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PTD 2014 Thread

GFS

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PTD 2014​

  • Draft the best team of players born in 1960 or later
  • Each team drafts 12 forwards, 6 defencemen, and 2 goalies
  • Please PM the next GM after making your pick
  • GMs with skipped picks will be auto-skipped until they make up all their skipped picks
  • We will use two methods to vote on the best team: the Polls Forum and GM votes, so there can be two winners to this game

Polls Section Voting
  • Standings - Group A (Calgary, Colorado, Detroits, New Jersey, San Jose)
  • Standings - Group B (Chicago, Edmonton, Montreal, NY Islanders, Pittsburgh)
  • 3rd Place (Edmonton vs. New Jersey)
  • PTD Finals (Detroit vs. Montreal)

Voting Results

Stanley Cup Champions!

:wings :devils​


And the results are in. Congratulations to Detroit on winning the Finals poll voting over Montreal by a score of 29-25!

The 3rd place winner goes to New Jersey over Edmonton by a score of 18-6.

The top-4 for the polls voting are:

1. Detroit Red Wings
2. Montreal Canadiens
3. New Jersey Devils
4. Edmonton Oilers

As for the GM votes, congratulations to New Jersey on winning the championship!

GM Voting results:

No. Team General Manager Points 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th
1New Jersey DevilsTheDevilMadeMe71152
2Montreal CanadiensBenchBrawl67232 1
3Chicago BlackhawksHawkey Town 18591 232
4San Jose SharksRob Scuderi521 12 4
5Colorado AvalancheResilientBeast451 131 11
6Edmonton Oilerspapershoes38 1 123 1
7Calgary FlamesDeja Lu321 241
8New York IslandersHobnobs321 1 114
9Pittsburgh PenguinsSelfish Man31 1111211
10Detroit Red Wingsquoipourquoi13 1 7
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Thank you to everyone who participated in the draft! It was a lot of fun!

