Prospect Info: Prospects and Marlies Thread VI
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RyanOhReally
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2 years is what we'd get out of a junior player only in this case it's a 20 year old playing in the 2nd best hockey league in the world. I'm sure he's fine there, the highlights from the tourney are comforting as well.
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Leafs seemingly go off the board with a prime top 2nd round pick. Most people go 'huh?'. Then this prospect goes off and wins this MVP award a few weeks later.
Because of course he does.
Somewhere right now there is a Leafs scouting team and Shanahan smirking.
Because of course he does.
Somewhere right now there is a Leafs scouting team and Shanahan smirking.
Other than mathews korshkov was the only name I'd heard of before and that was just from watching the wjc.
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It's mind boggling that so many people hated this pick. The guy was a beast at the WJC, makes you wonder if people pay any attention at all to teams other than Canada at that tournament.
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I'm not sure people hated this pick so much as had their own favs. Kind of like when we didn't draft Konecy, and traded it to get Dermott et al. I personally wanted Tyler Benson at this spot, but I don't hate the pick. Really a coin toss.
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It's because people become too circle jerky over draft lists provided by scouting services and 'experts' before the draft.
NHL teams have completely different lists.
That's why I don't judge picks made by Mark Hunter.
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Korshkov was ranked as the 7th best Euro by central scouting and pretty much no other scouting agency had him that high.... I think this draft has changed a lot of people's mentality on "overage" draft picks.
Means our drafting staff needs to find another edge for next draft.
The folly of following draft lists.
The Leafs talked about overagers being under rated by others. You can't follow draft lists, they aren't infallible. By taking an older player the Leafs had a better glimpse into what they had with him.If you want to win at the draft you have to think outside the box, the leafs did and it is already paying dividends.
The Leafs talked about overagers being under rated by others. You can't follow draft lists, they aren't infallible. By taking an older player the Leafs had a better glimpse into what they had with him.If you want to win at the draft you have to think outside the box, the leafs did and it is already paying dividends.
Korshkov was ranked as the 7th best Euro by central scouting and pretty much no other scouting agency had him that high...
Hopefully he'll be the real deal, after watching Marner against the Big American team were he was pretty much stymied in his efforts to generate any offense or fight through traffic. Looks like the Hurricanes might have gotten the best prospect in the big Defenceman that already has a year under his belt. Many are predicting a Hall of Fame career for the Big American, at least Francis sees it that way.
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I was thinking: if we had drafted Brooks or Walker last year, we'd be gushing about their growth and I think we'll see something similar with Mattinen next year as well.
This growth, at least in players' points productions, is something teams hope to see from the 17-18 year olds they draft. I would say that NHL clubs even have a hand in giving their drafted players more favourable playing time just to see this come true. What we have with these overagers are players who have continued to get better without outside help such as favourable TOI and player development coaching from the NHL level.
At the very least, drafting guys who are 19, 20 years old have had more physical growth and mental maturity. One thing not mentioned is that these are the same guys who were passed over in their draft year but still continued to progress. Being able to fight through adversity is a good trait to have...
The entire Canadian team didn't look good. Guess none of them are going to be NHL ready.
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Menzinger
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Yep, if/when Hunter's picks start to show promise, other teams will follow suite.
Then it's up to the Leafs scouts and stats guys to figure out the next untapped advantage at the draft.s
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I'd still take Provorov or Werenski over Hanifin as likely to be he best defenders of the 2015 draft class.
I still hate missing out on Provorov, despite Marner's solid develoment. We really needed/need a D-man of that calibre.
I'll take Hanifin already has a year under his belt as an 18 year old, superb skater with size advantage. He's a stud pure and simple the whole package is what you get.
Menzinger
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He definitely had a good year, I just think his ceiling is a bit lower than the others.
The two guys I mentioned I think have the offensive ability to be a true #1 guy and I wouldn't be overly shocked if Hanifin ends up topping out as an really good #2/3.
But it's early days still.
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