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[WreckingCrew]

f*** it, grab Ilya Nabokov and let him and Kooch fight it out for starter

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Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Ilya Nabokov, 2003-03-27 Kasli, RUS Russia. Most recently in the undefined with Metallurg Magnitogorsk. Complete player biography and stats.

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[Nikishin Go Boom]

1 play or goal against absolutely can kill a team. It can be a big momentum changer. Look at Game 5. We had absolutely nothing going for us for most of the game, Staal scores and suddenly we’re all over the Rangers.

Or hell, look at the Islanders series. We scored 2 goals in a span of 10 seconds…twice…because we capitalized off the momentum of the first goal.

Then take a look at this game. Rangers were basically dead in the water, Freddie allows the 2nd, and the tables turned quickly.

We scored 2 goals within 10 seconds because we capitalized on boneheaded plays. Are you suggesting those boneheaded plays don’t happen outside of after goals being scored before it? I would like to see that breakdown. Boneheaded plays happen all the time without a goal before.

Momentum can swing effort levels but teams survive momentum swings multiple times a game. We survived the momentum swing after the first goal allowed.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Fire everyone. Trade everyone. Fold the franchise. Delete all record of them from the league database. Burn down the arena. Pass a law forbidding professional hockey in Raleigh forever.

 

[hurricure]

Fire everyone. Trade everyone. Fold the franchise. Delete all record of them from the league database. Burn down the arena. Pass a law forbidding professional hockey in Raleigh forever.

about time

 

[hblueridgegal]

A net 0% PP makes for an uphill climb against any opponent. They need to explore foundational change. I don’t know if that will be out there (Stamkos?), but the current group inspires zero confidence of avoiding another power outage in the future.

I hope someday they become more comfortable with the bright lights of the big stage and expectations.

 

[CandyCanes]

Pesce’s dad making it seem like he’s for sure gone this offseason.

 

[hblueridgegal]

The window isn't rapidly closing. They're still contenders for a while even with changes coming.

Contenders but perhaps not closers.

 

[NorthStar4Canes]

Guys, the answer is somewhere in the middle.

The team collapsed in the 3rd. Freddie also played bad and let in 2 gamechanging soft goals.

It’s ok to say both.

It was actually 3 softies if not for Martinook's heroics. I'm sure it registered as one in their heads to determine Fred wasn't even close to being dialled-in, but shaky as f***.

Lost their poise, couldn't maintain much pressure after that. You know Lavi and the rest could see it and they came out to exploit that weakness every chance they got inc stuffing wraparounds and rebounds off the back . Why not? and it worked forcing miscues and gave the confidence for Kreider to own the 3rd period.

2 or 3 posts and solid goaltending at the other end foiling the chances the Canes did get sealed the unfortunate deal, and now the dream of joining the ranks of historic comeback teams is over.

Disappointing for sure, but if it were easy it wouldn't have been historic.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Pesce’s dad making it seem like he’s for sure gone this offseason.

It was deleted

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Momentum can swing effort levels but teams survive momentum swings multiple times a game. We survived the momentum swing after the first goal allowed.

This is true. But giving the opportunity for another momentum swing by allowing another weak goal isn’t a good idea.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Then take a look at this game. Rangers were basically dead in the water, Freddie allows the 2nd, and the tables turned quickly.

Nothing to be said about Kotkaniemi literally just standing there and watching the other team’s star goal scorer take a straight line to the puck after it’s thrown at Freddie’s feet, and poke it into the net uncontested?

The optics of allowing that goal are bad for Freddie, but he’s not a one-man defense. There was no play to be made by the puck carrier on that post, and he needed to be on his feet and set for a move across the net. In that situation, throwing a puck at his feet should not turn into him being 1-on-1 with Krieder.

 

[sabremike]

Fire everyone. Trade everyone. Fold the franchise. Delete all record of them from the league database. Burn down the arena. Pass a law forbidding professional hockey in Raleigh forever.

STORMY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

 

[Joe McGrath]

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone say anything about Aho blocking his own defenseman’s clearing attempt before the final goal instead of just letting it exit the zone and get a change. That was one of the more brain dead plays I’ve ever seen.

It was a lot of mistakes by a lot of players. It happens.

Next year it’s going to be a lot different team. Everyone wants Freddy gone but he’s got another year and to have him be the 1B to Koch isn’t really a bad thing (as long as they don’t f*** around and find out again in the playoffs).

 

[User13452]

Pesce’s dad making it seem like he’s for sure gone this offseason.

He’s been gone since the beginning of this season. No way the canes are gonna pay what some other dumb team will and regret the contract 3 years in Pesce already showed signs of slowing down this year his skating won’t keep up

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Nothing to be said about Kotkaniemi literally just standing there and watching the other team’s star goal scorer take a straight line to the puck after it’s thrown at Freddie’s feet, and poke it into the net uncontested?

The optics of allowing that goal are bad for Freddie, but he’s not a one-man defense. There was no play to be made by the puck carrier on that post, and he needed to be on his feet and set for a move across the net. In that situation, throwing a puck at his feet should not turn into him being 1-on-1 with Krieder.

KK is playing the possible pass. Lord knows how many times the Canes have left a guy wide open in front of the net from that behind the net pass. It looks like KK believes Zib has the puck going behind the net, and he’s going to cut off the pass to the slot, either to a late man trailing the play between the circles or to Krieder at the side of the net.

Instead, Zib attempted to bank the puck off Andersen from behind the net, a shot he likely wouldn’t have attempted with any confidence if Andersen didn’t have a history of allowing shit like that in previous games. Andersen attempts to cover it, but not before Krieder pokes it in.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone say anything about Aho blocking his own defenseman’s clearing attempt before the final goal instead of just letting it exit the zone and get a change. That was one of the more brain dead plays I’ve ever seen.

