Boo is going to have to stand out in Hartford to get a call-up--which probably will only happen if someone doesn't live up to expectations or there's an injury.
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It feels bad to use a 2 pts. NHL player who is 29 years old with 32 NHL games instead of Boo Nieves.
I woke up in a good mood too.. Brief, it`s questionable decisions by AV since he is the main coach.
I woke up in a good mood too.. Brief, it`s questionable decisions by AV since he is the main coach.
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NHL data is viable source - the TOI arguement compare to other 4th line players who get similar ice time - just weak arguement. I don`t understand what you guys see in P. Carey. Did other NHL teams turn their back on him in Caps & Avalanche years ago? No, they saw that P. Carey stunk and moved his contract to open up another contract spot.
Eh, i'm done with this argument, i disagree with you, let's end it there.
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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Am I the only one who feels like the poll question is worded oddly? I'm having trouble understanding the tenses....
It was oddly worded no doubts about that. I just wish that Boo Nieves could have a breakthrough season this year in NHL, but he kind of slept through the training camp unfortunately.
One thing though this topic is about Boo Nieves and not me. I`ll cheer for Paul C. tomorrow even though I felt it was not an ideal signing for us. But I hope Paul proves me wrong tomorrow night and get a good start in NHL.
One thing though this topic is about Boo Nieves and not me. I`ll cheer for Paul C. tomorrow even though I felt it was not an ideal signing for us. But I hope Paul proves me wrong tomorrow night and get a good start in NHL.
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SingnBluesOnBroadway
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This wasn't an attempt to call you out.
I just don't understand what you're asking.
If the question is: will he be successful in the NHL this season? Probably not.
If the question is: will he be successful in the NHL at some point in his career for the Rangers? Possibly. There are tools there. I think he needs to figure out how he will be most effective as a pro. His offensive numbers in college were hardly gaudy. He needs to find away to use his skill the be a difference maker to add value (forecheck, back check, PK, corner work). Maybe he becomes a shut-down center..(a modern day Jan Erixon).
Yeah a good point, @Revel - it`s not a big cap hit based on Paul C. contract and salary, and hopefully he add something like depth for us.
@SingnBluesOnBroadway no worries, it`s fine. I thought about this season concerning B. Nieves. I wish Boo had a more successful training camp earlier. But there are some fans who believe Boo Nieves will get a breakthrough season next year in NHL in 2018-19 season.
@SingnBluesOnBroadway no worries, it`s fine. I thought about this season concerning B. Nieves. I wish Boo had a more successful training camp earlier. But there are some fans who believe Boo Nieves will get a breakthrough season next year in NHL in 2018-19 season.
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Amazing Kreiderman
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Nieves couldn't earn a spot over Paul Carey. That's all you need to know. Carey is an elite AHL player but a marginal at best NHL 4th liner. If Nieves cannot do better than Carey, he simply does not deserve to be on the team.
Edge
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It's no secret that I've never been insanely high on him, going back many years at this point. I'm also guilty of being one of those people who pushed back harder the more he was sold by some.
Nieves has amazing speed and has developed quite the frame to go with it. But in the five or six years I've watched him, I've just never seen a good grasp on actually playing and understanding the game. Frankly, his speed covers for a lot of poor decision making and lack of skills in other areas.
To me, he always seemed more like a journeyman fourth liner because his physical attributes were always going to intrigue someone. However, without a consistent way to channel said attributes, I saw him as a fringe player.
Having said that, I would not write him off entirely at this point. How he responds in the AHL is going to go a long way toward determining whether we find him back here sooner rather than later.
Nieves has amazing speed and has developed quite the frame to go with it. But in the five or six years I've watched him, I've just never seen a good grasp on actually playing and understanding the game. Frankly, his speed covers for a lot of poor decision making and lack of skills in other areas.
To me, he always seemed more like a journeyman fourth liner because his physical attributes were always going to intrigue someone. However, without a consistent way to channel said attributes, I saw him as a fringe player.
Having said that, I would not write him off entirely at this point. How he responds in the AHL is going to go a long way toward determining whether we find him back here sooner rather than later.
He is a UFA after this season. Are we bringing him back or trading him? He seems to be pretty good, but gets injured often.
He's a fringe 4th liner. Those are a dime a dozen. Unless you ask Bern, who thinks that he should be the 4th line center.
In a vacuum he is a bottom 6 pivot; BUT chemistry and linemates are important factors as well.
When we shed the excess pivots, and hopefully move Hayes with Chapman return in mind, and possibly Zib to defeat NMC and sell high, then we will see, as I said, Nieves and Kreider to have great synergy.
Until Kravtsov gets here.
Thank God AV is buy-bye
that and injuries slowed Boo arrival.
When we shed the excess pivots, and hopefully move Hayes with Chapman return in mind, and possibly Zib to defeat NMC and sell high, then we will see, as I said, Nieves and Kreider to have great synergy.
Until Kravtsov gets here.
Thank God AV is buy-bye
that and injuries slowed Boo arrival.
A fringe 4th line is still just a fringe 4th liner. Which is all Nieves is.
Now trade ZBad because of his NMC? You DO understand that without NMC/NTC, you will NEVER be able to sign players who are top liners? Or retain your own. It's not about getting rid of such clauses. It's carefully managing to whom they are given and when. And just how big the list is.
I could not stand AV from the start, but he has absolutely as much to do with Nieves being a fringe player as you do.
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Well no doubts he has struggled with injuries, but 2012 NYR, 2nd rd, 29th pk (59th overall)
Career stats: 55 GP 17 pts. Only 4 goals, but 13 assist exactly 0 in +/- so far in 3 seasons.
1 goal in his last 5 games.
I think we should resign him and hopefully he plays a full season and see what Nieves can do for us next year in a bridge kind of deal. And he will be barely noticed concerning cap hit. My brief point is it is not based on cap reasons if he get moved in a value package.
Career stats: 55 GP 17 pts. Only 4 goals, but 13 assist exactly 0 in +/- so far in 3 seasons.
1 goal in his last 5 games.
I think we should resign him and hopefully he plays a full season and see what Nieves can do for us next year in a bridge kind of deal. And he will be barely noticed concerning cap hit. My brief point is it is not based on cap reasons if he get moved in a value package.
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Fringe 4th liners are a dime a dozen, Rangers are playing a D on their 4th line.
Boo looks like a solid 4th line player to me. Not just here, but even on a good team. Fast, strong, reasonable skill, versatile, good teammate. I think he'd be capable of playing most places. That he's taken longer than average to make it doesn't make him less of a player now.
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Boo is ok for what he is, a 4th liner who doesn't really bring anything unique to the table. Maybe some speed but it doesn't really amount to much. He's fine for now on the rebuilding team but has no business on a contending team.
NYR Viper
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I agree with this to a 't'. To me he looks to be rounding out into a real nice, versatile, depth forward who can play on the 4th line and prime PK time.
boo is fine, and he will continue to be fine as a 4th line center ... as long as he's paid less than $1m.
Amazing Kreiderman
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There's no proof of this. There's NOTHING that points to this being even remotely true. Stop it
haveandare
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Id re-sign him. He's good for the role and as much as its not the most valuable role, the fact is we've had a cycle of crappy players in this position since losing Moore.
