Post your own Summer 2016 Flyers prospect rankings

[Stizzle]

Since we are almost done the forum consensus prospect voting, and it's been slow here the last few days, it seems like a decent time for everyone to post there personal prospect ranking for the summer. Here is a link to the past two we have done...

Summer 2015
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1935733&highlight=

Winter 2016
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2013057&highlight=

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My personal rankings:

1- Travis Sanheim (LHD, 2014 1st rd)

2- Ivan Provorov (LHD, 2015 1st rd)

3- Phil Myers (RHD, 2015 undrafted FA)
It looks like most people want to see him have a repeat year before putting him in the upper echelon. I'm already sold. A 6'5 right-handed defenseman that can do everything. His numbers may even drop this year with the massive amount of talent Rouyn-Noranda is losing up front. We'll have to watch and see, but I'd bet his overall play keeps improving.

4- German Rubtsov (C, 2016 1st rd)
I've been watching some of his games that are on YouTube. His skating is better than I was expecting. Other than that, he seems exactly as advertised. A skilled, workhorse center, that plays in all situations.

5- Travis Konecny (RW, 2015 1st rd)
I love the guy but the injuries worry me some. It's a factor on why I'm willing to rank him lower than anyone else will. It also speaks to how highly I think of Myers and Rubtsov. Plus big, skilled 2-way centers and RHD are just flat out at a premium.

6- Samuel Morin (LHD, 2013 1st rd)

7- Pascal Laberge (RW, 2016 2nd rd)
A real coup by Hextall to trade back a few spots in the 1st, and land this pick for doing so in the early 2nd.

8- Oskar Lindblom (LW, 2014 5th rd)

9- Wade Allison (RW, 2016 2nd rd)
I'm not exactly sure what we have here with him, but it's mighty intriguing. A power forward with skill who finished the year in dominant fashion.

10- Mikhail Vorobyov (C, 2015 4th rd)
1st line center for Russia at the World Juniors this year? Yes, please.

11- Mark Friedman (RHD, 2014 3rd round)

12- Nicolas Aube-Kubel (LW, 2014 2nd round)

13- Radel Fazleev (C, 2014 6th round)
It was a true joy watching him work from bottom of the roster to big time minutes during the World Juniors last year.

14- Linus Hogberg (LHD, 2016 5th rd)
Hextall says he's there sleeper pick and I believe him. Good size and skating, one of the very youngest players in the entire draft, and scored even while playing on a really bad team.

15- David Kase (LW, 2015 5th)
I originally ranked Kase a hair higher, but dropped him because it looks like he might be stuck playing crap minutes again in the top Czech league.

16- Robert Hagg (LHD, 2013 2nd rd)
Kerry Huffman to the rescue? Hagg just hasn't shown much improvement since being drafted. I'm not writing him off. It's a huge red flag, though.

17- Cole Bardreau (C, 2015 College FA)

18- Carsen Twarynski (LW, 2016 3rd rd)

19- Taylor Leier (LW, 2012 4th rd)

17, 18, and 19 is pretty much a toss up for me. They all have there pros and cons.

Twarynski has size, athleticism, tenacity, and the most upside of the 3.

Leier can do everything pretty well. He's just small and I don't know where he ideally fits in the lineup of a true contender.

Bardreau has a lot of attributes you like to see in a smart, pain in the ass, 4th line center.

20- Mark Alt (RHD, aquired via trade from Carolina, 2010 2nd rd)
This last spot could have gone to any number of guys, but I have a soft spot for big, athletic RHD.


*Roman Lyubimov - I chose not to include for consideration because of age, experience level, and my own lack of knowledge.


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Goaltenders:

1- Anthony Stolarz (2012 2nd rd)
A high upside project that showed big strides last season.

2- Carter Hart (2016 2nd rd)
3- Felix Sandstrom (2015 3rd rd)
For two teenagers, Hart & Sandstrom seem polished as ****. Hart just turned 18 last week.

4- Matej Tomek (2015 3rd rd)
This kid isn't dead. People are forgetting what a highly regarded prospect he was before the draft.

5- Alex Lyon (2016 College FA)

6- Merrick Madsen (2013, 6th rd)
A pretty killer year from him. An interesting player who is lost in the shuffle of a stacked group of prospects in net.

7- Ivan Fedotov (2015 7th rd)

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[Curufinwe]

I will have to check how I voted.

