2forsbergaura1 said:
1. i didnt mean just W.C. experience...i meant experience with the national team. there is also the OLYMPICS and other tournaments for the national team to play in
OK.
...and ovechkin, malkin and zherdev never played for the national team unless its a U20 or under. and yes, experience does count.
FYI, Ovechkin already has 17 caps for national team without exhibition games. What do you mean this time?
when ovechkin played in 1 game for the Russian national team in W.C. ... he was INVISIBLE.
He played in 2 games. And he was very good in his first game, but wasn't good enough in his second. Do you mean anything else? It's only beginning and there are already 2 mistakes in your post.
2. Tyutin on 1st pair with the RANGERS? am i supposed to be impressed?
I'm impressed a lot cause being top defender for NHL team in his first season is great. I've seen him not only at TV and I've seen his game live too. He looks very solid to me.
the Rangers also at different points in time had guys like Mironov, Ulanov, and Karpa on their first pair! the Rangers never play any DEFENSE and they are not a team i would ever go by
Well, we aren't talking about what team is a team you would ever go by in NHL.
however, its still stupid to pair him with another OFFENSIVE dman in Grebeshkov if u havent noticed, you are supposed to pair offensive dman with defensive dman...but i guess u like leetch with poti scenarios ha :lol
Really ? From where doest it go that Tjtuin is offensive defenseman or Grebeshkov? They are good at both ends. But there is no need to name offensive defenseman every guy who can carry puck across the red line. FYI, 2003 WJC team (the best i've ever seen) was loaned with a lot of "offencive" (you said) defensemen: Koltsov, Grebeshkov, Kondratiev, Tjutin and they were OK. Canadiens, that should crash them all, cause there were a lot of "offensive" (you said) defensemen, cannot do anything. So what ?
3. Afanasenkov, Chubarov and Saprykin is a checking line? They are all on the small side and Saprykin barely knows where the defensive end is while Afanasenkov cant get a regular shift with T.B.!
First, they know it better than Samsonov and Afinogenov (your lineup)
Second, if you prefer Samsonov and Afinogenov over Chubarov in terms of defensive and PK play there is something wrong or do you mean something else?
Third, Afanasenkov can not get regular shift in TB (you said) despite he played with Lecavalier some weeks, than he played as defencive specialist, was on of the MIP this year and there was that very good defensive shift against Flyers (Modin - Richards - Afansenkov), he was good at W.C too.
4."all NHL players are physical enough, I think"...now thats just FUNNY :lol guys like zherdev and datsyuk are not physical and its not their style.
Of course it's not their style, and I'm not expecting that Datsuyk will hurt someone with gigantic hit but could you post there names of guys who checked or destroyed Datsuyk in NHL. Please. I need facts.
to have someone on their line who can dig the puck out for them and keep the play alive. if u dont have guys like Zubrus and Kvasha on your team...then your team will only be able to run and gun
Yes... if you playing dump&chase or run&gun style of play than you need it. But why do you think that Frolov, Ovechkin, Saprykin and Chubarov can not do the same thing? Are you Zubrus and Kvasha fan ? I liked Zubrus performance at W.C. too but why are you so high on Kvasha? He didn't show anything spectacular and, imho, he was there only cause Yashin was there too.
Good luck with that! I mean, why do u think the Russian team went through so much trouble to make Zubrus eligible for their team? cause they know they cant win with 4 lines of finesse players
I hadn't hear about troubles. Any link?