Player of the decade poll #8: 1990s

[Bouboumaster]

Voted Lemieux, because, of course.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Lidstrom or brodeur will take the 2000s. Crosby will the 2010s. McDavid the 2020s. We have to wait for the 2030s lol

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Lemieux was so much better than everyone else in the 90s, even if he did miss half of it. Even so his trophy case is still better than all other skaters.

Ppg in the 90s

Lemieux 2.06
Gretzky 1.37
Lindros 1.36
Jagr 1.32
Lafontaine 1.30

1990s NHL Scoring Leaders

NHL scoring leaders during the 1990s. NHL stats leaders in the decade spanning from 1990 to 1999.

www.quanthockey.com

 

[slapKing]

lemieux for me. despite the injuries and cancer, his dominance is too much to ignore.

 

[NigerianNightmare]

Where's Pavel Bure?

 

[toothlessgoon]

Where's Pavel Bure?

Limited to 10 players. He didn't make the cut.

 

[NigerianNightmare]

Limited to 10 players. He didn't make the cut.

Could have replaced Hull with Bure,
Yzerman with Fedorov,
Bourque with Leetch

 

[toothlessgoon]

Could have replaced Hull with Bure,
Yzerman with Fedorov,
Bourque with Leetch

Hull had much better goal scoring seasons than Bure, especially with his 2 best goal scoring seasons coming in the 2000s. Yzerman is better than Fedorov, who only had 2 great seasons. And Leetch over Bourque? Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

 

[NigerianNightmare]

Hull had much better goal scoring seasons than Bure, especially with his 2 best goal scoring seasons coming in the 2000s. Yzerman is better than Fedorov, who only had 2 great seasons. And Leetch over Bourque? Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

Bure is the last man to have back-to-back 60-goal seasons and was arguably the most electrifying winger in the game when healthy. He didn't need an Adam Oates calibre centre to reach 60.

I don't think Yzerman was better than Fedorov who was a terrific two-way forward. We had a thread discussing Fedorov vs Yzerman earlier. Fedorov won the Hart over Gretzky and had amazing postseason productivity.

Leetch won the Cup, the Smythe and a couple of Norrises if I remember correctly. Bourque got his Cup thanks to the Avs trade.

 

[snipes]

The Magnificent One.

 

[wetcoast]

Fair comment, that's obviously not an apples-to-apples comparison. But my point was we're not comparing Lemieux (with 4.5 season's worth of games) to someone who was there the entire decade. Hasek wasn't in the NHL in 1990, only played 5 games in 1991, and was a backup (with good but not great numbers) in 1992 and 1993.

If the timeframe was something like 1994 to 2003 (which captures all of Hasek's prime), maybe you can argue him over Lemieux, because Hasek would have a significant edge in longevity. But in the 1990's calendar decade, Hasek had four years that were basically irrelevant. Lemieux also missed a lot of time obviously, but I'd take Lemieux for 4.5 seasons worth of games (with two all-time great playoff runs) over Hasek for 6 seasons - your mileage may vary.

Just curious, are you using 90-91 as the first season of the decade or 89-90?

 

[wetcoast]

160 in 60 Is by far better than 163 in 78.

Sure as far as scoring pace goes but in actual terms of what each player meant to his team overall I'd take Gretzky and his 163 in 78 8 days a week.

There is alot to support this view as well.

 

[RalphKing]

Didn't look up any stats before selecting Hasek.

Maybe Lemieux has him beat, but it's close.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Sure as far as scoring pace goes but in actual terms of what each player meant to his team overall I'd take Gretzky and his 163 in 78 8 days a week.

There is alot to support this view as well.

Are you for real? Jesus what a take

 

[Hockey Outsider]

Just curious, are you using 90-91 as the first season of the decade or 89-90?

I was using 1989-90 to 1998-99 as the 1990's.

