Player suspended for sports betting issue

[LadyStanley]

41 games? Wow

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[LadyStanley]

Potential cap issues

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[No Fun Shogun]

This is a clear line in the sand that no league can ignore.

If you're involved in the NHL, you cannot bet on the NHL under any circumstance whatsoever. Never, ever, never.

But that all being said, the NHL (and other leagues) are so far in bed with betting sites and sportsbooks now and their broadcasting brings it up so damn much that it's really hard to cede the NHL the moral high ground here.

 

[ColinM]

This is a clear line in the sand that no league can ignore.

If you're involved in the NHL, you cannot bet on the NHL under any circumstance whatsoever. Never, ever, never.

But that all being said, the NHL (and other leagues) are so far in bed with betting sites and sportsbooks now and their broadcasting brings it up so damn much that it's really hard to cede the NHL the moral high ground here.

Rumour has it he wasn't betting on the NHL but rather than NFL.

Having said that, the rules as outlined in the CBA are clear regardless of if they are hypocrtical.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Rumour has it he wasn't betting on the NHL but rather than NFL.

Having said that, the rules as outlined in the CBA are clear regardless of if they are hypocrtical.

If true, then that is especially stupid. Unless there's a caveat on not betting in team facilities akin to a few NFLers getting busted betting on other sports in their practice facilities, but even that's dumb.

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[MeHateHe]

If you're involved in the NHL, you cannot bet on the NHL under any circumstance whatsoever. Never, ever, never.

But that all being said, the NHL (and other leagues) are so far in bed with betting sites and sportsbooks now and their broadcasting brings it up so damn much that it's really hard to cede the NHL the moral high ground here.

No argument on your first statement. But you can understand the temptation. Connor McDavid is making serious bank from endorsements for sports books, and league owners are raking in dough from the advertisements for those companies, so a third liner takes a look at that and realizes he'll never get a real piece of that, he sure sees an incentive to colour outside the lines.

 

[LadyStanley]

Still haven't seen official NHL announcement

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[Yukon Joe]

So I have to admit I would find it surprising to learn that players can nt bet on other, non-hockey, sports.

Although maybe I'm assuming here - the press release just said he didn't bet on the NHL. Maybe he was betting on AHL games or something.

But really, given how in bed with sports betting the league now is, what's the harm on a player wanting to wager on the NFL?

 

[LadyStanley]

Can't bet on NHL property, i.e., practice facility, arena. (NFL players have run afoul of that.)

I haven't seen the specific thing done that caused the investigation and suspension.

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[MeHateHe]

For the record, if you are calling hypocrisy on a league for having financial arrangements with gambling companies while they crack down on players for gambling, how do you feel about a league having an official beer and then having to suspend players when they violate substance abuse policies?

 

[StreetHawk]

Can't bet on NHL property, i.e., practice facility, arena. (NFL players have run afoul of that.)

I haven't seen the specific thing done that caused the investigation and suspension.

Half a season is a big deal. The Lions players were caught betting while at the facility, so that got them 6 games, which is about 35% of their season. Would equal 29 NHL games.

 

[cheswick]

So if he didn't bet on the NHL what did he do that warranted a half a season suspension?

 

[Yukon Joe]

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So if he didn't bet on the NHL what did he do that warranted a half a season suspension?

From the link posted above:

Sources told Daily Faceoff that the league’s investigation centered around a sweep of gambling partners that revealed a Pinto connection to a third-party bettor.

My 100% guess - although the league couldn't prove Pinto was gambling on NHL games, he had unexplained and/or suspicious ties to people who were.

41 games - the league definitely thinks something was wrong.

 

[TheLegend]

 

[LadyStanley]

NHLPA helped negotiate penalty and Pinto won't appeal.

 

[GKJ]

So he’s suspended without having a contract. He won’t lose any actual money since he isn’t being paid. Unless he has to pay a fine.

 

[mouser]

So he’s suspended without having a contract. He won’t lose any actual money since he isn’t being paid. Unless he has to pay a fine.

Pinto lost the ability to sign a contract now and be paid on it before the suspension ends in January.

 

[archangel2]

he wont be the last

 

[mouser]

NHLPA helped negotiate penalty and Pinto won't appeal.

Sources are suggesting the issue revolved around proxy betting on Pinto’s account. Meaning someone other than Pinto was placing bets on his account. Proxy betting is barred on most if not all gambling platforms. There are some possible factors which could have been influenced the severity of the punishment:

- Were any bets placed on Pinto’s account while he was physically located in a place where his gambling platform was not legal?
- Did the “proxy” place any bets on NHL action?

 

[TheLegend]

Sources are suggesting the issue revolved around proxy betting on Pinto’s account. Meaning someone other than Pinto was placing bets on his account. Proxy betting is barred on most if not all gambling platforms. There are some possible factors which could have been influenced the severity of the punishment:

- Were any bets placed on Pinto’s account while he was physically located in a place where his gambling platform was not legal?
- Did the “proxy” place any bets on NHL action?

“Betting by proxy” sounds awfully similar to the Rick Tocchet - Janet Gretzky situation years ago.

 

[mouser]

“Betting by proxy” sounds awfully similar to the Rick Tocchet - Janet Gretzky situation years ago.

It‘s not clear in the media reports whether the “proxy” was making every bet at Pinto’s direction. Or if the “proxy” was someone (friend, family, etc) with access to his account who placed bets without Pinto’s approval.

Either would be problematic, but could be different from the Tocchet/Gretzky fiasco.