Planning and Preliminary Rules Discussion for ATD 2015
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VanIslander
A 19-year ATDer on HfBoards
Link picks on draft list with bios constructed now or, if not done now, with bios on the ATD Master Bio Thread list! It'll encourage bio construction and be a valuable resource for future drafts when easily linked.
TheDevilMadeMe
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I agree that this would be an improvement but it's kind of a pain in the ... for the person updating the draft thread, no?
VanIslander
A 19-year ATDer on HfBoards
That's the objection? ... I have been sweating on this board for TEN years bustin' my gut in drafts to run them as well as I could.If no one else is willing to url and then backslash url the bios on the pick list, then I'd gladly do it. (It's not much more work. It IS a commitment, a concerted effort, but it takes little time or energy, just focus and determination.)
I think several of us would be willing to do it.
seventieslord
Student Of The Game
I just bookmark the relevant roster threads and ctrl-f names when I want to see bios for players. So this proposition wouldn't be a big value add for me.
VanIslander
A 19-year ATDer on HfBoards
seventieslord
Student Of The Game
Just because I don't personally find it useful doesn't mean others wouldn't. We're here for an open exchange of ideas. That was my opinion. Let's hear what others have to say. Really what we want to know is, is the benefit worth the work involved?
seventieslord
Student Of The Game
My point is, all the bios are already pretty Damn conveniently accessible. At least to me. You just need a system.
Hawkey Town 18
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A few things off the top of my head...
Trading: yes or no? I enjoyed the no trade draft last year and would be for it again
How will we reward people that voted every round last year? I am in favor of letting them pick their draft spot again but am open to other suggestions
Draft order in general: I like how everyone got the opportunity to put in a list for their preferred draft spot last year and think we should do it again
I am in the same boat as seventies when it comes to names in the draft thread being linked to bios. It would be more convenient for sure but not enough to warrant me putting in the time to do it. If others want to then go right ahead. It would be a lot less work if people made the link themselves when they made their pick or if finished their bio...that way all the mods would have to do is copy and paste without looking anything up.
Number of teams: I am in favor of a different number than we've seen the last couple years...of course this all depends on interest level
Trading: yes or no? I enjoyed the no trade draft last year and would be for it again
How will we reward people that voted every round last year? I am in favor of letting them pick their draft spot again but am open to other suggestions
Draft order in general: I like how everyone got the opportunity to put in a list for their preferred draft spot last year and think we should do it again
I am in the same boat as seventies when it comes to names in the draft thread being linked to bios. It would be more convenient for sure but not enough to warrant me putting in the time to do it. If others want to then go right ahead. It would be a lot less work if people made the link themselves when they made their pick or if finished their bio...that way all the mods would have to do is copy and paste without looking anything up.
Number of teams: I am in favor of a different number than we've seen the last couple years...of course this all depends on interest level
TheDevilMadeMe
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I'm assuming that the crazy idea of having a huge draft (56-64 teams) where each GM is allowed to have 2 Teams (one in each Conference) isn't happening?
It would sure shake things up!
It would sure shake things up!
TheDevilMadeMe
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I think trading is the one thing that is so controverisal, we should probably put it to a vote shortly before the draft starts.
Did anyone keep track of who voted in every round this time?
It was fun. I personally don't have a preference as to whether we do it again or go back to random.
Half the time, GMs selecting players don't even post the player's position, or bold his name, or post the number of the pick if it's a makeup. Just because we ask them to do something to make the draft easier to administer, doesn't mean they will.
We have to assume that the primary burden of adding things to the OP will be on the person keeping it updated.
See my crazy idea above (that was based off a conversation with 70s where he said he'd love to have a huge draft again).
The issue is that we seem to have a core group of 24-32 GMs who are interested in these so it's hard to change the number too much without either leaving people out, or aggressively recruiting GMs who may or may not finish.
This year, we can have a stickied thread on the HOH board for the entire ATD recruitment period if we decide to go bigger.
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ResilientBeast
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VanIslander
A 19-year ATDer on HfBoards
I love it. That would make the MLD real interesting!
Rule suggestion: No player or pick of one team may end up on one's other team through trades.
Or,...
One conference could have trading, the other conference have no-trades allowed, thereby ensuring no problems with having two teams!!!
ResilientBeast
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VanIslander
A 19-year ATDer on HfBoards
It would be nice to see Doug Weight and Dick Irvin become starting top-6 forwards!
Kind of. But there would a different mix (e.g, more all-time great Bottom-6 role players would be drafted earlier onto ATD squads instead of falling to the MLD).
TheDevilMadeMe
Registered User
Kind of surprised to see the idea gain support, actually, but lets let more comment on it.
Obviously, some kind of mechanism would have to be put in place to prevent a GM's 2 teams from trading with each other, directly or indirectly.
Obviously, some kind of mechanism would have to be put in place to prevent a GM's 2 teams from trading with each other, directly or indirectly.
VanIslander
A 19-year ATDer on HfBoards
Having one of the conferences a 'no trade' conference solves that completely!
seventieslord
Student Of The Game
not really, man... MLD would be AA quality!
typical AAA draft follows about 44 teams worth of drafting and has about 10 teams itself, so the AA draft starts at around the 55th team. so the MLD (if there even is one) would be the caliber of players we take in the AA.
guys who aren't even on our AAA radars right now would be dotting 4th, maybe even 3rd lines in this draft.
I love the idea of a super huge draft, I just hate the idea of people having two teams.
papershoes
Registered User
Love the idea of having a large draft where each GM can have two teams. And, if we go that way, VanIslander's idea of conference set-up would be perfect...
Hawkey Town 18
Registered User
If memory serves you posted who you received votes from for each playoff round in the draft thread and I confirmed getting votes from same. I remember I always had the same voters as you (i.e. no one only voted for only one conference). We would have to ask VR about the finals but even if we don't have that info, I think we can still reward those we know for sure voted in all other rounds.
TheDevilMadeMe
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tony d
New poll series coming from me on June 3
I'm up for any kind of draft. I sort of like doing a bigger draft as well and maybe seeing if we can bring back a few of the gm's who have left like vecens, arrbez and Leafs Forever.
seventieslord
Student Of The Game
I think the idea of a crazy big draft could get some of them back in.
I'd like to see 64 teams, but with as few people GMing multiple teams as possible.
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