 

[TBF1972]

Lidstrom or brodeur will take the 2000s. Crosby will the 2010s. McDavid the 2020s. We have to wait for the 2030s lol

if a goalie wins any decade it's the '90. hasek was the most dominant at his position by a large margin. his six year run of excellence from 1993 -1999 is unmatched. find me another goalie, who finished top10 in sv% in six consecutive seasons.

buffalo was hasek and some average skaters and they made it to the sc finals.

hasek was an easy pick for me. highest and longest peak at his position.

 

[ijuka]

160 in 60 Is by far better than 163 in 78.

Okay? But 161 in 70 is not. Gretzky also had 2 points per game in playoffs that season, Lemieux 1.5.

Really strange that you'd make this point with the 160 in 60 when considering the posts the one in contention would have been Lemieux's weaker season, not the stronger one.

Just curious, are you using 90-91 as the first season of the decade or 89-90?

90-91 is the first season of the decade, and 99-00 is the last season of the decade.

However, "90s" is not quite the same thing as "decade" so it's a bit confusing. We should be using the second half of 89-90 and the first half of 99-00 to be accurate for that, but with the word "decade" in the op I've gone with 90-91 to 99-00.

 

[McRpro]

Mario just didn't play enough. My vote went to The Dominator.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Okay? But 161 in 70 is not. Gretzky also had 2 points per game in playoffs that season, Lemieux 1.5.

Really strange that you'd make this point with the 160 in 60 when considering the posts the one in contention would have been Lemieux's weaker season, not the stronger one.

90-91 is the first season of the decade, and 99-00 is the last season of the decade.

However, "90s" is not quite the same thing as "decade" so it's a bit confusing. We should be using the second half of 89-90 and the first half of 99-00 to be accurate for that, but with the word "decade" in the op I've gone with 90-91 to 99-00.

The decade starts in 89-90. And 161 in 70 is again much better than 163 in 78

 

[tarheelhockey]

Voted Lemieux, but Hasek is an extremely close second. Hasek was like the Lemieux of goalies.

 

[wetcoast]

I was using 1989-90 to 1998-99 as the 1990's.

That's what I thought.

I use 90-91 to 99-00 but it would make more sense for the OP to specify the time period as it does make a difference.

 

[wetcoast]

Are you for real? Jesus what a take

I'm guessing that either you didn't give it a lot of thought and research ie tested your view or simply don't care about total impact and scoring is 100% of your take?

 

[notDatsyuk]

if a goalie wins any decade it's the '90. hasek was the most dominant at his position by a large margin. his six year run of excellence from 1993 -1999 is unmatched. find me another goalie, who finished top10 in sv% in six consecutive seasons.

buffalo was hasek and some average skaters and they made it to the sc finals.

hasek was an easy pick for me. highest and longest peak at his position.

Ignoring goalies with fewer than ten games, Johnny Bower was second in sv% in 61-62, third in 62-63, first in the next four seasons, and tied for first in 67-68. He also won four Cups in those seven seasons.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

find me another goalie, who finished top10 in sv% in six consecutive seasons.

Patrick Roy was top ten in save percentage eight years in a row (1987 to 1994) - 1st four times, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 8th.

Tony Esposito did that 11 years in a row (1970 to 1980) - with two first place finishes and four runner-ups.

Luongo too (2002 to 2007 - though his rankings weren't as impressive as Hasek or Roy).

(This is based on hockey-reference.com's requirement that the goalies has to play 0.3125 games per scheduled game - so about 26 games over the course of an 82 game season).

(EDIT - I assume you mean first in save percentage six years in a row. Only Hasek has done that).

 

[centipede2233]

Bure is the last man to have back-to-back 60-goal seasons and was arguably the most electrifying winger in the game when healthy. He didn't need an Adam Oates calibre centre to reach 60.

I don't think Yzerman was better than Fedorov who was a terrific two-way forward. We had a thread discussing Fedorov vs Yzerman earlier. Fedorov won the Hart over Gretzky and had amazing postseason productivity.

Leetch won the Cup, the Smythe and a couple of Norrises if I remember correctly. Bourque got his Cup thanks to the Avs trade.

Using that leetch and bourque argument, so I guess with that reasoning Roy ahead of hasek because Roy had 2 cups and a smythe and hasek had no postseason hardware?