Confirmed with Link: Quinn out as HC, Ray Tufts not returning to team
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Or it can be a sign they want to move forward and not wanting to stay in the basement.
Quinn was fired after a season everyone and there mothers knew was coming. Was being this bad the wanted outcome? Probably not exactly, but nobody was expected Hertl to miss time, Couture to miss the entire season, Granlund to miss time, Benning to miss basically the entire season and last nobody expected Hertl to be traded.
As much as some don't like Quinn, i would say he actually did pretty good for just how bad this roster truely was.
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Or Will Smith could have been put off by how Quinn handled Lafreniere in NYR and wants no part of him. And could be excited for a new HC to coincide with him coming to SJ.
Munnyro
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If anyone should take credit for his turnaround this season, it should be Panarin. Not Laviolette.
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Quinn got released because GMMG has a much faster rebuild plan. No way does GMMG plan on tanking again, else he would have kept Quinn. He wants the team to be competitive next year by signing 3-year contracts to aging vets, 1-year prove it contracts to possible busts, and but no cap dumps. For sure we will sign a physical defensemen.
I don't think it is Quinn's call, but it would have been better to have more rotating call-ups from the Barracuda and let the vets rotate to the bench. Why play Hoffman, Bailey, Barabonov, McDonald, Addison, Vlasic, etc until the bitter end? It is pretty much understood what kind of players they are, so what's the point.
I don't think it is Quinn's call, but it would have been better to have more rotating call-ups from the Barracuda and let the vets rotate to the bench. Why play Hoffman, Bailey, Barabonov, McDonald, Addison, Vlasic, etc until the bitter end? It is pretty much understood what kind of players they are, so what's the point.
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If he's also not committed to signing long-term deals, I don't know how he's going to pull that off.
I feel like I remember folks here saying Quinn (back when he was first hired) wasn't good for player development and doesn't like to play the kids.
LadyStanley
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May be a good thing (in the short term, until team returns to playoffs/respectability). May have to slightly over pay to get some character players.
Kunin is willing to play and teach/mentor the kids.
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That's seemingly the party line from Rangers fans. I think that's why it was the message out there.
LadyStanley
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Considering how he helped Cooley and Blackwood and Kahkonen, no brainer.
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I really hope this doesn't start a revolving door of coaches. The sharks will absolutely ruin all their young players with the lack of stability behind the bench.
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I really think there's absolutely no value in speculating, pontificating, or worrying about this until we get some actual further news. Grier thought replacing Quinn a year earlier than apparently planned was the right move, and there are a dozen separate reasons why that could be, but we won't know which one is true (and thus, have no means by which to actually evaluate the process) until we get more info.
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themelkman
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Big difference in that Speer seemed to coach well and Quinn didntNow apparently Grier wants to keep Speer
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I completely disagree with the idea of hiring someone like Warsofsky or Carle. We're not at the Cooper or Bednar hiring stage. We need an experienced NHL head coach who can install a more conventional defensive structure and command more accountability than Quinn apparently did. In 2-3 years we can reassess both GM and coach depending on what the overall organizational picture looks like.
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I don't know if the culture itself was shitty (I mean, beyond what it's going to feel like in the room when you lose a shit-ton of games)--or at least I don't know if I believe that was why Quinn got the axe.
I sort of wonder if the biggest issue was Quinn's system, particularly defensively, which I'm not smart enough to fully understand but I know others have critiqued it and safe to say we saw with our own two eyes that it was a total mess even if we couldn't pinpoint why.
If that were the case, it might be that Grier decided he doesn't want his young players developing in such a system (or at least not any longer than they have in the case of those with the club already) and especially with more promising kids coming up in the next couple years, it would make sense to not persist because that could genuinely be bad for their long-term development.
I forgot to say, that could be a reason why Warsofsky could get a chance (though I, too, doubt he will get more than an interview and maybe get kept on as an assistant); he may well have his own ideas for systems that differ significantly from Quinn's.
Anomie2029
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Quinn had one edict this season - the team should be tough to play against and have a high compete. This team was the complete opposite. The only times there was any pushback was after Grier addressed the team and a slight bump when Couture came back for a few games.
I thought Sturm’s end of season comments revealed a lot. I took them to mean that the team became comfortable with being blown out in games and not pushing back. This is obviously not acceptable when you want prospects to be developing in the right kind of culture, otherwise you end up in the Buffalo/Arizona zone of constant rebuild.
Anomie2029
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Personally, I don't really care about the level of NHL experience. So many coaches get 3-4 opportunities which inevitably end up the same way. I don't want to see a Claude Julien, Todd McClellan, Craig Berube, or Gerard Gallant because they're experienced.
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I really hope Grier has a clear idea of what he wants from the coach, and thoroughly interview candidates against that. For me the key things he needs to look for:
- Strong defensive zone system.
- Ability to adapt systems when things don't work.
- Accountability for every player, not just the younger players.
Jargon
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I don’t care if the coach has NHL experience I care that he’s a good coach.
I can’t get it out of my mind that Gallant at least outwardly seems like the kind of guy Grier would want (fiery, accountability, etc etc) but since we have no actual idea why Quinn was fired (this team would have been terrible under the best coach), I don’t know the quality he’s looking to replace.
I actually really dislike the game of musical chairs that NHL coaches play and I’d rather bring in someone smart and promising with new ideas than the same old thing. Isn’t Marco Sturm supposed to be pretty good?
**edited Marco in for Nico because brain
I can’t get it out of my mind that Gallant at least outwardly seems like the kind of guy Grier would want (fiery, accountability, etc etc) but since we have no actual idea why Quinn was fired (this team would have been terrible under the best coach), I don’t know the quality he’s looking to replace.
I actually really dislike the game of musical chairs that NHL coaches play and I’d rather bring in someone smart and promising with new ideas than the same old thing. Isn’t Marco Sturm supposed to be pretty good?
**edited Marco in for Nico because brain
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Alaskanice
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Nico is a warrior on the ice.
I have an idea you meant Marco Sturm. I’ve heard he’s an up and comer.
YUPPY
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Hearing Eddie Belfour is interested in the Sharks goalie coach position LOL
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It's hard to coach while smashed into the boards.