 

[sobrien]

1.) Provorov
2.) Sanheim
3.) Konecny
4.) Rubtsov
5.) Morin
6.) Laberge
7.) Stolarz
8.) Myers
9.) Hart
10.) Sandstrom
11.) Aube-Kubel
12.) Allison
13.) Lindblom
14.) Hagg
15.) Friedman
16.) Leier
17.) Lyon
18.) Martel
19.) Vorobyov
20.) Fazleev

 

[PEI Flyers Fan]

1. Provorov
2. Sanheim
3. Konecny
4. Rubtsov
5. Morin
6. Myers
7. Laberge
8. Hart
9. Stolarz
10. Hagg
11. Lindblom
12. Aube-Kubel
13. Allison
14. Sandstrom
15. Vorobyov
16. Lyon
17. Friedman
18. Lyubimov
19. Bardreau
20. Marody
21. Madsen
22. Laczynski
23. Willcox
24. Kase
25. Salinitri (I think he's going to end up a steal)

I didn't include guys who have played NHL games. Not an easy list to make with so many good prospects.

 

[Dabest]

Ill do a top 15

1. Provorov
2. Sanheim
3. Konecny
4. Rubstov
5. Morin
6. Myers
7. Lindblom
8. Laberge
9. Vorobyov
10. NAK
11. Allison
12. Friedman
13. Hagg
14. Kase
15. Hog

 

[Rebels57]

01 - Ivan Provorov
02 - Travis Sanheim
03 - Travis Konecny
04 - Samuel Morin
05 - German Rubstov
06 - Phillipe Myers
07 - Pascal Laberge
08 - Anthony Stolarz
09 - Oskar Lindblom
10 - Wade Allison
11 - Robert Hagg
12 - Carter Hart
13 - Nicolas Aube-Kubel
14 - Felix Sandstrom
15 - Mark Friedman
16 - Mikhail Vorobyov
17 - Alex Lyon
18 - Taylor Leier
19 - Radel Fazleev
20 - Cooper Marody
21 - David Kase
22 - Linus Hogberg
23 - Tanner Laczynski
24 - Cole Bardreau
25 - Merrick Madsen

Insane depth.

 

[baudib1]

Provorov-Konecny are No. 1-2 for me.

not counting goalies, and to be honest I'd rather trade any goalie over Hagg or anyone else on this list.

I still have really really high hopes for Morin, too. Top 6 is pretty sick IMO.

1. Provorov
2. Konecny
3. Sanheim
4. Myers
5. Rubtsov
6. Morin
7. Lindblom
8. Laberge
9. Aube-Kubel
10. Allison
11. Leier
12. Friedman
13. Fazleev
14. Vorobyov
15. Hagg

 

[OriginJM]

mmmm i love lists with flyers on them

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

1. LD Ivan Provorov
2. LD Travis Sanheim
3. F Travis Konecny
4. LD Samuel Morin
5. C German Rubtsov
6. RD Phil Myers
7. W Oskar Lindblom
8. F Pascal Laberge
9. F Nicolas Aube-Kubel
10. RW Wade Allison
11. RD Mark Friedman
12. C Mikhail Vorobyov
13. F Cole Bardreau
14. LW Taylor Leier
15. LD Robert Hagg
16. C Radel Fazleev
17. W Danick Martel
18. F Cooper Marody
19. F Connor Bunnaman
20. LW Carsen Twarynski
21. F Tanner Laczynski
22. LD Linus Hogberg
23. LD David Bernhardt
24. F David Kase
25. F Samuel Dove-McFalls

1. G Anthony Stolarz
2. G Felix Sandstrom
3. G Carter Hart
4. G Alex Lyon
5. G Matej Tomek
6. G Merrick Madsen
7. G Ivan Fedotov

 

[StoneHands]

My top 10 and what I think they will become.

Provorov (#1-2 two-way beast)
Sanheim (#3-4 defenseman)
Konecny (Top line winger)
Rubtsov (#2 two-way center)
Morin (Shutdown #4 defender)
Lindblom (middle 6 "trashman" winger)
Myers (#4-5 defenseman)
Laberge (workhorse middle 6 winger)
Hagg (#5 defenseman)
Aube-Kubel (3rd line winger)


My 24 and under team:

Schenn - Couturier - Konecny
Lindblom - Rubtsov - Laberge
NAK - Laughton - Cousins
Leier - Vorobyov - Allison

Provorov - Ghost
Sanheim - Morin
Myers - Hagg
Friedman

Stolarz
Hart

 

[FLYguy3911]

My top 10 and what I think they will become.

