my doubts that center is his best position.

We shall see.

We at least agree that he is not long for the center position.