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Roster Thread
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RoundTime
Rounds 1-212 hours
Rounds 3-610 hours
Rounds 7-148 hours
Rounds 15-206 hours
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No.TeamGeneral Manager
1Detroit Red Wingsquoipourquoi
2New Jersey DevilsTheDevilMadeMe
3Colorado AvalancheResilientBeast
4Pittsburgh PenguinsSelfish Man
5New York IslandersHobnobs
6Edmonton Oilerspapershoes
7Calgary FlamesDeja Lu
8Montreal CanadiensBenchBrawl
9San Jose SharksRob Scuderi
10Chicago BlackhawksHawkey Town 18
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No.TeamRound 1No.TeamRound 2No.TeamRound 3No.TeamRound 4
1DETWayne Gretzky (C)11CHIJoe Sakic (C)21DETEric Lindros (C)31CHITeemu Selanne (RW)
2NJDMario Lemieux (C)12SJSAlexander Ovechkin (LW)22NJDScott Stevens (D)32SJSRob Blake (D)
3COLRay Bourque (D)13MTLPaul Coffey (D)23COLJari Kurri (RW)33MTLJarome Iginla (RW)
4PITJaromir Jagr (RW)14CGYMartin Brodeur (G)24PITSergei Fedorov (C)34CGYLuc Robitaille (LW)
5NYINicklas Lidstrom (D)15EDMAl MacInnis (D)25NYILarry Murphy (D)35EDMAdam Oates (C)
6EDMPatrick Roy (G)16NYIDoug Gilmour (C)26EDMBrett Hull (RW)36NYIPavel Datsyuk (C)
7CGYSteve Yzerman (C)17PITChris Pronger (D)27CGYBrian Leetch (D)37PITJohn LeClair (LW)
8MTLMark Messier (C)18COLPeter Forsberg (C)28MTLZdeno Chara (D)38COLPavel Bure (RW)
9SJSDominik Hasek (G)19NJDEd Belfour (G)29SJSRon Francis (C)39NJDMartin St. Louis (RW)
10CHIChris Chelios (D)20DETSidney Crosby (C)30CHIScott Niedermayer (D)40DETPatrice Bergeron (C)
No.TeamRound 5No.TeamRound 6No.TeamRound 7No.TeamRound 8
41DETPaul Kariya (LW)51CHIHenrik Zetterberg (C/LW)61DETClaude Lemieux (RW)71CHIIgor Larionov (C)
42NJDBrendan Shanahan (LW)52SJSDerian Hatcher (D)62NJDEric Desjardins (D)72SJSDan Boyle (D)
43COLDuncan Keith (D)53MTLEvgeni Malkin (C)63COLRod Brind'Amour (C/LW)73MTLRyan Suter (D)
44PITSergei Zubov (D)54CGYMark Recchi (RW)64PITDale Hawerchuk (C)74CGYVladimir Konstantinov (D)
45NYIDaniel Alfredsson (RW)55EDMMarkus Naslund (LW)65NYIGary Roberts (LW)*75EDMGary Suter (D)
46EDMMike Modano (C)56NYIPatrik Elias (LW)66EDMEsa Tikkanen (LW)76NYIErik Karlsson (D)
47CGYMats Sundin (C)57PITSergei Gonchar (D)67CGYSandis Ozolinsh (D)77PITAdam Foote (D)
48MTLMichel Goulet (LW)58COLShea Weber (D)68MTLTheoren Fleury (RW)78COLJoe Nieuwendyk (C)
49SJSMarian Hossa (RW)59NJDKeith Tkachuk (LW)69SJSJoe Thornton (C)79NJDJonathan Toews (C)*
50CHIGrant Fuhr (G)60DETJere Lehtinen (RW)70CHIIlya Kovalchuk (W)80DETCam Neely (RW)
No.TeamRound 9No.TeamRound 10No.TeamRound 11No.TeamRound 12
81DETJustin Williams (RW)91CHITeppo Numminen (D)101DETUlf Samuelsson (D)111CHIDaniel Sedin (LW)
82NJDPatrick Kane (RW)*92SJSGuy Carbonneau (C)102NJDJeremy Roenick (C)112SJSKevin Stevens (LW)
83COLVincent Damphousse (C/LW)93MTLMichael Peca (C)103COLHenrik Sedin (C)113MTLHenrik Lundqvist (G)
84PITPavol Demitra (LW)94CGYDino Ciccarelli (RW)104PITRick Tocchet (RW)*114CGYAlexander Mogilny (RW)
85NYIGlenn Anderson (RW)95EDMPhil Housley (D)105NYINiklas Kronwall (D)115EDMBrian Rafalski (D)
86EDMCorey Perry (RW)96NYICraig Ludwig (D)*106EDMShane Doan (W)*116NYIBrent Sutter (C)*
87CGYPat LaFontaine (C)97PITKirk Muller (LW)*107CGYDarryl Sydor (D)117PITJohn Madden (C)
88MTLDrew Doughty (D)98COLSteven Stamkos (C)108MTLDany Heatley (LW)118COLTim Thomas (G)
89SJSMike Ramsey (D)99NJDKevin Hatcher (D)109SJSZigmund Palffy (RW)*119NJDKimmo Timonen (D)
90CHIDenis Savard (C)100DETDarius Kasparaitis (D)110CHISteve Larmer (RW)120DETFrancois Beauchemin (D)
No.TeamRound 13No.TeamRound 14No.TeamRound 15No.TeamRound 16
121DETP.K. Subban (D)131CHITodd Bertuzzi (W)141DETValeri Kamensky (W)151CHIBrenden Morrow (LW)
122NJDPatrick Marleau (C/LW)132SJSRyan Kesler (C/RW)142NJDRyan Getzlaf (C)*152SJSPaul Reinhart (D)
123COLSteve Duchesne (D)133MTLZach Parise (LW)143COLPeter Bondra (RW)153MTLBill Guerin (RW)
124PITTrevor Linden (C/RW)134CGYDave Andreychuk (LW)144PITGlen Wesley (D)*154CGYReijo Ruotsalainen (D)
125NYIMattias Norstrom (D)135EDMBrent Seabrook (D)*145NYIMike Richter (G)155EDMAndrei Markov (D)*
126EDMBrad Richards (C)*136NYIRay Whitney (W)146EDMRyan Smyth (LW)*156NYITomas Sandstrom (W)*
127CGYDarcy Tucker (LW)137PITTom Barrasso (G)*147CGYKris Draper (C)157PITRobyn Regehr (D)*
128MTLTony Amonte (RW)138COLWendel Clark (LW)148MTLAnze Kopitar (C)158COLJay Bouwmeester (D)
129SJSAdam Graves (LW)139NJDOwen Nolan (RW)149SJSJoel Otto (C)159NJDChris Drury (C/LW)
130CHISteve Smith (D)140DETAlex Pietrangelo (D)150CHICraig Conroy (C)160DETScott Hannan (D)
No.TeamRound 17No.TeamRound 18No.TeamRound 19No.TeamRound 20
161DETManon Rheaume (G)171CHIBrian Campbell (D)181DETMatt Cooke (LW)191CHIRoman Hamrlik (D)
162NJDMathieu Schneider (D)172SJSDavid Backes (C/RW)182NJDPat Verbeek (RW)192SJSCurtis Joseph (G)*
163COLJamie Langenbrunner (RW)173MTLWade Redden (D)183COLBryan McCabe (D)*193MTLEd Jovanovski (D)*
164PITBrian Skrudland (C)174CGYVyacheslav Bykov (C)184PITDarren McCarty (RW)*194CGYJonathan Quick (G)
165NYIBob Probert (W)175EDMEric Staal (C)*185NYIHakan Loob (RW)195EDMJamie Benn (W)*
166EDMMilan Hejduk (RW)*176NYICraig Janney (C)186EDMBill Ranford (G)*196NYIRon Hextall (G)*
167CGYAlexei Yashin (C)177PITKirk Maltby (W)*187CGYDion Phaneuf (D)197PITAndy Moog (G)
168MTLIgor Liba (LW)178COLVyacheslav Kozlov (LW)*188MTLMike Vernon (G)*198COLMiikka Kiprusoff (G)
169SJSJamie Macoun (D)179NJDJohn Vanbiesbrouck (G)189SJSPatrick Sharp (LW)*199NJDKen Daneyko (D)
170CHIJohn MacLean (RW)180DETJean-Sebastien Giguere (G)190CHIRoberto Luongo (G)200DETRick Nash (LW)
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*Pick was skipped and made up at a later time
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GFS