Provorov (#1-2 two-way beast)
Sanheim (#3-4 defenseman)
Konecny (Top line winger)
Rubtsov (Middle 6 two-way center)
Morin (Shutdown #4 defender)
Lindblom (middle 6 "trashman" winger)
Myers (#4-5 defenseman)
Laberge (workhorse middle 6 winger)
Hagg (#5 defenseman)
Aube-Kubel (3rd line winger)


My 24 and under team:

Schenn - Couturier - Konecny
Lindblom - Rubtsov - Laberge
NAK - Laughton - Cousins
Leier - Vorobyov - Allison

Provorov - Ghost
Sanheim - Morin
Myers - Hagg
Friedman

Stolarz
Hart

You think a 2nd pair defenseman is more valuable than a 1st line winger?

 

[Rebels57]

You think a 2nd pair defenseman is more valuable than a 1st line winger?

At least he has Sanheim ahead of Konecny, which I feel is rightfully so.

Then again, he didn't number his selections so maybe he was going in no particular order?

 

[StoneHands]

You think a 2nd pair defenseman is more valuable than a 1st line winger?

Yes, I think a #3 that can play 20-21 minutes a night in all situations is more valuable than a 50-60 point winger playing 17-18 minutes.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Yes, I think a #3 that can play 20-21 minutes a night in all situations is more valuable than a 50-60 point winger playing 17-18 minutes.

That would mean Streit is a more valuable player than Schenn. I don't think many would agree.

 

[StoneHands]

That would mean Streit is a more valuable player than Schenn. I don't think many would agree.

Well, that's what opinions are for, no? Also, we're not talking about a washed up 38 year old defenseman that's only a #3 because he plays on a bad defense. How about guys like Shattenkirk or Hjalmarsson? They don't hold as much value as Schenn?

 

[Magua]

Well, that's what opinions are for, no? Also, we're not talking about a washed up 38 year old defenseman that's only a #3 because he plays on a bad defense. How about guys like Shattenkirk or Hjalmarsson? They don't hold as much value as Schenn?

I think both Shattenkirk and Hjalmarsson are both firm #2s

 

[FLYguy3911]

Well, that's what opinions are for, no? Also, we're not talking about a washed up 38 year old defenseman that's only a #3 because he plays on a bad defense. How about guys like Shattenkirk or Hjalmarsson? They don't hold as much value as Schenn?

Shattenkirk and Hjalmarsson aren't #3 defenseman by your guidelines or most people's opinions.

The point I was trying to make is if you think Sanheim is the 2nd best prospect in the system. and project him to be a 3rd or 4th defenseman in the NHL, you are either underselling him or overvaluing Konecny. If you do not think so. it probably makes more sense to place Konecny above Sanheim. Second pair defensemen aren't all that hard to find. First Line players are.

 

[StoneHands]

I think both Shattenkirk and Hjalmarsson are both firm #2s

OK, then Seabrook and JBo. Even guys like Gardiner, Vatanen, Braun, and Spurgeon for example.

Anyway, my point was that I see Sanheim as a 2nd pairing guy on the Flyers who are likely going to have a logjam on defense. Maybe he could be a low end #2 on another team. I put 1st line winger for Konecny but I don't think he's going to be a top 10 winger or anything like that, it's just that the FLyers aren't exactly stacked with stars in that position. #3 defenseman that can play in all situations are really valuable players.

 

[Stizzle]

You think a 2nd pair defenseman is more valuable than a 1st line winger?

I think both Shattenkirk and Hjalmarsson are both firm #2s

I will have to check how I voted.

*Ahem* Some valued posters in this thread still haven't released there lists yet.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I expect we'll lose a few guys to graduation heading into next summer. You also have some where they need to show something this year or will lose stock. So some shuffling will result by default. However I got Vorobyov & Bunnaman as my potential big risers this year heading into next summer.

 

[Magua]

Skaters:

1- Ivan Provorov
Surprise.

2- Travis Sanheim
Surprise.

3- Travis Konecny
Surprise!

4- Phil Myers
I am enamored with his game. Just has the ability to be dominant in all 3 zones, though he's still a bit thin and could work on his strength and conditioning. A lot of people probably view him like Morin, but I don't see it. Closer to Sanheim if anything. Better skater and more fluid than Sam imo, and his pucks skills are at a different level. Howitzer of a shot too, and he loves to shoot often. At times can get overzealous and do too much, but he seems so smart out there that I think it's just some growing pains after being viewed as a nothing 3rd pair shutdown guy. He really is a 3-zone player, and while he needs to prove himself not a 1-hit wonder, his style game is everything top defensemen in the NHL are about. He probably gets compared to Lauzon too b/c he's the higher touted prospect and scores more, but when Myers was on the ice it wasn't close who controlled the flow of the game.

5- German Rubtsov
I'm a sucker for 3-zone, mentally elite players with skill to boot.