It was a lot of mistakes by a lot of players. It happens.

Next year it’s going to be a lot different team. Everyone wants Freddy gone but he’s got another year and to have him be the 1B to Koch isn’t really a bad thing (as long as they don’t f*** around and find out again in the playoffs).

I was hoping our clearing issues that were rampant in the 1st wouldn’t bite us. It did, 3 times this game. We struggle with it sometimes

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone say anything about Aho blocking his own defenseman’s clearing attempt before the final goal instead of just letting it exit the zone and get a change. That was one of the more brain dead plays I’ve ever seen.

It was a lot of mistakes by a lot of players. It happens.

Next year it’s going to be a lot different team. Everyone wants Freddy gone but he’s got another year and to have him be the 1B to Koch isn’t really a bad thing (as long as they don’t f*** around and find out again in the playoffs).

Yeah, Rod made some questionable decisions this playoffs (scratching Kuzy to play his replacement less than 10 minutes in a 2OT game, for example), but the decision not to rotate goalies is by far the most baffling. We took a system that was working for us in the regular season and threw it out the window when the playoffs came around.

How does PK only get 1 out of 11 games in a playoff run where Andersen is rocking a SV% below .900?

 

[tarheelhockey]

KK is playing the possible pass. Lord knows how many times the Canes have left a guy wide open in front of the net from that behind the net pass. It looks like KK believes Zib has the puck going behind the net, and he’s going to cut off the pass to the slot, either to a late man trailing the play between the circles or to Krieder at the side of the net.

Instead, Zib attempted to bank the puck off Andersen from behind the net, a shot he likely wouldn’t have attempted with any confidence if Andersen didn’t have a history of allowing shit like that in previous games. Andersen attempts to cover it, but not before Krieder pokes it in.

But there’s no unmarked man for him to defend — other than Kreider. He had multiple layers of Canes behind him covering any threat to the slot. The only pass option was Kreider, who went directly to the post while Kotkaniemi vaguely gestured in that direction while puck-watching.

I’m just asking what people think Andersen was supposed to do there. The puck was shot into his skate from behind the goal line, so there’s no kicking it out of danger. Freddie can’t move that skate without exposing the net behind it. He gets his glove down to try and cover the post, but less than one second later, Kreider crams it past him while Kotkaniemi covers… nothing on the other side of the net. How is this on the goalie?

 

[Blueline Bomber]

But there’s no unmarked man for him to defend — other than Kreider. He had multiple layers of Canes behind him covering any threat to the slot. The only pass option was Kreider, who went directly to the post while Kotkaniemi vaguely gestured in that direction while puck-watching.

I’m just asking what people think Andersen was supposed to do there. The puck was shot into his skate from behind the goal line, so there’s no kicking it out of danger. Freddie can’t move that skate without exposing the net behind it. He gets his glove down to try and cover the post, but less than one second later, Kreider crams it past him while Kotkaniemi covers… nothing on the other side of the net. How is this on the goalie?

Again, I don’t think KK saw the initial shot by Zib. It looks like he’s expecting Zib to come from behind the net with the puck and make the pass from the opposite side. He’s still tracking Zib as he’s coming around the net, which explains his delayed reaction to covering Kreider.

 

[Gurglesons]

Penguins fans saying you lost the Guentzel trade already lol. God my fellow fans are such morons.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

 

[tarheelhockey]

Again, I don’t think KK saw the initial shot by Zib. It looks like he’s expecting Zib to come from behind the net with the puck and make the pass from the opposite side. He’s still tracking Zib as he’s coming around the net, which explains his delayed reaction to covering Kreider.

I get that, but why is he tracking Zib at all? He has no play to make on the far post, and nobody other than Kreider as a trailer.

There’s ONE passing option and it’s a guy with nearly 130 goals the last three years, making a beeline to the crease. Locking that guy up, or at least getting between him and the net, is the only relevant defensive play to be made. Kotkaniemi took half a second to think about it, and in that half a second Kreider got busy scoring a goal.

 

[StrmSurge]

You boys must be cheerleaders like RBA .

Said on the main board Andersen over Kochetkov would cost us this series. Nobody ain't got nothing til say til after it all happens though.

Fanaticism doesn't mean you must lose objectivity. Sadly, sports forums are where you find those types of fans.

 

[Chrispy]

Fire everyone. Trade everyone. Fold the franchise. Delete all record of them from the league database. Burn down the arena. Pass a law forbidding professional hockey in Raleigh forever.

 

[ndp]

Yeah, Rod made some questionable decisions this playoffs (scratching Kuzy to play his replacement less than 10 minutes in a 2OT game, for example), but the decision not to rotate goalies is by far the most baffling. We took a system that was working for us in the regular season and threw it out the window when the playoffs came around.

How does PK only get 1 out of 11 games in a playoff run where Andersen is rocking a SV% below .900?

I’ll add in the oddball line combos outside of the first line.
Noesen and Drury showed so much chemistry all season why split them up?

Was TT - Staal - Jarvis a line that was ever played with any regularity until the playoffs?

Why in the world did they break up the Martinook Staal combo?

Some of these are truly baffling decisions to me, and they never once attempted to make any line combination adjustments 5v5. They looked like a team with 0 chemistry absolutely no rhythm whatsoever to how they were playing. Staal is out here dumping pucks on TT’s side and gdamn Trouba and Kreider are sitting there waiting on him? Go on down there and win that battle 5’8” 190# TT.

Square pegs into round holes, stubborn asses.