Players points total upcoming season

[the]

This season will give us a great indication on how the rebuild is going. Lots of questions will be answered and hopefully we will see plenty of nice surprises.

I’m adding a twist to this thread. Instead of predicting our players points total like we do yearly, I would like to know how many points in your opinion would be a satisfactory production?

Something that would make you optimistic about the player or someone that you would like to see establish themselves and reach the next level.

Suzuki 75 points
Caufield 70 points

Dach 65 points
Monahan 60 points

Matheson 50 points

Newhook 45 points
Harvey-Pinard 45 points
Guhle 40 points
Slafkovsky 40 points
Anderson 40 points

Barron 35 points
Dvorak 35 points
Xhekaj 30 points
Ylonen 30 points

Harris 25 points
Savard 25 points
Evans 25 points
Kovacevic 20 points
Pezzetta 20 points
Lindstrom 20 points

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[Le Barron de HF]

Suzuki - 79 GP - 25 Goals & 72 points
Caufield - 74 GP - 36 goals & 68 points
Dach - 68 GP - 17 goals & 53 points
Matheson - 70 GP - 8 goals & 51 points
Anderson - 75 GP - 23 goals & 46 points
Newhook - 80 GP - 17 goals & 39 points
Gallagher- 64 GP - 14 goals & 34 points
Slafkovsky - 66 GP - 12 goals & 33 points
Guhle - 79 GP - 5 goals & 31 points
RHP - 69 GP - 13 goals & 29 points
Evans - 73 GP - 6 goals & 28 points
Barron - 74 GP - 6 goals & 27 points
Ylonen - 72 GP - 8 goals & 26 points
Monahan - 44 GP - 9 goals & 25 points
Xhekaj- 78 GP - 6 goals & 24 points
Pezzetta - 79 GP - 7 goals & 20 points

 

[Ozmodiar]

This season will give us a great indication on how the rebuild is going. Lots of questions will be answered and hopefully we will see plenty of nice surprises.

I’m adding a twist to this thread. Instead of predicting our players points total like we do yearly, I would like to know how many points in your opinion would be a satisfactory production?

Something that would make you optimistic about the player or someone that you would like to see establish themselves and reach the next level.

Suzuki 75 points
Caufield 70 points

Dach 65 points
Monahan 60 points

Matheson 50 points

Newhook 45 points
Harvey-Pinard 45 points
Guhle 40 points
Slafkovsky 40 points
Anderson 40 points

Barron 35 points
Dvorak 35 points
Xhekaj 30 points
Ylonen 30 points

Harris 25 points
Savard 25 points
Evans 25 points
Kovacevic 20 points
Pezzetta 20 points
Lindstrom 20 points

75 for NS would be maintain his solid trajectory.

CC - I’d like to see him match his pace over 82 games. Let’s round up to 65.

Dach - like above, to match production over a full season, but role will have an impact. 55 on the 2nd line, 10 point boost if on the first.

Newhook - I’d like to see the biggest jump in production with a top 6 role. Let’s say 50 on the 2nd line.

Slaf - just keep his head up and stay healthy. 35 would be a big improvement. A role on PP2, maybe?

Too many question marks with many of the others.

 

[Gravity]

Suzuki - 68 points
CC- 60 points
Dach- 51 points
Matheson - 40 points
Anderson - 45 points
Newhook - 48 points
Gallagher - 39 points
Slafkovsky - 35 points
Guhle - 38 points
RHP - 30 points
Evans - 30 points
Barron - 33 points
Ylonen - 20 points
Monahan - 55 points
Xhekaj - 27 points
Pezzetta - 24 points.

 

[StCaufield]

Suzuki - 68 points
CC- 60 points
Dach- 51 points
Matheson - 40 points
Anderson - 45 points
Newhook - 48 points
Gallagher - 39 points
Slafkovsky - 35 points
Guhle - 38 points
RHP - 30 points
Evans - 30 points
Barron - 33 points
Ylonen - 20 points
Monahan - 55 points
Xhekaj - 27 points
Pezzetta - 24 points.

