Point + Kucherov vs. MacKinnon + Rantanen

[Ainec]

Contracts aside, the 4 are of similar age with Kucherov being 2 years older than MacKinnon

which duo is better?

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[PeterForsberg]

Let's be real..

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Colorado and it's not particularly close. Which isn't a knock on the Tampa Duo, they're probably Top 5 and if not they're certainly a Top 10 duo.


But Mack and Mikko are 1 and 2 in the league for points, by a pretty large margin. And over the last 110 games have put up some simply ridiculous numbers together.

 

[Mighty Makar]

I’m getting annoyed seeing all these Rantanen/MacKinnon polls lately. No disrespect to the thread starter.

 

[koyvoo]

Colorado and it's not particularly close. Which isn't a knock on the Tampa Duo, they're probably Top 5 and if not they're certainly a Top 10 duo.


But Mack and Mikko are 1 and 2 in the league for points, by a pretty large margin. And over the last 110 games have put up some simply ridiculous numbers together.

Rants 3 pts above and Mack 1 pt above Kuchy is not being 1-2 in scoring “by a pretty large margin”

That margin is actually quite slim.

 

[Steazy Doo]

I’m getting annoyed seeing all these Rantanen/MacKinnon polls lately. No disrespect to the thread starter.

It just means you have good players. People like comparing the best

 

[Mighty Makar]

It just means you have good players. People like comparing the best

I know, but some fans get annoyed and start disliking a player just cause, haha. “He’s overrated”. That sorta thing.

 

[Puckstuff]

Colorado wins this one.

 

[Future GOAT]

This may turn out to be a good battle this season. Kuch is on his way to passing the Avs duo. We'll see how things play out.

 

[filinski77]

Given that Kuch has been elite for the last 2 full seasons, I think I'd rank him as the best player of the bunch:

(Current Season Points)

Kucherov (42)
Mackinnon/Rantanen (43, 45)
Point (37)

Thy aren't really that far off offensively, point is probably the best defensively of the bunch. I would still go Mackinnon/Rants however, but it's fairly close.

 

[cgf]

Given that Kuch has been elite for the last 2 full seasons, I think I'd rank him as the best player of the bunch:

(Current Season Points)

Kucherov (42)
Mackinnon/Rantanen (43, 45)
Point (37)

Thy aren't really that far off offensively, point is probably the best defensively of the bunch. I would still go Mackinnon/Rants however, but it's fairly close.

Didn’t MacK outscore Kuch last season?...

 

[Cenzhin]

Didn’t MacK outscore Kuch last season?...

Was on pace to but just raw point totals, no.

 

[alexgreeen]

Kucherov
Mackinnon
Point
Rantanen

Tampa win

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Not close.

 

[LightningStrikes]

Didn’t MacK outscore Kuch last season?...

MacKinnon 39 goals and 97 points in 74 games
Kucherov 39 goals and 100 points in 80 games

 

[Leonhard Euler]

I don't understand these "not close" comments. I think it's extremely close in fact to a point where I'm not sure how to vote.

 

[JoVel]

Didn’t MacK outscore Kuch last season?...

He said last two full seasons. In 2017-18 they were close but in 2016-17 Kucherov had 85 in 74 while MacKinnon was pretty meh with 53 in 82.

 

[LightningStrikes]

He said last two full seasons. In 2017-18 they were close but in 2016-17 Kucherov had 85 in 74 while MacKinnon was pretty meh with 53 in 82.

Kuch is 2 years older though (25 vs 23).

 

[Leonhard Euler]

Kuch is 2 years older though (25 vs 23).

They are both right in their prime I don't think at this age the difference really matters.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Point and Kucherov hasn’t played the full season together. Kucherov has been mostly with Stamkos. However since joining together they have gone on a ridiculous level of production. Will be interesting to see how they do over the course of the season.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

They are both right in their prime I don't think at this age the difference really matters.

Can I just advise you to avoid Auston Matthews threads in this case?

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Avs duo pretty easily for me

 

[cgf]

They are both right in their prime I don't think at this age the difference really matters.

They are now but they weren’t at the start of the 2016-2017 season. Then MacK had just turned old enough to drink on a historically bad team; and it wouldn’t be until 10 games into the 2017-2018 season that he would breakout fully to reach this prime.

So I don’t think the age would be relevant if we were comparing them from the start of the 2017-2018 season, but when comparing them over the last two seasons it becomes a fair point IMO.

 

[that is unfortunate]

Kucherov
MacKinnon
Point

Rantanen

Kucherov, MacKinnon and Point are all pretty close, Rantanen is a tier below, Tampa for me

 

[filinski77]

Didn’t MacK outscore Kuch last season?...

Naw, better p/gp I believe, but not raw points.

Since the start of the 2016/2017 season, Kucherov is second in raw points, 3rd in raw goals, and 2nd in points/gp. 2 and 1/3 seasons of offensive dominance.