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I don't think that forum has the patience for such a slow draft (12 hours per pick, etc.). If the mods feel that this does not belong in the ATD forum, please delete it.
 
TheDevilMadeMe

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So basically, it's a draft of every player who began his career after 1980 or so (born after 1960). Gretzky just barely makes the cut. Interesting. Could be a fun thing during "ATD off season." Of course, the traditional MLD would remain stickied.

As a draft of historical players (even recent history), it should belong on this board; I'd just be a little worried that it won't see as many eyes - assuming you are serious about running this thing, you would be allowed to post ONE ad for it on the history board - I think you could get people who want to draft players they've seen but would find the "all-time" thing intimidating.
 
TheDevilMadeMe

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To add to what I said, the ATD board really should be considered the fantasy subforum of the history board and will be treated as such by the moderators. This is a history-based fantasy draft; therefore it can go here. The traditional ATDs/MLDs, etc will be stickied to keep them separate.
 

GFS

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Thanks TheDevilMadeMe. My idea to run the draft from 1960 onwards was so I could include greats like Bourque and Gretzky, but not older players that younger members may not know.

I am serious about running this, but I will be focusing more on updating the draft table. I was hoping the members can help keep the draft running along because I am not on all the time. With a longer clock from 6-12 hours, I think this is manageable.

I am also worried about a lack of participants for this game, so I will use your permission to advertise this draft on the history forum.
 
VanIslander

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TheDevilMadeMe said:
As a draft of historical players (even recent history), it should belong on this board;
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I disagree strenuously!

It would be going down the slippery slope to the death of the drafts. This board was set up for all-time drafts not recent past drafts!

And this board has always had ONE draft at a time.
 

GFS

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VanIslander said:
:headache:

I disagree strenuously!

