pdd
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- Feb 7, 2010
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Are you asserting that Lidstrom is literally perfect on defense?
No; Lidstrom makes mistakes. It was more of an indication of the "best" defensive plays. And it also, in general, describes Lidstrom. Near-perfect defense, maybe.
Yup. http://www.hockey-reference.com/pla...val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=points
True, defensemen in general put up more points when Potvin played. But giving erroneous information about Lidstrom when it is easy to verify does not help your case.
I'm generally of the "Lidstrom is as underrated by the HOH board as he is overrated on the main board" school, but nobody does their case any favors when they post stats that are easily verified as wrong.
Funny...when I do the math, Lidstrom only scored 631 points not 690.
So lets try that comparison again shall we...
Potvin 700GP 770points 1.10 points per game
VS
Lidstrom 801GP 631points 0.79 points per game
Shall we do playoff scoring over the same time frame next...
Potvin 150GP 140points .93 points per game
VS
Lidstrom 132GP 102points .77 points per game
My mistake; I accidentally included Lidstrom's 2009 year. Oh well. What's done is done.
Also... Doing a straight PPG comparison is kind of silly, isn't it? It's "Let's compare one of the best offensive defensemen from the highest scoring era of hockey, when it was much easier for defensemen to score points, to an era where it was much more difficult for defensemen to score points. Both were the preeminent offensive defensemen during their prime, Lidstrom moreso than Potvin as Lidstrom dominated the position over the period despite playing a defense-first style.
It's like comparing Steve Chiasson's years before 1992-93 in Detroit to his years in Calgary. He was probably better in Calgary - he posted similar offense even though the league in general stopped scoring. He was still strong defensively. But after his 60+ point year in 92-93, he fell off the map. It's like having a really good year (92-93 All-Star and grabbing some Norris votes), and then being better than you had been but not as good as your best year causes you to disappear. Especially in 90's Calgary...