Proposal: PIT - NSH/NYR

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Dante Fabbro/Eeli Tolvanen
FLA 3rd round pick


Patric Hornqvist


And then



Chris Kreider


Dante Fabbro/Eeli Tolvanen
Calen Addison
Dominik Simon


All three teams get what they want. NSH upgrades their forward group. PIT adds speed and a top 6 forward. NYR gets a steep return of great young players that they'd expect if they're going to trade with a team in their conference.

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[HawkeyTalkMan]

Doubt Nashville wants hornqvist with that contract and term now at his age

 

[BigFatCat999]

No, Fabbro is in the 'Untouchable because it will f up future plans' catagory.

 

[LOUISVILLE ICE CARDS]

No from the Preds I would love Hornqvist back but not at the price of Fabbro. Honestly I’m more willing to trade Tolvanen than fabbro

 

[5cotland]

Hell no for NYR and defo Preds say no

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

No from the Preds I would love Hornqvist back but not at the price of Fabbro. Honestly I’m more willing to trade Tolvanen than fabbro

I'm editing the proposal then

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Hell no for NYR and defo Preds say no

Care to explain?

 

[StephenPeat]

Why wouldn’t Nashville just add a little bit to Fabbro + 3RD and try to get Kreider themselves if they wanted to upgrade their forward group without trading Tolvanen? At Hornqvist’s age and contract, this series of deals is a clear win for Pitt but pretty bad for Nsh.

 

[RomanEmpire]

Why would nashville give up either of their top prospects for a 32 year old Hornqvist

 

[Empoleon8771]

Dear lord no from the Penguins, Jesus Christ that's horrendous for them. They're trading Hornqvist, Addison and Simon for Kreider? Are you joking me?

The idea that the Rangers would say no to this is also funny. If you seriously think they'll be getting a better return for Kreider than Tolvanen, Addison and Simon, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Why wouldn’t Nashville just add a little bit to Fabbro + 3RD and try to get Kreider themselves if they wanted to upgrade their forward group without trading Tolvanen? At Hornqvist’s age and contract, this series of deals is a clear win for Pitt but pretty bad for Nsh.

Sure, but adding Addison+Simon isn't adding "a little bit".

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Why would nashville give up either of their top prospects for a 32 year old Hornqvist

32 isn't that old really

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

I'm editing the proposal then

It's a no with Tolvanen too.

 

[MalkinsPierogi]

Penguins aren't trading Horny...

 

[Extra Texture]

Seems like, if the Preds were willing to part with a top prospect, they would cut out the middle man (and five years) and just go for Kreider themselves.

He's a different kind of player to Horns (who I would be loath to give up from the Pens) but he plays with a nasty edge and can score dirty, clean, whatever. Maybe he doesn't have the heart-and-soul qualities for PH, but that's not what Nashville need to get over the hump. They need scoring and production. They already have guys who play hard and emotional, in spades.

And I'd give a lot to see Kreider as a Penguin, but I don't know if i'd sacrifice Hornqvist, even at 32.

 

[SEALBound]

Why would nashville give up either of their top prospects for a 32 year old Hornqvist

Come on man, 2017 wasn't THAT long ago.

 

[Mortivore]

Everyone hates it, so a good deal!

 

[StephenPeat]

Sure, but adding Addison+Simon isn't adding "a little bit".

Maybe not to you.....I don’t see too many people clamoring for Simon or Addison. They are “okay” pieces but the difference between Kreider and Hornqvist is nearly covered by the potential difference between Fabbro and those two Pens pieces. Nsh would be better off cutting out the middle man.

 

[Empoleon8771]

There are just a ton of problems with these deals, where even to begin:

1. I agree with the other posts, if Nashville is trading Fabbro or Tolvanen, they're better off just going right for Kreider. I am really surprised that Predators fans would say no to reacquiring Hornqvist though, their powerplay is really bad this year and they know Hornqvist about as well as Penguins fans do.
2. But at the same point, the Penguins trading Hornqvist for Fabbro/Tolvanen and a 3rd is bad value for them. Hornqvist is an extremely unique net front guy who will probably give you about 25 goals and 50 points per 82 games. They can get better than just a recent 1st round pick prospect and a 3rd for him.
3. The Rangers come out like bandits in value for this. If Kreider could pull off a prospect like Fabbro or Tolvanen with Addison and Simon, he would have been traded already. That's a fantastic return for them, especially with Kreider only having a year and a half left of control.

To me, this is a bad value deal for the Penguins, a bad fit for Nashville and an absolute fleecing by the Rangers.

 

[WhoTagz]

Dante Fabbro/Eeli Tolvanen
FLA 3rd round pick


Patric Hornqvist


And then



Chris Kreider


Dante Fabbro/Eeli Tolvanen
Calen Addison
Dominik Simon


All three teams get what they want. NSH upgrades their forward group. PIT adds speed and a top 6 forward. NYR gets a steep return of great young players that they'd expect if they're going to trade with a team in their conference.

No way rangers send kreider to a rival

 

[Groo]

Penguins aren't trading Horny...

No doubt. The Pens would be hard pressed giving him away

 

[Moon Knight]

No way rangers send kreider to a rival

If the price is right, why not? The Rangers sent Grabner to the Devils and they'll certainly send Kreider or Zucc to the Pens if they pay the most.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

NSH would just cut out the middle man and get the better player imo

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

There are just a ton of problems with these deals, where even to begin:

1. I agree with the other posts, if Nashville is trading Fabbro or Tolvanen, they're better off just going right for Kreider. I am really surprised that Predators fans would say no to reacquiring Hornqvist though, their powerplay is really bad this year and they know Hornqvist about as well as Penguins fans do./QUOTE]

And Hornqvist isn't the guy to fix it because we struggle even setting up in the zone most of the time.

 

[Empoleon8771]

No doubt. The Pens would be hard pressed giving him away

Damn, you're hitting the bars early. Because there's no way a sober person would actually think this.