I could see RHP getting more and Slaf will be skewed because I think he needs to be in the AHL. Otherwise looks pretty good

 

[Hacketts]

Pezzetta - 17 points

 

[Scriptor]

Suzuki - 79 GP - 25 Goals & 72 points
Caufield - 74 GP - 36 goals & 68 points
Dach - 68 GP - 17 goals & 53 points
Matheson - 70 GP - 8 goals & 51 points
Anderson - 75 GP - 23 goals & 46 points
Newhook - 80 GP - 17 goals & 39 points
Gallagher- 64 GP - 14 goals & 34 points
Slafkovsky - 66 GP - 12 goals & 33 points
Guhle - 79 GP - 5 goals & 31 points
RHP - 69 GP - 13 goals & 29 points
Evans - 73 GP - 6 goals & 28 points
Barron - 74 GP - 6 goals & 27 points
Ylonen - 72 GP - 8 goals & 26 points
Monahan - 44 GP - 9 goals & 25 points
Xhekaj- 78 GP - 6 goals & 24 points
Pezzetta - 79 GP - 7 goals & 20 points

That's a solid, realistic projection all-around, IMO, but I think you might be a little high with Anderson, a little low with RHP and much too catastrophic about Monahan whom I think will get 36 points in 50 games played, including 17 goals, plus get traded for a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick at the deadline.

 

[Mudz]

Pezzetta - 17 points

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[De Montreal]

Pezzetta probably 18 points

 

[Seb]

I think Suzuki gets 80+ pts this year. Watch him get 79 pts to mess with me.

 

[Darz]

Assuming full health (82 game season), I would be satisfied with:

Suzuki - 70 points (although I think he will be closer to 80-85 point, I would be satisfied with anything 70 or over)

Caufield - 65 points (if he plays 82 games, 40 goals is his floor, imo. Again I think he will get more)

Dach - 55 points (alot depends on who he plays with. 55 points out of a 2nd line centre is ok, imo)

Newhook - 50 points (he was brought in to help drive offence. Anything under 0.6ppg would be disappointing)

Monahan - 50 points ( if he is playing top six minutes, with a bunch of PP time, he should easily get 0.6 ppg. We all know he aint playing 82 games though)

Slavkovsky - 45 points (again, alot depends on his spot in the line up, but if he were to play 82 games with an increase in ice time over last year, I think 0.5 ppg should be his floor)

Gallagher - 45 points (if he plays 82 games, he will get 20-25 goals and assists, no problem. (Wouldn't bet on 82 games, but hey, miracles happen.

Anderson - 40 points (20-23 goals....17-20 assists..be a powerhorse)

The rest are too hard to predict...too many factors that are not known yet.

 

[ryan callahan]

Cole Caufield 80 55 41 96
Nick Suzuki 82 34 58 92
Michael Matheson 81 10 47 57
Kirby Dach 75 18 39 57
Alex Newhook 81 22 33 55
Kaiden Guhle 80 6 34 40
Sean Farrell 64 7 33 40
Rafael Harvey-Pinard 77 19 19 38
Josh Anderson 76 19 15 34
Sean Monahan 60 16 17 33
Juraj Slafkovsky 78 15 19 34
Brendan Gallagher 74 13 15 28
Justin Barron 66 7 18 25
Jordan Harris 76 2 22 24
Jake Evans 70 5 17 22
Jesse Ylonen 57 6 15 21
David Savard 81 2 16 18
Michael Pezzetta 57 7 2 9
Joshua Roy 25 5 4 9
Jonathan Kovacevic 63 2 4 6
Arber Xhekaj 37 2 2 4
Lucas Condotta 17 4 0 4
Lias Andersson 11 0 3 3
Logan Mailloux 4 0 1 1
Gustav Lindstrom 6 0 0 0

276 goals for 474 assists

Would be tied for 12th for goals for in the league this year. I think my projections are realistic if Caufield and Suzuki manage to break out in a big way. Defenseman total for game is at 492 and forwards is at 984 to match the numbers of a season (obviously if we don't run 7 Ds ever which will probably end up happening).