It would be going down the slippery slope to the death of the drafts. This board was set up for all-time drafts not recent past drafts!

And this board has always had ONE draft at a time.
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I didn't know there would be such backlash regarding this draft. I will let the moderators weigh in on the matter. I am okay if they feel it is better to cancel the draft in order to maintain the integrity of the ATD.
 
Hobnobs

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GFS said:
I didn't know there would be such backlash regarding this draft. I will let the moderators weigh in on the matter. I am okay if they feel it is better to cancel the draft in order to maintain the integrity of the ATD.
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He is just a very conservative tradiotionalist.
 
TheDevilMadeMe

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The decision has already been made by hfboards mods (and not just Hawkey Town and myself) that the ATD board is the most appropriate forum for history-based fantasy games.

Anyone who doesn't like this type of draft can refrain from clicking on the thread(s). Any further questions about the placement of other history-based fantasy drafts should be directed via PM.
 
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Hawkey Town 18

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VanIslander said:
:headache:

I disagree strenuously!

It would be going down the slippery slope to the death of the drafts. This board was set up for all-time drafts not recent past drafts!

And this board has always had ONE draft at a time.
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I think a less intimidating draft like this would draw more interest to the board and ultimately generate more participation for all drafts. Besides, what about people who don't have interest in participating in the lower drafts? I think the lower drafts are great, I follow them, and I am very impressed by the research that is done but I don't have an interest in participating. Something more casual like this does interest me. Just because 8-12 people are doing one kind of draft shouldn't mean everyone else has to sit around and wait...if there's an alternative draft then those interested should have the opportunity to pursue it.


Edit: as TDMM said, further discussion should be done via PM
 
Hawkey Town 18

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One suggestion I have is to have the GMs vote instead of the poll section or perhaps do both...would be interested to see a comparison. The historical knowledge on the polls board is not close to what the GMs have...understand that the 1980 cutoff tries to make it so most voters will have seen the players themselves but many posters on the site never saw prime Jägr let alone the guys from the 80s.

I also understand that this is suppose to be more casual so even if GMs did vote it could be done without matchup discussion threads.
 
TheDevilMadeMe

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Hawkey Town 18 said:
One suggestion I have is to have the GMs vote instead of the poll section or perhaps do both...would be interested to see a comparison. The historical knowledge on the polls board is not close to what the GMs have...understand that the 1980 cutoff tries to make it so most voters will have seen the players themselves but many posters on the site never saw prime Jägr let alone the guys from the 80s.

I also understand that this is suppose to be more casual so even if GMs did vote it could be done without matchup discussion threads.
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Could do both - could have GMs vote the same we we vote for regular season standings in the ATD; AND also put it on the polls board and compare.
 

GFS

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Thanks for clarifying things up, mods! I have decided to implement two voting systems as suggested by some of the members. We will conduct a poll and have a GM vote, so there can be two winners to this game.

For the Polls voting, I was going to place the teams into groups to determine who makes the playoffs and then we can do head-to-head matchups from there. Let's say we get 12 teams. We can maybe have 3 polls with 4 teams on each poll. The top 2 teams from each poll advances to the playoffs.

As for the GM vote, I assume there is an initial vote to determine the standings. Then we have the playoffs run based on seeding.
 
TheDevilMadeMe

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GFS said:
Thanks for clarifying things up, mods! I have decided to implement two voting systems as suggested by some of the members. We will conduct a poll and have a GM vote, so there can be two winners to this game.

For the Polls voting, I was going to place the teams into groups to determine who makes the playoffs and then we can do head-to-head matchups from there. Let's say we get 12 teams. We can maybe have 3 polls with 4 teams on each poll. The top 2 teams from each poll advances to the playoffs.

As for the GM vote, I assume there is an initial vote to determine the standings. Then we have the playoffs run based on seeding.
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Playoffs in these things are really time consuming. I'm fine if you want to have them, but I'm fine with just a GM vote for the regular season, too. Whatever.
 
tony d

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Yeah I'm not a fan of this either but whatever as long as it doesn't interfere with the main draft it's no big deal.
 
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