Phoenix XXXVIII: Hulsizer Pulls Bid For Coyotes; UPD 2 unnamed interested buyers

[saskganesh]

How long does it take them to do a schedule? A few weeks or a few months?

 

[LadyStanley]

How long does it take them to do a schedule? A few weeks or a few months?

NHL game schedule? They work on it for months. (There isn't a computer that does it.)

 

[MaskedSonja]

NHL game schedule? They work on it for months. (There isn't a computer that does it.)

I understand it's quite a process-they pretty much have to make it manually. They have to contact every team and check with them in regards to available dates based on what's going on at the arena that night, and also have to take into account travel time and info of each team for teams that are road swings-it's quite the effort.

 

[Scottrocks58*]

NHL game schedule? They work on it for months. (There isn't a computer that does it.)

That's surprising. IIRC baseball and basketball use a computer program. Manual changes are made on the result but the basic work is all automated.

 

[kdb209]

That's surprising. IIRC baseball and basketball use a computer program. Manual changes are made on the result but the basic work is all automated.

Baseball stadiums do not generally have scheduling conflicts which limit the dates available, and despite the longer 162 game schedule there is actually less travel in MLB due to 3-4 game series and longer homestands.

 

[TheLegend]

That's surprising. IIRC baseball and basketball use a computer program. Manual changes are made on the result but the basic work is all automated.

Baseball stadiums do not generally have scheduling conflicts which limit the dates available, and despite the longer 162 game schedule there is actually less travel in MLB due to 3-4 game series and longer homestands.

Add to that... many NHL teams are the secondary tenant in the arenas they play in and only get to work with what the primary tenant leaves them.

 

[TheLegend]

FWIW....

http://www.glendaleaz.com/clerk/agendasandminutes/Workshops/Agendas/081611.pdf

 

[Killion]

FWIW....

Is FWIW the anagram for "For What Its Worth", like, the Stephen Stills Buffalo Springfield tune?. If so, FWIW, are you aware that Todd McFarlane was at one time a minority owner of the Oilers, is based on the WestCoast & also lives in Arizona a fair amount of the time?. Somthin happenin here, what it is aint exactly clear. FWIW Legend....

oh, & btw, nice job of putting the Bag on that one!.

 

[ps241]

Is FWIW the anagram for "For What Its Worth", like, the Stephen Stills Buffalo Springfield tune?. If so, FWIW, are you aware that Todd McFarlane was at one time a minority owner of the Oilers, is based on the WestCoast & also lives in Arizona a fair amount of the time?. Somthin happenin here, what it is aint exactly clear. FWIW Legend....

oh, & btw, nice job of putting the Bag on that one!.

there's a man with a gun over there.....telling me i gotta beware.....sweet tune my friend! got the name for the band as they drove by the Springfield factory in Buffalo or was it actually the Buffalo Springfield factory (oh the dog days of summer)

it would be great for our friends in Phoenix if this thing had a happy ending! a major long shot i know!

 

[Frank the Tank]

I understand it's quite a process-they pretty much have to make it manually. They have to contact every team and check with them in regards to available dates based on what's going on at the arena that night, and also have to take into account travel time and info of each team for teams that are road swings-it's quite the effort.

I remember reading an announcement many years back that the official NHL schedule maker (a guy and his big board) was being replaced with a computer system.

Update: this was all I could find (from 2004), and perhaps the information is obsolete by now.

http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?ref=rss&d=66085

 

[TheLegend]

oh, & btw, nice job of putting the Bag on that one!.

Thanks..... Figured it fit the overall theme of things lately.

 

[TheLegend]

Rocandmanuch tweeted this link a couple hours ago.....

http://azsportstalk.com/2011/08/rocs-watch-dog-report-latest-on-phoenix-coyotes/

Doesn't say much other than Roc has talked to one of the actual investors and should know more Monday afternoon.

I agree with him that a seven year OC is very reasonable.

 

[Killion]

the dog days...

are over. Florence & The Machine

I agree with him that a seven year OC is very reasonable.

Very. But be patient Legend, for "a fool can ask more questions in an hour than a wise man can answer in 7 years".
Olde English Proverb

 

[Roughneck]

Scruggs said if the issue isn't resolved by the end of the year the team will be gone, leaving a void in the arena, which the city will still need to manage.

Glendale's options "are pretty limited" in finding something to replace the Coyotes, she said. "We've never had a presentation by staff on what it would cost the city to run the arena without a team there," she said. "We should have that number before we make any more mistakes." [/I]

That seems odd considering how often the COG was saying how much it would cost to leave the arena empty and turn the lights out.

 

[Mungman]

Rocandmanuch tweeted this link a couple hours ago.....

http://azsportstalk.com/2011/08/rocs-watch-dog-report-latest-on-phoenix-coyotes/

Doesn't say much other than Roc has talked to one of the actual investors and should know more Monday afternoon.

I agree with him that a seven year OC is very reasonable.

I need a shoe picture before I believe!!! Sounds like a too-hopeful-for-his-own-good media type getting hopes up too high a-la THE BALKAN.

 

[Acesolid]

So after all this a resolution should be there monday?

I dont think so, I predict a very, very long sale process with Goldwater preventing the city from selling the bonds.

 

[Evil Doctor]

So after all this a resolution should be there monday?

I dont think so, I predict a very, very long sale process with Goldwater preventing the city from selling the bonds.

Why would the city be selling bonds? It sounds like the new owner is actually paying out of pocket.

 

[Bob1321]

why a new owner want to lose money during 7 years?

 

[Acesolid]

Why would the city be selling bonds? It sounds like the new owner is actually paying out of pocket.

Not entirely:

"The official familiar with the Coyotes situation said the unnamed Canadian group has plenty of cash to make the deal. That same source said the group could put up $100 million, with $40 million to $50 million coming from the city of Glendale via bonds. The NHL could give approval to the deal in the coming days, according to KDUS."

I'm pretty sure a 40 to 50 million bond givaway is something Goldwater wont like very much. And that might not sell just like the previous bonds.

 

[Fugu]

I need a shoe picture before I believe!!! Sounds like a too-hopeful-for-his-own-good media type getting hopes up too high a-la THE BALKAN.

What's needed to really get up to speed on the sales process:

1. Quip by Daly, or similar, that a deal is imminent, preferably that we'll know more in two weeks,

2. A picture of an alleged investor's shoe, and

3. A catchy nickname, like the Russian or Siberian.

 

[LadyStanley]

3. A catchy nickname, like the Russian or Siberian.

Marty the Martian

 

[Killion]

My Favorite Martian = Bill Bixby
Bill Bixby = The Incredible Hulk
The Incredible Hulk = Marvel Comics
Marvel Comics = Spawn
Spawn = Todd McFarlane
McFarlane = Coyotes Mystery Buyer

really pretty simple yes?.

 

[Confucius]

Why would the city be selling bonds? It sounds like the new owner is actually paying out of pocket.

If the new owner is not getting any money from the city. Why would the city have any input about an out clause?

 

[dronald]

Wait, so is an owner stepping up to pay the full asking price of the Coyotes, or are they borrowing money from Glendale?

 

[OthmarAmmann]

If the new owner is not getting any money from the city. Why would the city have any input about an out clause?

Because they're negotiating a new AMULA?