Phoenix XLIV: Ignorance & Apathy (or I Doan't Know & I Doan't Care)

kdb209 · Feb 28, 2012

wahoyaho · Feb 28, 2012

Conspiracy

Ludwig Fell Down · Feb 28, 2012

Tremendous thread title, KDB. My vote was for, "some serious posters making serious posts" but this was outstanding. I love that Bobby Bowden quote.

CoG = ignorance and NHL = apathy (at least in their public posturing).

Amazing how a couple of baseless rumors in AZ Central can lead to several hundred posts in no time.

davemac1313 · Feb 28, 2012

clearly...this Thread(s) is now on cycle 2.

--Smaller Canadian city trying to justify the loss of a team years ago and why they now deserve one back
--Comparing attendance in the 80's early 90's when arenas were all pretty much 14000, to today when 18K is the norm (you can't quote attendance fairly in cities in 1990 to compare to today, the game and fan base have grown.....hence the revenue increases.....this is a straw man argument at best)
---Sunnocks knows as little today as he did 1 year ago (really almost looks like he just reprints columns but changes a few names)
---Internet folk(wtf is his name? Zorn?) that suddenly think Coyotes Hockey LLC on the COG agenda is news...clearly have not been following along and have no idea that this has been there for 2 years....Yet they act like it is news and a step toward a new owner. It's nothing
---The COG having any real clue what the hell they are involved in, is beyond comprehension, they have never been in the loop or even on the same page......ever...not once
---Trust GB to be straightforward? Ask Ouebec or Winnipeg in the 90's.....the man has a gift for oral manipulation....and not the kind that satisfies.....you ain't ever gonna get your money's worth from any act he performs.
---anyone thinking that today, yesterday or ever that the COG has a legal leg to stand on, on anything regarding any of their sports investments.
---That Westgate means anything to the hockey team or provides any added value or arena traffic....Outlet mall or not....(tell me how that helps a hockey team....people bargain hunting for designer *&^% at 60% off regular retail...do not pay League average prices for tickets)
---That Roc and Mauch know anymore than Hustler and Lawless about whats really going on.
---That some friend of a rich guy really knows anything that Gary Bettman is thinking...for real
---and finally, for the what????.....the 16th year in a row.......that any owner of this team in it's present location....can make any money....ever.....I mean in forever....wait...that should be never.

The ONLY chance for Hockey to succeed in this market is by leaving this market. Maybe after a few years the same kind of passion seen in Quebec and Winnipeg will entice a very rich person to invest in this market again. IF I EVER see 10,000 or more fans at a rally to bring the NHL to this market in the future.....I will believe that it could succeed. Then it will be clear that the fans understood what they had and lost.

There is simply not enough "I give a damn support" to ensure anything more than a year or 2 until we are back at this same juncture. A new owner will quickly become the new reason for failure of the market.

---Apologies to my Nordique friends......but the end result of this saga will be the first documented instance of "Kiss a Frog and your Dreams will come True".....at least for one city.....

It's over....gawd...call the vet.....there is only hope......to prolong the inevitable......the right thing needs to be done.....put this Dog down.

Acesolid · Feb 29, 2012

KevyD said:
^^^^^

Two other reasons I forgot to mention...

1) The BOG's feel a new CBA may allow the Coyotes to survive financially;
2) Canadian expansion money (Q.C. + Toronto 2 - which would be far north [pun intended] of anything they could get for Seattle or for a team returning to Phoenix) is making the owners drool.

I've got to stop you at point one. There is still NO OWNER.

Even if the new CBA might allow the Coyotes not to crash and burn, they wont allow another year of NHL ownership if they have a single brain-cell.

I know I said it last year, but with the city of Glendale having seemingly given up; there's only two possibilities now: A sale to a new local owner or QuÃ©bec (or Seattle, if they can somehow get the financing on time, something highly unlikely)!

uhlaw97 · Feb 29, 2012

Personally, I think that a sale to a group led by Les Alexander, and a move to Houston would be better.

No Fun Shogun · Feb 29, 2012

uhlaw97 said:
Personally, I think that a sale to a group led by Les Alexander, and a move to Houston would be better.

Pretty sure he's not interested anymore, so not really a chance for the Yotes this time around. It's between QC as the prohibitive favorites and Seattle as the longshot at this point in time if the Yotes do relocate.