6- Samuel Morin
I can't really rate him lower because w/ his size, skating, competitiveness, and underrated hockey IQ, he could be good. But I am a bit lower on him than most.

7- Oskar Lindblom
*See Rubtsov (Plus everything he's done in the SHL, the WJC, the AHL...and this was only his age 19 season!)

8- Pascal Laberge
Oozes skill, but needs to improve his all-around game and shoot more. I also think he needs some work on his first few strides. It's all about the skill with Pascal though, and he showed big strides in the 2nd half in a tough, tough year for him. I was really hoping Hexy would target some oozing skill forwards, and while I wish we aimed for more mid-rounds, players like Laberge are what this team needs. Also, I remember watching the blowout by Team USA at the u18s before the draft, and Pascal was running around late just hitting everything that moved, and I thought, "What a hothead." But he definitely has snarl, and now he's OUR hothead haha. He's definitely a Flyer-type.

9- Wade Allison
Prolific shot numbers and a great shot. Plenty of guys have the latter and not the former -- the former is what makes great snipers. I think his skating is better than advertised too, with room to work of course. What he did the second half of the year+ was amazing. He really could be a PWF with the rare size and skill package. I'm curious what his year will look like on a crappy college team.

10- Mark Friedman
Still was the youngest starter on his team this year and finished 1 point off of 3rd on team in scoring. Raw numbers held back by playing on a poor offensive team. Really smart, aggressive, top notch offensive player. RHD too.

11- Nicolas Aube-Kubel
Needs 2-way work, and it was a bit disappointing he just matched last year's numbers. Skilled though w/ scoring ability.

12- Mikhail Vorobyov
I'll trust the Flyers scouts having him as a 2nd round talent. WJC will be a fun coming out party hopefully.

13- Danick Martel
Size is always the knock. Finished his junior career as a First-Team All-Star just shy of 50 goals. Comes into the AHL and leads the Phantoms in goals and finishes 5th in AHL among rookie scoring leaders, on a very poor Phantoms team too. Hope he has a big year. I know he can get compared to the Weals and Akesons, but he has exactly what they lack(ed): skating ability and/or grit. Very boom/bust though.

14- Cooper Marody
Finishes 6th in USHL p/pg scoring his draft year behind some big names....goes in the 6th round. Has a real solid freshman year, even though he's buried on the 3rd line, especially behind that mega line. He definitely came into college on the scrawny side, got mono this year which messed with him, but he could put up big points with juicier usage. Track record is there.

15- Taylor Leier
Tony the Phantoms beat raves about his game. I'm still unsure of his ceiling, but his skating and 2-way should play nicely. Very good sophomore year too leading a **** Phantoms team.

16- Radel Fazleev
Just a smart, savvy player. Hakstol would call him "reliable."

17- Linus Hogberg
The potential is there for a huge late round home run. The fact that he came out of nowhere for a 5th round pick and Hexy seemed happy to say he's their "sleeper" gives me confidence. Super young for his year (it was almost his D-1 year!), yet he produced stellar numbers on one of the worst SuperElit teams in the league. Will be interesting to see him if he makes his SHL team.

18- Robert Hagg
His game just bothers me, even though he's got the tools. Passivity on the backend is just a huge concern in today's NHL. But with Hagg, there's always that hope it can click...

19- David Kase
Ready to jump up at any time, but Jesus, he feels like a total mystery outside the WJCs, where his skills and pit bull tendencies made themselves apparent. His development has been a flat out mess for a player of his physical immaturity and great skills, and he'd be way more touted right now if he'd have just come over to play in the OHL. God damn it, David. You couldn't stop eating mama's cooking?

20- Cole Bardreau
Surprisingly good year in the AHL, but he's also 23 and a physical specimen. I still really like him as a TRUE 4th line player with some skills to boot, but his ceiling doesn't impress me enough to rate him higher.


[I'm not including Lyubimov either b/c I don't think he's a prospect]


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Goaltenders:

1- Anthony Stolarz
Most raw talented? Probably not. But with his overall package and just being named an AHL All-Star, seems unfair to place him anywhere but #1 for now.

2- Felix Sandstrom
Future Head & Shoulders Swedish spokesperson

3- Carter Hart
Future network personality

4- Alex Lyon
Augustus is really your middle name?

5- Matej Tomek
Not even good enough to be UND's club hockey goalie!

