Pronman Chooses Wahlstrom at #6 for Us - Chychrun vs Hronek/Cholowski = Toss Up

[Lovonov]

So Pronman was a guest on Craig Custance's regular podcast this week.

Pronman and Craig briefly touched on the controversial topic of the 2016 defender picks being side by side, valuing the two together. I agree with Pronman that Chychrun is probably the higher ceiling player, but Cholowski is definitely undervalued in comparison. Cholowski can skate better, but cannot match Jakob's defensive skills. Hronek could also be the dark horse winner among the 3 as far as talent and NHL success.

Pronman also chose Wahlstrom for the Wings at #6, with the top 5 going as...

1. Dahlin
2. Svechnikov
3. Zadina
4. Hughes
5. Kotkaniemi
6. WAHLSTROM

What do you guys think?

The more I wonder, the more I see Wahlstrom being the obvious choice if he is available. We have Hronek, Cholowski, Lindstrom, Hicketts, and Lindstrom. One of them will stick, and become a solid top 3 defender on our team. While I argue that the D going in the top 10 will be very elite, I think Wahlstrom will surpass them in value.

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[DInTheB]

It should be noted that Pronman wasn’t mocking Wahlstrom to us, he was just taking the stance of using his big board, who would he pick if he ran each team.

He said he still expects us to draft a D.

 

[RedWingzz]

No thanks. Wahlstrom will be a hell of a player, but if Dobson and/or Bouchard are available, you take one of them. I can only speak for myself, but I think the overall consensus around here is take Dobson/Bouchard.

As for Chychrun/Cholowski/Hronek, it's a toss-up at this point. I have a feeling Hronek will be the best of the 3 due to offensive upside. Chychrun has proven he, at minimum, can play at the NHL level. I like Cholowski, but he needs to prove something at the pro level before I put him on the same level as the other 2. I'd rank them as : 1-Hronek, 2-Chychrun, 3-Cholowski in terms of NHL ceiling, and 1-Chychrun, 2-Hronek, 3-Cholowski in terms of chances of success at the NHL level. A lot can change over the next few years.

 

[MikeyDee]

No thanks. Wahlstrom will be a hell of a player, but if Dobson and/or Bouchard are available, you take one of them. I can only speak for myself, but I think the overall consensus around here is take Dobson/Bouchard.

As for Chychrun/Cholowski/Hronek, it's a toss-up at this point. I have a feeling Hronek will be the best of the 3 due to offensive upside. Chychrun has proven he, at minimum, can play at the NHL level. I like Cholowski, but he needs to prove something at the pro level before I put him on the same level as the other 2. I'd rank them as : 1-Hronek, 2-Chychrun, 3-Cholowski in terms of NHL ceiling, and 1-Chychrun, 2-Hronek, 3-Cholowski in terms of chances of success at the NHL level. A lot can change over the next few years.

Couldn't agree with you more, unless Tkachuk is available, but I'm dreaming.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Yeah we have Hronek and Cholowski, but after that it’s real thin. I’m not sure Hicketts is an NHL defenseman, and I think Lindstrom is a bottom pairing guy.

 

[lilidk]

So Pronman was a guest on Craig Custance's regular podcast this week.

Pronman and Craig briefly touched on the controversial topic of the 2016 defender picks being side by side, valuing the two together. I agree with Pronman that Chychrun is probably the higher ceiling player, but Cholowski is definitely undervalued in comparison. Cholowski can skate better, but cannot match Jakob's defensive skills. Hronek could also be the dark horse winner among the 3 as far as talent and NHL success.

Pronman also chose Wahlstrom for the Wings at #6, with the top 5 going as...

1. Dahlin
2. Svechnikov
3. Zadina
4. Hughes
5. Kotkaniemi
6. WAHLSTROM

What do you guys think?

The more I wonder, the more I see Wahlstrom being the obvious choice if he is available. We have Hronek, Cholowski, Lindstrom, Hicketts, and Lindstrom. One of them will stick, and become a solid top 3 defender on our team. While I argue that the D going in the top 10 will be very elite, I think Wahlstrom will surpass them in value.

