Exactly. What Hemsky needs is a heart transplant. He doesn't compete, doesn't battle, doesn't play to his potential and won't suddenly be a superstar because a better player is on his line. He has to bring it himself and, if after 10 years he hasn't done it, he never will.
... if he is 100% healthy.
... if they all stay healthy.
Not just singling your comments out but that's what we've been saying about the Oilers for years... and they never are.
This year though they seem to be relatively healthy finally (at least for now) and likely have more talent on the roster than in many years so I hope the injury demons can mostly stay away over the next 4 dozen games so we don't actually have to wonder how they would have done if they'd have stayed healthy.
Anybody with two eyes and a brain realizes that this is simply not true.
If you really believe that Hemsky battles and competes then his problem must be a lack of talent. It that guy is going all out to produce such mediocre results, he is not a very good hockey player.
If you really believe that Hemsky battles and competes then his problem must be a lack of talent. It that guy is going all out to produce such mediocre results, he is not a very good hockey player.
If you really believe that Hemsky battles and competes then his problem must be a lack of talent. It that guy is going all out to produce such mediocre results, he is not a very good hockey player.
If you really believe that Hemsky battles and competes then his problem must be a lack of talent. It that guy is going all out to produce such mediocre results, he is not a very good hockey player.
Hemsky led this team in scoring the following years:
05-06
06-07
07-08
08-09
He has 22pts in 22GP in 09-10 and 42pts in 47GP the year after.
Take away the last year and the results arent very mediocre. Hemsky battles\competes hard ..He wouldnt be a great player if he didnt.
So, do any of you Hemsky fan boys actually watch him play?
Leading a team of crap players in scoring isn't much of an accomplishment. Mel Bridgman led the NJ Devils in scoring in 1983-84 and in 1984-85. Is he a great player?
The guy coughs up the puck a ton and does not lead a team. He is an extra part - a decent 2nd liner. Too many of you were so starved for talent on this team over the past 6 years that you cling to Hemsky as a star. You overrate him because we didn't have anything better for so long. Those days are over, we can now see him for what he really is.
A decent 2nd liner, a spare part that coughs up the puck a lot and makes very little difference to the W/L totals of this team whether he is in the lineup or not.
So, do any of you Hemsky fan boys actually watch him play?
Leading a team of crap players in scoring isn't much of an accomplishment. Mel Bridgman led the NJ Devils in scoring in 1983-84 and in 1984-85. Is he a great player?
The guy coughs up the puck a ton and does not lead a team.
He is an extra part - a decent 2nd liner. Too many of you were so starved for talent on this team over the past 6 years that you cling to Hemsky as a star. You overrate him because we didn't have anything better for so long. Those days are over, we can now see him for what he really is.
A decent 2nd liner, a spare part that coughs up the puck a lot and makes very little difference to the W/L totals of this team whether he is in the lineup or not.
So, do any of you Hemsky fan boys actually watch him play?
Leading a team of crap players in scoring isn't much of an accomplishment. Mel Bridgman led the NJ Devils in scoring in 1983-84 and in 1984-85. Is he a great player?
The guy coughs up the puck a ton and does not lead a team. He is an extra part - a decent 2nd liner. Too many of you were so starved for talent on this team over the past 6 years that you cling to Hemsky as a star. You overrate him because we didn't have anything better for so long. Those days are over, we can now see him for what he really is.
A decent 2nd liner, a spare part that coughs up the puck a lot and makes very little difference to the W/L totals of this team whether he is in the lineup or not.
So, do any of you Hemsky fan boys actually watch him play?
Leading a team of crap players in scoring isn't much of an accomplishment. Mel Bridgman led the NJ Devils in scoring in 1983-84 and in 1984-85. Is he a great player?
The guy coughs up the puck a ton and does not lead a team. He is an extra part - a decent 2nd liner. Too many of you were so starved for talent on this team over the past 6 years that you cling to Hemsky as a star. You overrate him because we didn't have anything better for so long. Those days are over, we can now see him for what he really is.
A decent 2nd liner, a spare part that coughs up the puck a lot and makes very little difference to the W/L totals of this team whether he is in the lineup or not.
Horcoff shouldnt have been overworked.. Smyth is good on the draws and Belanger couldve been given some PP time if the kids couldnt win a faceoff. I bet Horcoff wanted\demanded the PP time ..
Hemsky gets so underrated on these boards, it's hilarious. By the way you hear people talk about him, you would assume he is about the same as Omark.
Let's take a look at some stats for a moment.
05-06:81GP-77PTS
06-07:64-53
07-08:74-71
08-09:72-66
09-10:22-22
10-11:47-42
11-12:69-36
He plays at nearly a point per game pace in every single season except one. In each of those seasons too, if you were to take a look at his line mates then compare those to the lines people of similar stats played on, you would see Hemsky has had some pretty terrible people to pass to.
Yes, it's fair to admit that injury concerns are an issue, however the idea of a person having a trait that makes them injurable are way overblown on HF, it really does boil down to luck moreso than anything else (not saying it's 100% luck, just that people link injuries to a player far too much). There is absolutely no denying that when Hemsky is 100% healthy, he is a force on the ice. Hemsky this season is 100% healthy. He may not get PPG numbers still, as he is starting to reach that age in which players regularly decline, but it is not unreasonable to expect that he will put up numbers that (in an 82 game season, don't feel like doing the math to convert to a shortened season) would be around 50-60 points. Considering he is going on 30, and will most likely be playing 2nd line minutes, those are very good numbers. Last season seems to have been more of an anomaly than the norm.
I can't stand posting on here very often. But this is an awfully big load of B.S. Clearly no team has need of decent second liners that score close to a PPG when healthy. This is all just rubbish. Hemksy might have been a middling 1st liner but if you can put Hemsky on line two when he's healthy the team is boasting considerable firepower.
As for the coughs up the puck a lot argument. Didn't this get resolved years ago? If you carry the puck more than your other teammates doesn't it stand to reason you will have more giveaways?
This is why I question if people watch him play. Look at the giveaways, they are embarrassing gaffes. People like to just dismiss this as no big deal because he carries the puck - look at the embarrassing giveaways costing us chances and giving chances to the other team. They are really bad.
Honestly, last year he seemed to get a handle on that somewhat but then, stopped scoring. His value is lower than so many people think. We should have unloaded him before the rest of the league realized that.