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Possible reason DiGI hasn't been resigned yet
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You are absolutely right. I didn't even see that it listed that part, I just went through and counted the players not knowing that Bean and Kuokkanen didn't count against the 50. Rookie mistake... Thanks!
NotOpie
"Puck don't lie"
Not sure a two way contract would matter greatly. PDG only has a handful of NHL games left to play before he becomes waiver eligible. Now maybe you're right and the hold up is the two way assuming that we send him down right at the season's start. But that seems a pretty weak argument over what's likely to be less than an $825K contract. Who knows...
Joe McGrath
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Anton Babchuk
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Or maybe he clears waivers and they don't want to be stuck paying an NHL salary in the AHL? I'm not sure he's valued all that much around the league. Guys like him have cleared waivers with regularity in the past.
sheriff bart
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Cardiac Jerks
Asinine & immoral
Roboturner913
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I said it a week or two ago right after they signed McGinn and not him, I think PDG's time grows short. He'll likely be back in the AHL on a two-way deal. We have 21/23 NHL roster spots filled, we pretty much know one of the two remaining will go to Fleury. You can bet your bottom dollar they're wanting that last spot to be filled by a rookie forward, Wallmark, Zykov, whoever. PDG is the backup plan, and not a bad one, but the odds are against him at this point, IMO. Wallmark is the more versatile/better offensive player and Zykov is a better physical/energy player. Either one easily beats him out, again JMO.
NotOpie
"Puck don't lie"
First, I don't think there's any way he passes through waivers, but if he's sent down without playing any more NHL games, I think he remains waiver exempt....and now that I think of it, there's the likely rub.
I don't want any of Wallmark, Zykov, etc. sitting in the pressbox in Raleigh. I would think the team feels similarly. PDG, on the other hand, doesn't have much more to prove in Charlotte (don't get me wrong he could still see an advantage to time there) and having him as a #13 or #14 isn't as great of a waste of development time.
All of this said, he likely ends up being a small add in a potential deal unless he just blows the doors off in camp.
sheriff bart
Where are the white women at
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Meh
I think most likely scenario is this one - #13-#14 forward, or add for a trade.
I would not mind sending him back to AHL though
tarheelhockey
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In the absence of real information, we are free to speculate about the reason for a holdup in negotiations.
I say it's because he finds Jeff Skinner kind of creepy and isn't really sure he wants to be in an organization with him.
I say it's because he finds Jeff Skinner kind of creepy and isn't really sure he wants to be in an organization with him.
Vagrant
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Cap Friendly has PDG as being waiver eligible for the upcoming season. They have him as having accrued one of the two eligibility milestones, which is 3 completed seasons. Due to the age at which he signed his first contract, his waiver clock started in the 14-15 season. Players that sign their first ELC at 20 or older get a waiver eligibility year accrued even if they only play 1 game. The 3 games he played in 13-14 didn't count towards his number, but it started in 14-15 as a 20 year old in the AHL and last year was his final year of exemption. Per my understanding, the games played threshold and the accrued seasons threshold are an either/or situation.
I think the incentive to pay him really strong AHL money isn't there for the club because he either gets claimed or he doesn't. If he gets claimed you obviously have no investment in the player and his AHL salary is pointless. But if he clears, you're still on the hook for the cash. Carolina really doesn't have a lot to gain by compensating him with a high AHL salary or guaranteed minimum. They don't *need* him down there, and the chances of losing him seem at least 50/50. Plus, the normal threats you're negotiating against are mitigated in this scenario because PDG and his agent have to suspect there's a chance he's claimed as well, which would obviously be the most lucrative outcome for him financially as opposed to fielding offers in Europe. If he doesn't make the Hurricanes, he could easily get claimed and still play in the NHL next season. It's a really really weird spot to negotiate for both sides.
I think the incentive to pay him really strong AHL money isn't there for the club because he either gets claimed or he doesn't. If he gets claimed you obviously have no investment in the player and his AHL salary is pointless. But if he clears, you're still on the hook for the cash. Carolina really doesn't have a lot to gain by compensating him with a high AHL salary or guaranteed minimum. They don't *need* him down there, and the chances of losing him seem at least 50/50. Plus, the normal threats you're negotiating against are mitigated in this scenario because PDG and his agent have to suspect there's a chance he's claimed as well, which would obviously be the most lucrative outcome for him financially as opposed to fielding offers in Europe. If he doesn't make the Hurricanes, he could easily get claimed and still play in the NHL next season. It's a really really weird spot to negotiate for both sides.
NotOpie
"Puck don't lie"
Vagrant, it was unclear to me whether he had met the 1st milestone, so I was using the 2nd one. In either case, I think your argument still is valid. PDG is in a difficult negotiating position and the team is in a player personnel quandry. They seem to have determined that McGinn has as much or more upside, or at the very least, fits their plans better. One has to wonder if active trade negotiations involving DiGiuseppe are going on. Unfortunately, he hasn't really earned much value via his NHL play. His lack of a waiver extension seems to be something of a barrier to teams that might be interested in acquiring him. He'd essentially have to play in the NHL somewhere.