Wahlstrom shouldn't be higher than Dobson or Tkachuk

 

[NickH8]

If we take a winger I want Tkachuk.

 

[WesNichols14]

Pronman does not appear to think highly (or as highly) of dobson, and or bouchard. He said their is a big drop off after hughes in terms of the defenseman available.

 

[RedWingsfan55]

Ya if tkachuk is available I'd want him.

 

[NickH8]

Pronman does not appear to think highly (or as highly) of dobson, and or bouchard. He said their is a big drop off after hughes in terms of the defenseman available.

Pronman mostly looks at high end skill because he believes the goal of the draft is finding a star, and even the slightest chance of becoming one has huge value. This means guys who are more two-way players or play a simpler game usually get lower ranks than they normally would.

 

[MikeyDee]

Pronman does not appear to think highly (or as highly) of dobson, and or bouchard. He said their is a big drop off after hughes in terms of the defenseman available.

Not sure why; Hughes is younger and is less proven.

 

[TCNorthstars]

Not sure why; Hughes is younger and is less proven.

Hughes is younger than Bouchard by 6 days. Hughes is older than Dobson by just shy of 3 months. And less proven how?

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

It's that if Hughes hits, he'll be far more successful than Dobson or Bouchard if they hit.

Highest ceiling of them all.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

If we take a winger I want Tkachuk.

Yeah, I want the smart playmaker over the goal scorer. I do think Wahlstrom will be a good player though.

 

[Go Wings]

So Pronman was a guest on Craig Custance's regular podcast this week.

Pronman and Craig briefly touched on the controversial topic of the 2016 defender picks being side by side, valuing the two together. I agree with Pronman that Chychrun is probably the higher ceiling player, but Cholowski is definitely undervalued in comparison. Cholowski can skate better, but cannot match Jakob's defensive skills. Hronek could also be the dark horse winner among the 3 as far as talent and NHL success.

Pronman also chose Wahlstrom for the Wings at #6, with the top 5 going as...

1. Dahlin
2. Svechnikov
3. Zadina
4. Hughes
5. Kotkaniemi
6. WAHLSTROM

What do you guys think?

The more I wonder, the more I see Wahlstrom being the obvious choice if he is available. We have Hronek, Cholowski, Lindstrom, Hicketts, and Lindstrom. One of them will stick, and become a solid top 3 defender on our team. While I argue that the D going in the top 10 will be very elite, I think Wahlstrom will surpass them in value.

I think this list is pathetic and there is not a chance in hell that Arizona takes Kotkanami. They are loaded with young centers.

Wahlstrom would be a shit pick with Dobson and Bouchard there.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Pronman is kind of a joke. I think there is almost zero chance that only one D gets taken in the first 6 picks and that it would be Hughes out of all of them.

 

[Jon Cusack]

Pronman says he sees Wahlstrom as a 30 goal guy. We haven’t had a 30 goal scorer in 10 years. We are pretty barren of elite talent.

 

[Frk It]

Pronman is kind of a joke. I think there is almost zero chance that only one D gets taken in the first 6 picks and that it would be Hughes out of all of them.

Looks like it’s pretty much just his top 6 prospects and not a mock draft.

OP was kinda misleading, not really sure there’s anything new to discuss here.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

If we take a winger I want Tkachuk.

If Tkachuk were to fall to us at #6, I sure wouldn't be disappointed that's for sure.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

No no no. No wingers.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Pronman does not appear to think highly (or as highly) of dobson, and or bouchard. He said their is a big drop off after hughes in terms of the defenseman available.

This is almost the complete opposite of how Bob McKenzie described the scouts he polls' opinions right now. He said they have Dobson first. When he described their take on Hughes' potential, he said something like "zero defensive presence." It didn't sound very flattering.

Pronman is out to lunch, again.

 

[WingNut]

If it falls like this trade down a little and add more picks.

 

[raymond23]

I like Pronman. Not an easy person to listen to though.