Preds score with under a second to tie it against the Panthers. Goal overturned. Interference?...

[Barrie22]

Until the whistle is blown, you can go after the puck, if the puck is anywhere in the crease and the ref has not blown the whistle, then you can go after it. It is incidental contact if Luongo got turned around. The definition of interference is making contact with someone when they do not have the puck. The puck was there. As stated before, the ref should have blew the play dead, but he didn't. Goal should have counted.

Incidental contact is still a goaltender interference. And the fact that this so called incidental contact was the reason for the goal is why it is a no goal.

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

No but playing the puck and not the goalie is very important. If arvidsson hit the puck lose from loungo (he didn't) it would be a good goal. The fact that the inly thing arvidsson did in this play was make it so loungo could not realistically play the puck the proper way is what dissalowed this goal.

Except that Luongo already played the puck without being interfered with before the puck got there. Once the puck is there and there is no whistle it is considered loose, even if it is directly under the goalies glove. It is the defenseman's responsibility to protect his goalie from a puck being jarred loose.

 

[Rebels57]

Why would this be a reason for no goal?

You cant use your stick to move the goalie.

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

You cant use your stick to move the goalie.

But you can use your stick to go after the puck.

 

[Barrie22]

Except that Luongo already played the puck without being interfered with before the puck got there. Once the puck is there and there is no whistle it is considered loose, even if it is directly under the goalies glove. It is the defenseman's responsibility to protect his goalie from a puck being jarred loose.

So you are saying it is open season on the goalie? Yeah you live in some kind of magical theory land where only you live. That is not how it works. No matter how many times you try to tell yourself that it does.

 

[Rebels57]

But you can use your stick to go after the puck.

Still cant alter goalies positioning with stick even when going for a loose puck.

 

[Korpse]

The "should have been a goal" crowd feels that Arvidsson was fishing for a loose puck, but the actions of Yandle forced him and his stick to the right, into Lu's glove and causing him to spin, resulting in the free puck underneath him to pop out.

Yandle very well may have helped Arvidsson move towards the net but he did not force Arvidsson to start digging into Luongo’s pads, Arvidsson did that on his own.

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

Still cant alter goalies positioning with stick even when going for a loose puck.

You can go after the puck until you hear the whistle blow. If you are a player and you stop playing everytime it "appears" that the goalie has it, then you will not be playing for very long in the nhl. If the puck is there then it is not interference. Simple as that.

 

[Rebels57]

You can go after the puck until you hear the whistle blow. If you are a player and you stop playing everytime it "appears" that the goalie has it, then you will not be playing for very long in the nhl. If the puck is there then it is not interference. Simple as that.

Right but you still can't push the goalie when going for a loose puck. It's always been that way. We have seen numerous goals overturned due to players pushing a goalies pad to dislodge the puck.

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

Right but you still can't push the goalie when going for a loose puck. It's always been that way. We have seen numerous goals overturned due to players pushing a goalies pad to dislodge the puck.

You can dig for the puck until there is a whistle. I would agree that you can't push the goalie into the net with the puck and expect it to be a goal. We may have seen all kinds of things ruled one way or the other, but the question/answer is; You can go after the puck if another player has it. Qoute me somewhere in the rulebook that says differently.

 

[Beezeral]

You can dig for the puck until there is a whistle. I would agree that you can't push the goalie into the net with the puck and expect it to be a goal. We may have seen all kinds of things ruled one way or the other, but the question/answer is; You can go after the puck if another player has it. Qoute me somewhere in the rulebook that says differently.

You can’t push a goalie at all if it impacts the play. This isn’t difficult.

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

You can’t push a goalie at all if it impacts the play. This isn’t difficult.

Wrong, If the puck is there you can go after it. By your logic it would be like if a skater had the puck against the boards with his skate and you jammed it loose and the skater fell down, that it would be interference...... You are wrong.

 

[Beezeral]

Wrong, If the puck is there you can go after it. By your logic it would be like if a skater had the puck against the boards with his skate and you jammed it loose and the skater fell down, that it would be interference...... You are wrong.

First, the rules are different for goalies and skaters. I would hope you know this. If not...

Second, on your example. If the puck is pinned against the boards by a player on team X, If a player on team Y knocks that puck loose by using his stick to knock over the player, NOT THE PUCK, that is called tripping. But as is well known by everyone who has more then a beginners knowledge of the game, the rules regarding contact with a goalie and a skater are different.

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

First, the rules are different for goalies and skaters. I would hope you know this. If not...

Second, on your example. If the puck is pinned against the boards by a player on team X, If a player on team Y knocks that puck loose by using his stick to knock over the player, NOT THE PUCK, that is called tripping. But as is well known by everyone who has more then a beginners knowledge of the game, the rules regarding contact with a goalie and a skater are different.

Again, You are missing the same point, the puck is there. So by your logic if the puck is anywhere, you can't go after it. Wrong.

 

[Beezeral]

Again, You are missing the same point, the puck is there. So by your logic if the puck is anywhere, you can't go after it. Wrong.

do you understand that the NHL has rules that govern how you are allowed to go after a puck?

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

do you understand that the NHL has rules that govern how you are allowed to go after a puck?

Quote me the rule.

 

[Beezeral]

Quote me the rule.

its only been posted numerous times ITT