Speculation: Prospects oil vs flames

[hulabaluu]

Which organisation oilers or flames has the best prospects in their system at the moment?

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[Jumptheshark]

all the top oiler prospects are on the roster

redo the question

Which team have the best players 21 and under

 

[McGoMcD]

ya, really depends what you consider a prospect. Yaks, Hall, Nuge ect.. Monahan. OR like just players in the minors now.

 

[Senor Catface]

Under 21

Oilers

Prospects

Flames

 

[Aceboogie]

Under 22

Not even a close contest. Even being generous and saying Monahan could be as good as Yakupov will be in the future. That still leaves The 3 other guys for which they have no one even close

Not yet playing in the NHL (Monahan doesn't count)

Probaly a tie. JG and Gillies are two great college prospects IMO. Nurse and Klefbom are on there levels though. After that its kind of a wash, not high on Jankowski, and feel Khaira is a better prospect (atleast for the Oilers). Marincin and Wotherspoon are a wash. Marco Roy and Klimchuk seem to have similar pedigree as well

 

[McDoused]

I'm going to sound like a homer but Oilers in every single category.

If you look at the young players on the roster, it's not even close. You cant even compare Hall, RNH, Eberle, Yakupov, and Schultz to Monahan and Baertschi.

Outside the NHL, I think Nurse and Klefbom hold more value then any Flames prospect. Gaudreau, Gillies and Jankowski are their three best prospects and I doubt that any of them stick in the NHL.

 

[SWARM]

I'm going to sound like a homer but Oilers in every single category.

If you look at the young players on the roster, it's not even close. You cant even compare Hall, RNH, Eberle, Yakupov, and Schultz to Monahan and Baertschi.

Outside the NHL, I think Nurse and Klefbom hold more value then any Flames prospect. Gaudreau, Gillies and Jankowski are their three best prospects and I doubt that any of them stick in the NHL.

I don't really agree with the last post Klefbom could bust as easily as any of those three. Also Monahan is a great character guy and a great centre, in terms of face off ability and heart he's light years ahead of Nuge. Talent wise Hopkins is definitely superior but would you rather have Toews or Kane? I see Monahan as having Toews like potential, he's doing very well on a bad Calgary team.

 

[sepHF]

It's the Flames, as previously mentioned 90% of the Oilers good players under 21 are on the roster already.

 

[AlowlyMcOilersfan]

they actually have forward prospects

I think we have an edge on defence

as for goaltending, it's close

 

[missinthejets]

I don't really agree with the last post Klefbom could bust as easily as any of those three. Also Monahan is a great character guy and a great centre, in terms of face off ability and heart he's light years ahead of Nuge. Talent wise Hopkins is definitely superior but would you rather have Toews or Kane? I see Monahan as having Toews like potential, he's doing very well on a bad Calgary team.

Isn't Monahan in the 40s for face off percentage? Not sure you can point to that as a strength compared to RNH. And comparing RNH to Kane is a bad comparison too. Kane is more comparable to the wingers on the oilers, if we're going to throw out those kind of comparables for the guys how about this: would you rather have Toews or Datsyuk? Isn't that a much tougher choice?

 

[LTIR]

We have 3rd\4th pluggers for forward prospects aside from Marco Roy who has top 6 upside. CGY is ahead of us in that department.

Our Dmen > Flames D prospects.

We might have an edge in goaltending after the Bunz for LB swap.

Liking what we have even after graduation of our top end prospects. (Big 5)

 

[stratedge]

Monahan in the NHL, and Nurse not, is the reason the Oilers win this, if by in the system you mean not in the NHL. Then the Oilers are superior on their defense men but it's relatively moot.

 

[Aceboogie]

We have 3rd\4th pluggers for forward prospects aside from Marco Roy who has top 6 upside. CGY is ahead of us in that department.

Our Dmen > Flames D prospects.

We might have an edge in goaltending after the Bunz for LB swap.

Liking what we have even after graduation of our top end prospects. (Big 5)

Gillies is better than any goalie prospect we have. Hes a top 10, maybe top 5 G prospect. Would have loved to get him instead of LB

 

[Aceboogie]

I don't really agree with the last post Klefbom could bust as easily as any of those three. Also Monahan is a great character guy and a great centre, in terms of face off ability and heart he's light years ahead of Nuge. Talent wise Hopkins is definitely superior but would you rather have Toews or Kane? I see Monahan as having Toews like potential, he's doing very well on a bad Calgary team.

Toews vs Kane is a pretty bad comparison. Considering the Nuge is a good two way center. And like what was aid before, Monahan isn't a wizard on the dot. I could see the comparison being Toews Vs Datsyuk (obviously both at their peaks if they ever hit them)

Edit: didn't see the same comment a post below

Nuge also tore it up (like best starting for a rookie besides Crosby/Ovy/Malkin) in his rookie season. He had a better opening campaign on a worse Oiler team

 

[Playa Hejda]

I think the Oilers young players and prospects are better just because we've gotten to draft higher, however I think the Flames will return to the playoffs first.

 

[Fourier]

Toews vs Kane is a pretty bad comparison. Considering the Nuge is a good two way center. And like what was aid before, Monahan isn't a wizard on the dot. I could see the comparison being Toews Vs Datsyuk (obviously both at their peaks if they ever hit them)

Edit: didn't see the same comment a post below

Nuge also tore it up (like best starting for a rookie besides Crosby/Ovy/Malkin) in his rookie season. He had a better opening campaign on a worse Oiler team

I watched a lot of Monahan in Ottawa and really wanted him on the Oilers. But he has a long way to go to be Jonathan Toews. I have never felt he had that elite level in his game. My pick would be more of a Mikko Koivu who I think is a terrific player but not in the class of a Toews.

 

[thadd]

We've got the better prospects. Whether or not we do a better job of developing them into players capable of playing in the NHL is a different story.

 

[thadd]

I think the Oilers young players and prospects are better just because we've gotten to draft higher, however I think the Flames will return to the playoffs first.

Yup. Their ownership group actually cares about winning.

 

[thadd]

Toews vs Kane is a pretty bad comparison. Considering the Nuge is a good two way center. And like what was aid before, Monahan isn't a wizard on the dot. I could see the comparison being Toews Vs Datsyuk (obviously both at their peaks if they ever hit them)

Edit: didn't see the same comment a post below

Nuge also tore it up (like best starting for a rookie besides Crosby/Ovy/Malkin) in his rookie season. He had a better opening campaign on a worse Oiler team

If Nuge had the right people helping him out he could turn into a Datsuk-like character in every meaning of the term.

 

[aki]

Gaudreau is a smurf and it looks like he may be setting up to do the Justin Schultz thing. I wouldn't be shocked if the Flames are unable to sign him.

 

[MoneyGuy]

...I think the Flames will return to the playoffs first.

I don't think so. In fact, I'd bet a lot of money on the reverse happening.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Don't be homers guys. Flames prospects>Oilers prospects. That being said. Oilers 22 and under players>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Flames 22 and under players. Monahan, the Flames' best youngster, would be ranked 4/5 here.