 

[LaP]

This season will give us a great indication on how the rebuild is going. Lots of questions will be answered and hopefully we will see plenty of nice surprises.

I’m adding a twist to this thread. Instead of predicting our players points total like we do yearly, I would like to know how many points in your opinion would be a satisfactory production?

Something that would make you optimistic about the player or someone that you would like to see establish themselves and reach the next level.

Suzuki 75 points
Caufield 70 points

Dach 65 points
Monahan 60 points

Matheson 50 points

Newhook 45 points
Harvey-Pinard 45 points
Guhle 40 points
Slafkovsky 40 points
Anderson 40 points

Barron 35 points
Dvorak 35 points
Xhekaj 30 points
Ylonen 30 points

Harris 25 points
Savard 25 points
Evans 25 points
Kovacevic 20 points
Pezzetta 20 points
Lindstrom 20 points

I think you underestimate how hard it is for a dman to do 50 points (while playing well defensively). Since 92-93 only 5 dmen reached 50 points playing for the Montreal CH.

Souray
Markov (x3)
Streit
Subban (x3)
Schneider

Souray and Streit were both PP specialists playing for the best PP in the entire league (2006-2007 and 2007-2008). 48 of Souray's points were on the PP. 34 of Streit's points were on the PP. Although they could do 50 points without Markov (while playing not so well defensively) those 60+ points season were both the product of Andrei Markov making our PP a juggernaut tbh. From 2005-2006 to 2014-2015 (Markov's prime) we rank 4th for the PP% (19.7%). Since Markov retired we rank 31st (16.7%).

Schneider was a perennial 45-50 points dman with many different teams (Mtl, Detroit, LA, NYI). Very underrated player imo better defensively than given credit for. A hot head on the ice for sure though.

I like Matheson but unless our PP is extremely good and top 5ish dominant i don't see him doing more than 40ish points.

 

[Habs]

Let's be honest, Monohan is getting injured stepping out of his car in the parkade

 

[Gustave]

Let's be honest, Monohan is getting injured stepping out of his car in the parkade

There's a lot to be honest about the 23-24 edition...

Monahan getting injured
Newhook not having proved he's top 6 so far
Slaf same as Newhook
Monty not proving a solid starting option for 50 games yet
Dach needing to take the next step to grab a real top 2C spot
It goes on and on...

I'm not exactly giving unprecedented comments here, pretty sure everyone knows the team has a strong possibililty of being bottom 8. Meaning, not a lot of statistical progress globally.

 

[Habs]

There's a lot to be honest about the 23-24 edition...

Monahan getting injured
Newhook not having proved he's top 6 so far
Slaf same as Newhook
Monty not proving a solid starting option for 50 games yet
Dach needing to take the next step to grab a real top 2C spot
It goes on and on...

I'm not exactly giving unprecedented comments here, pretty sure everyone knows the team has a strong possibililty of being bottom 8. Meaning, not a lot of statistical progress globally.

we will be bottom 6 in the NHL , too many missing pieces

 

[rickthegoon]

Suzuki 80gp = 75pts
Caufield 65gp = 60pts
Dach 70gp = 55pts
Monahan 35gp = 28pts
Newhook 75hp = 42pts
Anderson 70gp = 48 pts
RHP = 80gp = 38pts
Dvorak 62gp = 37pts
Armia = 60gp = 27pts
Evans = 72gp = 20pts
Pez = 48gp = 22 pts
Slaf = 65 gp = 31 pts
Roy = 20 gp = 13 pts
Farrell = 24 gp = 9 pts
The rest of combined AHL forwards called up = 35 gp = 14 pts

D
Matheson 62gp = 46 pts
Savard 75 gp = 29pts
Ghule 60 gp = 30 pts
Harris 65 Gp = 21 pts
Xhekaj 72 gp = 24 pts
Kovacevic 55 gp = 14 pts

Wideman 30 gp = 13 pts
Barron 45gp = 23 pts
Lindstrom = 32gp = 8pts

Other callups = 20 pts
I still have ptsd about the last 2 seasons injuries; hopefully I'm wrong

Edit: so much ptsd that I completely forgot Gallagher!!!
So ...
Gallagher = 48 gp = 29 pts

 

[cphabs]

Well, if a forward on our team breaches 70 points next year? It would honestly be amazing.

