Points Streaks

[golfortennis]

(hoping this does not jinx Crosby's streak....)

With Crosby hitting 20 games, I tried to find the listing of longest streaks, but I'm not having the best of luck. I know Gretzky's record, Lemieux's 46, and I believe Lafleur had the previous record before Gretzky with 28.

Does someone have a list of the longest streaks? When does Crosby reach rarified air of historic streaks?

Click to read more...

 

[member 83027]

Longest consecutive point-scoring streak

51 games - Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton, 1983-84. 61g-92a-153pts.
46 games - Mario Lemieux, Pittsburgh, 1989-90. 39g-64a-103pts.
39 games - Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton, 1985-86. 33g-75a-108pts.
30 games - Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton, 1982-83. 24g-52a-76pts.
- Mats Sundin, Quebec, 1992-93. 21g-25a-46pts.
28 games - Guy Lefleur, Montreal, 1976-77. 19g-42a-61pts.
- Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton, 1984-85. 20g-43a-63pts.
- Mario Lemieux, Pittsburgh, 1985-86. 21g-38a-59pts.
- Paul Coffey, Edmonton, 1985-86. 16g-39a-55pts.
- Steve Yzerman, Detroit, 1988-89. 29g-36a-65pts.


http://hfboards.com/archive/index.php/t-428083.html

 

[revolverjgw]

Sundin sticks out like a sore thumb

 

[Scott1980]

Is it unofficially 60 games for Gretzky? Or perhaps 54 games?

The reason I say this is Gretzky DID get at least one point in the last 9 games of the 82/83 season plus the first 51 of 83/84. But I know to be official it's got to be in one season.

Gretzky also got a point in the last 3 games of the 82/83 SCF.

85/86, Gretzky was held off the scoresheet on Nov 1 vs Buf, Jan 27 vs Chi, Mar 11, vs Min. Other than that, WOW! Then he got a point in ALL ten playoff games!

 

[shazariahl]

Longest consecutive point-scoring streak

51 games - Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton, 1983-84. 61g-92a-153pts.
46 games - Mario Lemieux, Pittsburgh, 1989-90. 39g-64a-103pts.
39 games - Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton, 1985-86. 33g-75a-108pts.
30 games - Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton, 1982-83. 24g-52a-76pts.
- Mats Sundin, Quebec, 1992-93. 21g-25a-46pts.
28 games - Guy Lefleur, Montreal, 1976-77. 19g-42a-61pts.
- Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton, 1984-85. 20g-43a-63pts.
- Mario Lemieux, Pittsburgh, 1985-86. 21g-38a-59pts.
- Paul Coffey, Edmonton, 1985-86. 16g-39a-55pts.
- Steve Yzerman, Detroit, 1988-89. 29g-36a-65pts.


http://hfboards.com/archive/index.php/t-428083.html

Gretzky actually set two records with that point streak. 1 for longest point streak, and 1 for longest point streak from the start of the season, since it began in game 1. Both are listed as official records on wikipedia.

 

[TheStranger]

And he also amassed more points in those 51 games then we'll ever seen an NHL player score again in our lifetimes. Hell I'll include playoffs.

 

[swissexpert]

Wow, thats exactly 3 points per game!

 

[Rhiessan71]

Wow, thats exactly 3 points per game!

Yeah, it was beyond description at the time, simply ridiculous.

To put it in perspective...he could of not played the remaining 28 games after the streak ended and still walked away with the Art Ross by 27 points
More like 32 actually because Coffey was #2 and it's a good bet he would lost at least 5 points without Gretzky for those 28 games. Goulet was #3 with 121.

 

[King Mapes]

And he also amassed more points in those 51 games then we'll ever seen an NHL player score again in our lifetimes. Hell I'll include playoffs.

Crosby this season

He actually should if you do include playoffs.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Yeah, it was beyond description at the time, simply ridiculous.

To put it in perspective...he could of not played the remaining 28 games after the streak ended and still walked away with the Art Ross by 27 points
More like 32 actually because Coffey was #2 and it's a good bet he would lost at least 5 points without Gretzky for those 28 games. Goulet was #3 with 121.

That's just dumbfounding.