Eaglepride* · Feb 29, 2012

Not to disrespect the loyal Coyotes fans but at this point safe for a miracle there aren't any options.

Like someone mentioned either sell the team to a market, hungry for the return of a former club OR risk another Atlanta/Phoenix situation by selling them to an owner who only wants them as a by product to get his NBA arena.

If the BOG is smart after all of this they should go the QC route here. Nordique fans might as well start searching for their old jerseys soon they will need it.

Confucius · Feb 29, 2012

We didn't need the "T", I think we would have got it with I Doan know & I Doan care

Confucius · Feb 29, 2012

Cheer for the perennial loser.......it's a "sports fan" thing

The secret to MLSE's success.

Shawa666 · Feb 29, 2012

uhlaw97 said:
Personally, I think that a sale to a group led by Les Alexander, and a move to Houston would be better.

Seriously, If Alexander had been interested in an NHL franchise for Houston you can be sure that that's where the Thrashers would have landed last summer. And I bet Gary would have not asked for his pound of flesh.

Evil Doctor · Feb 29, 2012

uhlaw97 said:
Personally, I think that a sale to a group led by Les Alexander, and a move to Houston would be better.

I feel like I'm watching the Fireplace Channel.... :silly:

Ludwig Fell Down · Feb 29, 2012

Evil Doctor said:
I feel like I'm watching the Fireplace Channel....

or the Please Stand By channel or the carousel channel.

CBJ goalie · Feb 29, 2012

Today is Leap Day - what more could the NHL and COG ask for, 24 extra hours to get this deal done, sheesh....

King Woodballs · Feb 29, 2012

eeesh another thread without a resolution

shocker :sarcasm:

over under 50 threads before this saga ends

Nordskull · Feb 29, 2012

I thought a big announcement was expected. The Yotes are back in town.

Ah. I forgot, the timetable always changes.

In all honesty towards Coyotes fans and people elsewhere, the league should state what's happening. You cannot give a couple months to someone to organize a prohockey team.

Show your cards or leave, show respect to hockey fans. State what's happening, ESPECIALLY if they stay. Show respect to people of Glendale. Time to state your devoted fans what is going on.

Stanley Cup · Feb 29, 2012

Joey Jr Shabadoo said:
Today is Leap Day - what more could the NHL and COG ask for, 24 extra hours to get this deal done, sheesh....

At this pace they'll get another Feb 29th to negociate

OttawaRoughRiderFan* · Feb 29, 2012

QcBlizzard said:
I In all honesty towards Coyotes fans and people elsewhere, the league should state what's happening. You cannot give a couple months to someone to organize a prohockey team.

Show your cards or leave, show respect to hockey fans. State what's happening

I have to disagree QcB...

Other than the fans in Glendale and a few Canadians who follow this, the Coyotes (and the NHL's franchise problems) are off the radar. Why draw attention to a negative situation?

Nordskull · Feb 29, 2012

I just realized part XIV title was: To infinity and beyond. This was oct 2010!

The funniest one is probably Pain in the AZ, clever fun.

Confucius · Feb 29, 2012

KevyD said:
I have to disagree QcB...

Other than the fans in Glendale and a few Canadians who follow this, the Coyotes (and the NHL's franchise problems) are off the radar. Why draw attention to a negative situation?

This is true, hardly anybody I talk to know or cares what's happening in Phoenix. In the Balsillie era there was a lot of talk but not now.

Nordskull · Feb 29, 2012

KevyD said:
I have to disagree QcB...

Other than the fans in Glendale and a few Canadians who follow this, the Coyotes (and the NHL's franchise problems) are off the radar. Why draw attention to a negative situation?

No, I mean, if there is a positive solution, I think its time to state it.

Comes a time you must tell people whats happening. I agree, if its positive, like I mentionned, its appropriate.

Scottrocks58* · Feb 29, 2012

Season ticket renewal invoices just went out. The 300 are looking forward to continued playoff runs.

Confucius · Feb 29, 2012

Scottrocks58 said:
Season ticket renewal invoices just went out. The 300 are looking forward to continued playoff runs.

Currently on an amazing run. Nice story.

Northender · Feb 29, 2012

QcBlizzard said:
No, I mean, if there is a positive solution, I think its time to state it.

Comes a time you must tell people whats happening. I agree, if its positive, like I mentionned, its appropriate.

Ain't happening, GB will be Fort Knox until after the playoffs my friend.

headsigh · Feb 29, 2012

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