Pronman's Top 155 under 23 - 2020

[Just Linda]

It is in fact a list with names on it. Not my favorite prospect racking I've seen.

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[FlyguyOX]

The Hart ranking is almost as laughable as the Howden ranking.

The Howden ranking is truly mindblowing.

 

[David Suzuki]

The idea of a journalist scout, being able to rank 155 players with any sense of accuracy is laughable lol. Why not just do a top 30 or something lol.

 

[Islay1989]

The idea of a journalist scout, being able to rank 155 players with any sense of accuracy is laughable lol. Why not just do a top 30 or something lol.

It's blatantly obvious he can't even do a top 5 right. Cale Makar, one of the best skaters in the NHL is barely a better skater than Tyson Jost according to this genius. Meanwhile, Jost's skating is barely average for a guy his size. That says it all.

 

[David Suzuki]

It's blatantly obvious he can't even do a top 5 right. Cale Makar, one of the best skaters in the NHL is barely a better skater than Tyson Jost according to this genius. Meanwhile, Jost's skating is barely average for a guy his size. That says it all.

Yeah from a Habs perspective I'm not sure why Mete or Poehling are on this list but whatever.

 

[Judas Tavares]

This place is gonna explode cause Matthews is #1.

Don't take it personally people, it's just a ranking, he didn't run over your dog (at least I hope he didn't).

 

[moropanov]

Rasmus Dahlin at #2 and Miro Heiskanen at #14? Behind Matt Tkachuk??

What an absolute joke of a list.

My top 5 would be
1. Heiskanen
2. Pettersson
3. Makar
4. Matthews
5. Q. Hughes

 

[goonybird]

This place is gonna explode cause Matthews is #1.

Don't take it personally people, it's just a ranking, he didn't run over your dog (at least I hope he didn't).

pick your battles bud

 

[Mitch nylander]

At least he got the #1 spot right...

Pretty laughable that Miro Heiskanen is 14 though, when I'd have top 5 at bare minimum.

 

[Wintersun]

I'd want Sakic fired if he traded Makar for 75% of the players above him.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Matthews in the generational/special bubble.

Quick! Check the Matthews poll for generational votes to find Pronman's burner account.

Agree that Heiskanen is too low, but Pronman's never had much appreciation for off-the-puck intelligence. So par for the course with him.

 

[Mrb1p]

Both Tkachuk are too high, Svechnikov should be like #3, Matthews should drop down to #5 or so, Makar, where is Makar ?, Heiskanen..

What a shitty list.

 

[Rob Brown]

Heiskanen, Makar and Q. Hughes too low. I don't think anyone would take J. Hughes, Kakko, Laine or the Tkachuks over them. All three are better than Dahlin, too.

Hart at 47 is an absolute joke as well.

 

[Efectzoer]

Heiskanen, Makar and Q. Hughes too low. I don't think anyone would take J. Hughes, Kakko, Laine or the Tkachuks over them. All three are better than Dahlin, too.

Hart at 47 is an absolute joke as well.

This ranking is based on their future career. Not what they have done to date.

 

[93LEAFS]

Both Tkachuk are too high, Svechnikov should be like #3, Matthews should drop down to #5 or so, Makar, where is Makar ?, Heiskanen..

What a shitty list.

Matthews should be 5? You are joking right. You know the guy 2nd in goals since he entered the league playing in the NHL when most guys are still in junior or other leagues, plays a premium position. The list has its flaws, but Matthews being at 5 is worse opinion than any ranking of this list. It's pretty clear he belongs at the spot he got.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Mukhamadullin at 125, despite him being the 57th best prospect in his pre-draft rankings tells me what I need to know re: Pronman's rigor here. Might as well just combine all the drafts and rank order by the player's draft position.

 

[bishop12]

Matthews should be 5? You are joking right. You know the guy 2nd in goals since he entered the league playing in the NHL when most guys are still in junior or other leagues, plays a premium position. The list has its flaws, but Matthews being at 5 is worse opinion than any ranking of this list. It's pretty clear he belongs at the spot he got.

No kidding....Mathew is easily #1.

 

[LeafGrief]

Matthews at #1 is obvious. After that I'd have Pettersen and Svechnikov, followed by the four of Dahlin/Heiskanen/Hughes/Makar. Makar is my favourite of the bunch, but pick your poison IMO. The next batch of Norris contenders shouldn't be down in the teens with Brady Tkachuk. Brady is going to be a damn good player, going to give the Leafs fits for years, but a winger has got to be on a whole different level to beat out the elite D of the league. I think Svechnikov will be on that level, but I don't see it the rest. Maybe you can squeeze Lafrenierre in there as well, but I won't pencil in a guy who hasn't played an NHL game yet.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Mukhamadullin at 125, despite him being the 57th best prospect in his pre-draft rankings tells me what I need to know re: Pronman's rigor here. Might as well just combine all the drafts and rank order by the player's draft position.

I also noticed that and gave me pause

 

[thrillhous]

Wait, this is a list of players under the age of 23? Because Matthews is 23.

 

[Guttersniped]

Wait, this is a list of players under the age of 23? Because Matthews is 23.

The cut off is 10/15/1997 so the 2016 Draft class is included.
Edit: fixed the date

 

[Peasy]

Both Tkachuk are too high, Svechnikov should be like #3, Matthews should drop down to #5 or so, Makar, where is Makar ?, Heiskanen..

What a shitty list.

Can I honestly hear your argument for Svechnikov and the 3 others above Matthews?

 

[93LEAFS]

The cut off is 10/15/1998 so the 2016 Draft class is included.

It's September 15th 1997, not October 15th 1998. If it was 10/15/1998 a ton of guys on this list wouldn't be on it (Matthews, Laine, M. Tkachuk, Sergachev, etc).

 

[thrillhous]

The cut off is 10/15/1997 so the 2016 Draft class is included.
Edit: fixed the date

Ok so it's not actually a ranking of U23 players, it's a ranking of players eligible for the 2016 draft and later?

 

[Guttersniped]

Ok so it's not actually a ranking of U23 players, it's a ranking of players eligible for the 2016 draft and later?

Yes, that’s why Matthews and the rest are included. There has to be a cut off point somewhere and the draft is actually how we organize players anyway.