 

[seventieslord]

Sundin sticks out like a sore thumb

yeah, and not because he's "just" Sundin, but because he's the only player to do it past 1990.

 

[TheStranger]

Crosby this season

He actually should if you do include playoffs.

"Should"? Would be nuts if he got to 130 in the reg. season, and he;d have to put up nearly 30 more in the playoffs. Possible if they win the cup, with 4, 6 game series, but definitely not.."Should happen"

 

[Rhiessan71]

"Should"? Would be nuts if he got to 130 in the reg. season, and he;d have to put up nearly 30 more in the playoffs. Possible if they win the cup, with 4, 6 game series, but definitely not.."Should happen"

Yeah, he could do it but remember we're talking about Crosby doing in 110+ games what Gretzky did in 51

 

[Big Phil]

And he also amassed more points in those 51 games then we'll ever seen an NHL player score again in our lifetimes. Hell I'll include playoffs.

I'd hold off on that for now. We are witnessing a pretty incredible season from Crosby as we speak. I was once told by RedLeader (I never see him around these boards anymore) that my projection that Crosby could score 150 points in a season gave him reason to say that from then on my opinions were completely irrelevant from his perspective. I kind of chuckled even at that time because he was so young and had just come off a 120 point season as a teenager. Right now we are seeing a season where his pace has gone from the 130-140 range with each game. He's right in that neighbourhood and it seems everytime we doubt him he proves us wrong.

Anyway as for the point streak I know it could end any time but I truly think he'll hit at least 30 games. It'll be fun to watch anyway because we love streaks as sports fans. Being at 20 games right now and a large break until his next game means he'll be fresh.

 

[golfortennis]

yeah, and not because he's "just" Sundin, but because he's the only player to do it past 1990.

I was actually going to ask if anyone knew what the longest streak since the dead-puck era started was. Crosby is definitely approaching that number most likely.

I guess the question I forgot to ask was how many times even 20 games has been reached?

 

[golfortennis]

Yeah, it was beyond description at the time, simply ridiculous.

To put it in perspective...he could of not played the remaining 28 games after the streak ended and still walked away with the Art Ross by 27 points
More like 32 actually because Coffey was #2 and it's a good bet he would lost at least 5 points without Gretzky for those 28 games. Goulet was #3 with 121.

Back in those days, Edmonton played opposite Toronto a lot, and so those of us in Ontario rarely got Edmonton games. It was a *very* big deal the night he had the streak broken. I was almost 9 at the time, and I remember fighting with my mom because she wanted me to go to bed, and I heard they were going to talk to Gretzky and I wanted to stay up and watch it.

You are getting into the realm of national security or epidemic to match just how big a story it was that his streak got snapped.

 

[kaiser matias]

I was actually going to ask if anyone knew what the longest streak since the dead-puck era started was. Crosby is definitely approaching that number most likely.

I guess the question I forgot to ask was how many times even 20 games has been reached?

NHL.com had a story on this on Wednesday:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=546484

Single-season point streaks of 20+ games since 1990-91
20 Crosby, Sidney, PIT 11/05/2010 12/15/2010 (active)
20 Stastny, Paul, COL 02/03/2007 03/17/2007
22 Heatley, Dany, OTT 10/05/2005 11/29/2005
20 Oates, Adam, BOS 01/07/1997 02/20/1997
21 Oates, Adam, BOS 03/04/1993 04/14/1993
30 Sundin, Mats, QUE 10/08/1992 12/10/1992
25 Hull, Brett, STL 11/28/1991 01/23/1992
25 Gretzky, Wayne, LAK 02/08/1991 03/28/1991

 

[TheGoldenJet]

yeah, and not because he's "just" Sundin, but because he's the only player to do it past 1990.

True. 1992-93 was an 80s year in disguise.

 

[reckoning]

For some reason it looks like they only count streaks if all the games were in the same season, as some of the ones listed earlier started at the beginning of the season even though the players had some games with points at the end of the previous year.

The only official NHL record for points streaks that carries over from season-to-season is the playoff one. I know Bryan Trottier used to hold it, but I'm not sure if he still does or how many games it was.