 

[LaP]

Well, if a forward on our team breaches 70 points next year? It would honestly be amazing.

I'd like to see another 90+ points season before i die personally.

 

[cphabs]

I'd like to see another 90+ points season before i die personally.

Me too friend

 

[Adam Michaels]

- Caufield: 93 goals (breaks Wayne's record)
- Suzuki: 216 pts (breaks Wayne's record)
- Xhekaj: 473 PIMs (breaks Dave Schultz's record)
- Monty: 23 shutouts (breaks Hainsworth's record)

And still Canadiens end in last place with 20 pts (breaks Caps' record from 1974-75).

 

[LaP]

- Caufield: 93 goals (breaks Wayne's record)
- Suzuki: 216 pts (breaks Wayne's record)
- Xhekaj: 473 PIMs (breaks Dave Schultz's record)
- Monty: 23 shutouts (breaks Hainsworth's record)

And still Canadiens end in last place with 20 pts (breaks Caps' record from 1974-75).

Are you okay Adam? Did you forget your medication?

 

[Antiillafire]

Slaf 23 goals, 47 assists. 80 games played. (totally not biased Slovak )

 

[the]

Well, if a forward on our team breaches 70 points next year? It would honestly be amazing.

Sure, it would be amazing but scoring has gone significantly higher. 70 points is no longer what it used to be. I feel we deserve better.

We are fixated on Alexei Kovalev’s banner year in 2008 being our last 80+ points player. However, let’s not forget that production was good to be 11th best in the league. With today’s inflated points the comparable would be Erik Karlsson’s 101 points.

Last season we had 29 80 points players. Obviously not everything is created equally but each team should hope to at least have 1 player with that type of production.

I’ve listed guys like Suzuki and Caufield to get over 70 points but I’ll be honest, anything below would be disappointing knowing that we had at least 59 players with a production of 70 points last year.

 

[Scriptor]

Cole Caufield 80 55 41 96
Nick Suzuki 82 34 58 92
Michael Matheson 81 10 47 57
Kirby Dach 75 18 39 57
Alex Newhook 81 22 33 55
Kaiden Guhle 80 6 34 40
Sean Farrell 64 7 33 40
Rafael Harvey-Pinard 77 19 19 38
Josh Anderson 76 19 15 34
Sean Monahan 60 16 17 33
Juraj Slafkovsky 78 15 19 34
Brendan Gallagher 74 13 15 28
Justin Barron 66 7 18 25
Jordan Harris 76 2 22 24
Jake Evans 70 5 17 22
Jesse Ylonen 57 6 15 21
David Savard 81 2 16 18
Michael Pezzetta 57 7 2 9
Joshua Roy 25 5 4 9
Jonathan Kovacevic 63 2 4 6
Arber Xhekaj 37 2 2 4
Lucas Condotta 17 4 0 4
Lias Andersson 11 0 3 3
Logan Mailloux 4 0 1 1
Gustav Lindstrom 6 0 0 0

276 goals for 474 assists

Would be tied for 12th for goals for in the league this year. I think my projections are realistic if Caufield and Suzuki manage to break out in a big way. Defenseman total for game is at 492 and forwards is at 984 to match the numbers of a season (obviously if we don't run 7 Ds ever which will probably end up happening).

Farrell won"t be playing in the NHL this year --not for the Hxbs, anyhow -- so there's that 40 points for this player out the window.

Barring a ton of injuries, again, I can't imagine Condotta getting more than a barely a sniff at the NHL,not 17 games.

Heineman will play before both Farrell and Condotta.