6- Merrick Madsen
Mortal enemy of Jimmy Vesey

7- Ivan Fedotov
Colossus

 

[Maurice of Orange]

My Top 25 Flyers prospects list.
1. LD Provorov WHL Brandon or NHL Philadelphia
2. RW Konecny OHL Sarnia or NHL Philadelphia
3. LD Sanheim AHL Lehigh Valley
4. LD Morin AHL Lehigh Valley
5. C Rubtsov MHL Team Russia U18
6. RD Myers QMJHL Rouyn-Noranda
7. RW Aube-Kubel AHL Lehigh Valley
8. LW Lindblom SHL Brynäs IF
9. C Laberge QMJHL Victoriaville
10. RD Friedman NCAA Bowling Green State U
11. LW Leier AHL Lehigh Valley
12. RW Allison NCAA Western Michigan U
13. F Lyubimov AHL Lehigh Valley or NHL Philadelphia
14. C Vorobyov KHL Salavat Yulayev Ufa
15. LD Hagg AHL Lehigh Valley
16. RW Fazleev AHL Lehigh Valley
17. C Bardreau AHL Lehigh Valley
18. C Weal AHL Lehigh Valley or NHL Philadelphia
19. C Bunnaman OHL Kitchener
20. C Martel AHL Lehigh Valley
21. LW Twarynski WHL Calgary
22. C Marody NCAA Michigan U
23. C Laczynski NCAA Ohio State U
24. RD Alt AHL Lehigh Valley
25. RD Wilcox AHL Lehigh Valley

The rest of the prospects that play Forward or Defense
RD Hogberg SHL Växjö
LW Dove-McFalls QMJHL Saint John
RW Straka AHL Lehigh Valley
LD Vasiliev KHL Omsk Avangard
C Salinitri OHL Sarnia
LD Bernhardt SHL Djurgårdens IF
RW Kase Czech Jr. Chomutov Pirati
LW Goulbourne AHL Lehigh Valley
RD Pettersson ECHL Reading
RD Amorosa NCAA Clarkson U
LD Drake NCAA Connecticut U

Forward and defensive prospects that are under contract with Lehigh Valley AHL
RD Lamarche*
LW Swavely*
C Sundher*

My Top Goalie's prospects list.
G Stolarz AHL Lehigh Valley
G Lyon AHL Lehigh Valley
G Hart WHL Everett
G Sandstrom SHL Brynäs IF
G Madsen NCAA Harvard U
G Tomek NCAA U of North Dakota
G Fedotov KHL Salavat Yulaev Ufa

Goalie Prospect that is under contract with Lehigh Valley AHL
G Ouellette* ECHL Reading

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Not saying he'll make the NHL for sure but Martel is more similar to a guy like Sheary than he is to Cousins, Weal, Akeson, etc. He's got some good wheels & goal scoring ability to go along with his grit. So he's got a chance here. As far as forwards go he's in that group with Leier, Bardreau, Goulbourne, etc. who have a lot riding on this upcoming year down there.

 

[BillDineen]

1. LD Ivan Provorov
2. LD Travis Sanheim
3. F Travis Konecny
4. LD Samuel Morin
5. C German Rubtsov
6. RD Phil Myers
7. W Oskar Lindblom
8. F Pascal Laberge
9. F Nicolas Aube-Kubel
10. RW Wade Allison
11. RD Mark Friedman
12. C Mikhail Vorobyov
13. F Cole Bardreau
14. LW Taylor Leier
15. LD Robert Hagg
16. C Radel Fazleev
17. W Danick Martel
18. F Cooper Marody
19. F Connor Bunnaman
20. LW Carsen Twarynski
21. F Tanner Laczynski
22. LD Linus Hogberg
23. LD David Bernhardt
24. F David Kase
25. F Samuel Dove-McFalls

1. G Anthony Stolarz
2. G Felix Sandstrom
3. G Carter Hart
4. G Alex Lyon
5. G Matej Tomek
6. G Merrick Madsen
7. G Ivan Fedotov

I agree with your top 15 skaters. Very good list.

I don't value goalie draft position, only development, so for me:

1. Stolarz
2. Lyon
3. Sandstrom
4. Madsen
5. Hart
6. Fedotov
7. Tomek

 

[Hockeypete49]

1.Provorov 1.Stolarz
2.Sanheim 2.Hart
3.Konecny 3.Sandstorm
4.Morin 4.Lyon
5.Rubtsov 5.Tomek
6.Myers 6.Madsen
7.Laberge 7.Fedotov
8.Aube-Kubel
9.Linblom
10.Allison
11.Friedman
12.Vorobyov
13.Fazleev
15.Hagg
16.Leier
17.Twarynski
18.Alt
19.Bardreau
20.Kase

18,19,20 I am just putting down names at this point in their careers. I really like our prospect pool and am excited with all the talent we have in net. Hopefully we hit on a few.

PS: Do not know why the lists keep bunching together?