These streaks are probably the most exciting records to follow for fans. It's not like breaking a scoring record where you know it'll happen eventually. With the streak, it's over with one bad game; so that makes every game leading closer to the record more and more suspenseful.

Anytime a baseball player takes a run at DiMaggio's record, a lot of casual fans start to follow the games more than usual. I remember Vladimir Guerrero had one over 30 games when he was with the Expos; in the game it ended he had a grounder, an intentional walk , a broken bat foul pop, and was on deck when the game ended, so he only had 2 ABs.

 

[Rhiessan71]

For some reason it looks like they only count streaks if all the games were in the same season, as some of the ones listed earlier started at the beginning of the season even though the players had some games with points at the end of the previous year.

The only official NHL record for points streaks that carries over from season-to-season is the playoff one. I know Bryan Trottier used to hold it, but I'm not sure if he still does or how many games it was.

These streaks are probably the most exciting records to follow for fans. It's not like breaking a scoring record where you know it'll happen eventually. With the streak, it's over with one bad game; so that makes every game leading closer to the record more and more suspenseful.

Anytime a baseball player takes a run at DiMaggio's record, a lot of casual fans start to follow the games more than usual. I remember Vladimir Guerrero had one over 30 games when he was with the Expos; in the game it ended he had a grounder, an intentional walk , a broken bat foul pop, and was on deck when the game ended, so he only had 2 ABs.

Yeah it was like Olerud's '93 season for the Jay's.
He had a 26 game hit streak and was still hitting over .400 into August, it was damned exciting and got A LOT of media attention and fan interest.

 

[kaiser matias]

With his goal and assist tonight (so far) Crosby has tied Heatley for the longest post-lockout point streak at 22 games.

 

[Hardyvan123]

Sundin sticks out like a sore thumb

Why is that?

People forget that he was probably the better player than Sakic during their last 2 years in Quebec (Sundin was 21,22 Sakic 23,24.

Does anything think Joe would have fared better if he had been sent to TO rather than Sundin?

I highly doubt it.

 

[Hardyvan123]

I'd hold off on that for now. We are witnessing a pretty incredible season from Crosby as we speak. I was once told by RedLeader (I never see him around these boards anymore) that my projection that Crosby could score 150 points in a season gave him reason to say that from then on my opinions were completely irrelevant from his perspective. I kind of chuckled even at that time because he was so young and had just come off a 120 point season as a teenager. Right now we are seeing a season where his pace has gone from the 130-140 range with each game. He's right in that neighbourhood and it seems everytime we doubt him he proves us wrong.

Anyway as for the point streak I know it could end any time but I truly think he'll hit at least 30 games. It'll be fun to watch anyway because we love streaks as sports fans. Being at 20 games right now and a large break until his next game means he'll be fresh.

Lord brought up a great point in that Sundin is the only guy past 90 on this list, tells us something about how the game has changed.

I have heard more than a couple of hockey experts say that Crosby's streak this season so far rivals Wayne's at 51 in terms of difficulty in that there are no more easy games anymore and scoring is at a much higher premium.

23 games and counting, a season for the ages from the Kid.

 

[revolverjgw]

Why is that?

People forget that he was probably the better player than Sakic during their last 2 years in Quebec (Sundin was 21,22 Sakic 23,24.

Does anything think Joe would have fared better if he had been sent to TO rather than Sundin?

I highly doubt it.

I know he was good, I'd campaign for his induction to the HOF, but look at the names around him, he's by far the worst player on there and the only guy not named Gretzky or Lemieux to get to 30. That's remarkable.

Also kind of statistically surprising he only scored 46 points during that incredibly long streak, just barely above his season average and well below the pace of everybody else on that list (and Crosby right now). It's just an all-around weird streak, that's all.

I have heard more than a couple of hockey experts say that Crosby's streak this season so far rivals Wayne's at 51 in terms of difficulty in that there are no more easy games anymore and scoring is at a much higher premium.

Good point. Crosby has put up an insane total over this streak/season yet he's only had one 4 point game all year. Incredible consistency.

 

[Daryl]

I remember a insider saying that approximately 130 points today would be equal to 200 points back then when Gretzky played,if I recall correctly that is.