Premier League 2020-2021 (Part II)

[phisherman]

Fans will come back at some point, are you just going to hire another person after.... You saved about 20K nicely done. Totally worth it and fixed Kroenke's finances. Must've been a slow year at Walmart.

At that point they can hire him back.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

At that point they can hire him back.

Nice

 

[robertmac43]

Can you find a quote that specifically says that?

I believe Ozil released some insight on that during an interview with Ornstein and the Athletic.

 

[Chimaera]

He shouldn’t take a pay cut. None of the players should. If he busted his knee and couldn’t play, they’d terminate him in a heartbeat. If they could force him to leave, or sell him for peanuts, they probably would. Players careers are only so finite.

Should they have given the contract is a different discussion entirely.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Özil making them look reeeeally embarassing.

 

[Savant]

If you choose to lay off that many employees, you should not be allowed to spend 50m on a release clause. Period.
Of course it’s not realistic but holy cow that is not ethical.

 

[phisherman]

If you choose to lay off that many employees, you should not be allowed to spend 50m on a release clause. Period.
Of course it’s not realistic but holy cow that is not ethical.

WOT?

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Özil making them look reeeeally embarassing.

Yup, what's important here is that he used the guys name in his tweet. Someone that people should not forget is that there's a person beneath the costume. It looks like its the same guy who's had the job for 27 years too. What an utter disgrace that owner is.

 

[Savant]

WOT?

Arsenal fired their entire scouting staff and their freaking mascot because they weren’t deemed essential, yet spent nine figures in the transfer market. The are owned by one of the richest people on planet earth. There is something fundamentally wrong with that. Take the jobs away from regular people because it effects Arsenal’s bottom line, yet spend more on talent. It’s wrong.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Stan Kroenke inherited $5B by getting married and the guy is concerned about paying a mascot?

The thing about all of this is as an owner, you have the right to do whatever you want with your staff. Spend your money, within legal limits, however you want.

But you don't have the right to immunity from the PR fallout of those decisions.

It's part of owning a sports franchise. There's a large part of it that's PR purely.

 

[Blender]

This is one of those situations where I'm happy that Chelsea is owned by Abramovich. Criticize how he got his money all you want, I'm probably right there with you, but through this COVID crisis no one at Chelsea lost their jobs, no one took pay cuts, and he has spent a large amount of money on hotels and food for essential workers in the community.

 

[bleedblue1223]

This is one of those situations where I'm happy that Chelsea is owned by Abramovich. Criticize how he got his money all you want, I'm probably right there with you, but through this COVID crisis no one at Chelsea lost their jobs, no one took pay cuts, and he has spent a large amount of money on hotels and food for essential workers in the community.

And now we wait for the inevitable posts that you know are coming...

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Yeah, he's a great guy funding illegal settlements. Phenomenal person.

 

[Savant]

Yeah, he's a great guy funding illegal settlements. Phenomenal person.

Billionaires are not our friends.

 

[robertmac43]

And now we wait for the inevitable posts that you know are coming...

Brace yourselves

 

[Blender]

Yeah, he's a great guy funding illegal settlements. Phenomenal person.

No one claimed he was a "great guy". His management of and treatment of Chelsea employees, as well as the local community who support the club, has been vastly superior to how Kroenke has handled this, that was the comparison.

Kroenke is hardly a "great guy" either, and is married into the Walmart family which is also not known for being great.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

No one claimed he was a "great guy". His management of and treatment of Chelsea employees, as well as the local community who support the club, has been vastly superior to how Kroenke has handled this, that was the comparison.

Kroenke is hardly a "great guy" either, and is married into the Walmart family which is also not known for being great.

I literally just shit on Kroenke and he's also the avs owner so im well versed into him.

 

[bleedblue1223]

D2M is pretty consistent on his views of owners, those aren't the posts I was referring to.

 

[Halladay]

Kroenke just got his new shiny stadium LA, he doesnt care about Arsenal. As long as he is their owner, I see Arsenal as top 4 club at best. Unless they can find a great manager who can overcome their management flaws.

 

[bluesfan94]

I don't think there's any owner that can be considered a "great guy" all things considered, but there are definitely some that are worse than others in one way or another. And one of those ways is handling the pandemic, which Kroenke gets terrible marks for.

 

[S E P H]

Meh, people praising Ozil for a publicity stunt is hilarious, this bloke is a loudmouth trying to deem that he's "right" here. I mean I am not defending any billionaire who sacked 55 people here at all, but Kroenke has always been cheap, I am pretty sure that's how he was raised in a Hick city in Missouri. I've followed the Avs and Arsenal my whole life and I know he does just enough to get by in certain elements, which isn't stadium related or making a team competitive. He's also laid off all the ushers/concession workers for the Avs and Nuggets as well and majority of those 55 are probably similar jobs for The Emirates. It isn't that Gunnersaurus is being laid off, I saw reports that he'll be hired back on when fans are allowed back in the stadium. I mean if the Governments' weren't going crazy over a virus that has a recovery rate between 97% and 99.75% - as of Aug 7, 2020 - a bit of fans should be allowed back in and a lot of people weren't going to lose jobs. I think people with money should do more from the gratitude of their heart, but you can't change a leopard's spots.

 

[phisherman]

Arsenal fired their entire scouting staff and their freaking mascot because they weren’t deemed essential, yet spent nine figures in the transfer market. The are owned by one of the richest people on planet earth. There is something fundamentally wrong with that. Take the jobs away from regular people because it effects Arsenal’s bottom line, yet spend more on talent. It’s wrong.

A player that can improve the team is more essential than a mascot.

And the scouts being fired were already planned prior to COVID because they were moving to a more analytics approach.

Yes it sucks he lost his job and Arsenal deserve the bad PR but in the end you're not paying to watch your team's mascot.

 

[Savant]

A player that can improve the team is more essential than a mascot.

And the scouts being fired were already planned prior to COVID because they were moving to a more analytics approach.

Yes it sucks he lost his job and Arsenal deserve the bad PR but in the end you're not paying to watch your team's mascot.

Sure. Nothing that you said is wrong, but that doesn’t make it ethical. You also can’t tell me that Arsenal couldn’t afford both Partey and Gunnersaurus

 

[Chimaera]

I mean, FSG would whack Mighty Red if it saved them a few bucks. I have no doubt.

They might get stick and have to retreat and rehire him, but they have no qualms about it.

 

[phisherman]

Sure. Nothing that you said is wrong, but that doesn’t make it ethical. You also can’t tell me that Arsenal couldn’t afford both Partey and Gunnersaurus

I don't think you will find any team that has done everything 100% ethical.

Of course they could afford to pay for both but they're not a charity. If there are costs that they can cut that are not deemed essential at this time then they will.