Players salary depending strictly to their numbers

[alko]

What if there will be some system, that will pretty close say, how much can a player earn.

There will be only 1 years contracts. After every season, every player salary will be calculated after their last season performance.

Points, time on ice, hits, blocks (...) and also the new planned tracking system will say exactly how much.

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[NHL WAR]

What if there will be some system, that will pretty close say, how much can a player earn.

There will be only 1 years contracts. After every season, every player salary will be calculated after their last season performance.

Points, time on ice, hits, blocks (...) and also the new planned tracking system will say exactly how much.

Any intelligent, efficient front office will already be doing this. How many front offices are intelligent and efficient, though.... probably not as many as there should be. I am not a big fan of the one year contract limit, though and I am sure the NHLPA would be against it.

 

[Doctor No]

one year contract limit, though and I am sure the NHLPA would be against it.

Charlie Finley proposed this in baseball in the 1970s, and everyone laughed him off - "make everyone a free agent every year!"

It seems like something players would like, but I agree - they shouldn't. Artificial scarcity present in today's system makes teams covet the players on the market each summer ("we have to get one of these two left wings or else"), but if everyone was a free agent, there would be a glut of supply. The cream of the crop would be paid, but the vast majority of players would become commodities in a stricter sense.

 

[NHL WAR]

Charlie Finley proposed this in baseball in the 1970s, and everyone laughed him off - "make everyone a free agent every year!"

It seems like something players would like, but I agree - they shouldn't. Artificial scarcity present in today's system makes teams covet the players on the market each summer ("we have to get one of these two left wings or else"), but if everyone was a free agent, there would be a glut of supply. The cream of the crop would be paid, but the vast majority of players would become commodities in a stricter sense.

As well as the lack of security or sensibility in the case of an injury. Say McDavid gets 7 points in his first 9 games, but then Brandon Manning gives him a season ending injury in practice. Under the OP proposed system, does his 7 points only earn him league minimum? Are his 7 points pro-rated and he gets paid 6-7 mill for a 63 point season? Either way it kind of defeats the purpose of the system when the next season he plays 82 games at a 15 million dollar level for a fraction of the cost. The current NHL system is kind of like what Churchill (?) said about democracy, " It isn't a great system, but it is better than all the rest."

 

[morehockeystats]

What you're suggesting is merely turning the NHL players into contractors that are paid on the basis of work performed.

The criteria to determine such a performance are very hard to define, it's not the number of crates you load onto a truck, and you're exposing yourself to the Granger causality.

 

[alko]

Sure, its only a basic idea. But you could make a very complicated and to almost all-thinking-formula (we have here some math gurus) that could see a pattern.

 

[Doctor No]

we have here some math gurus

Anyone who's good enough at math to even consider doing this is also aware that hockey cannot be modeled perfectly, and that any flaws in a model would be exaggerated by players managing to the formula and not to game outcomes. Goodhart's Law is more powerful than "math gurus".

Anything that you compensate players for in a formula (any formula), you would see more of at the expense of valuable things that are not compensated for in a formula.

 

[morehockeystats]

Anyone who's good enough at math to even consider doing this is also aware that hockey cannot be modeled perfectly, and that any flaws in a model would be exaggerated by players managing to the formula and not to game outcomes. Goodhart's Law is more powerful than "math gurus".

Anything that you compensate players for in a formula (any formula), you would see more of at the expense of valuable things that are not compensated for in a formula.

There's that Russian joke:
The hares, tired of being harassed by the wolves, come to the wise owl for advice.
'What can we do to help us out?
'Hmm... You should become wolves yourself!
'But how?
'I am here for the STRATEGIC advice.

 

[morehockeystats]

Signing a player to a contract is not dissimilar from investing into a stock. You try to predict future results based on past performances. Has stock management been all measured up?

 

[Madifer]

this would create numerous situations on ice where players would engage in very selfish behavior.

so just NO.

 

[cowboy82nd]

What if there will be some system, that will pretty close say, how much can a player earn.

There will be only 1 years contracts. After every season, every player salary will be calculated after their last season performance.

Points, time on ice, hits, blocks (...) and also the new planned tracking system will say exactly how much.

So, say like Connor McDavid gets hurt and only plays 10 games this year, what would his salary be for next year? And can you imagine the salary cap hell for teams.