Player Discussion Phillip Danault - You Guys Are Getting Paid? Edition

[BigDaddyLurch]

He is already making 3,5..... He won't accept less than 5 for 5 seasons. And if he can't get it in MTL, he will easily get it elsewhere. With tatar and Drouin gone, Habs swill have plenty of $ to re-sign Danault and Armia + give raise to KK

It's not about having the money, it's about using that Cap wisely and $5 mill+ to a defensive specialist is terrible Asset Management...if Colorado or someone else is willing to throw massive dollars at Phil, let them and wish Danault well on his way out the door...

 

[1909]

It's not about having the money, it's about using that Cap wisely and $5 mill+ to a defensive specialist is terrible Asset Management...if Colorado or someone else is willing to throw massive dollars at Phil, let them and wish Danault well on his way out the door...

You should know by now that Danault is way more than a defensive specialist or typical third liner. The guy is the one who win the most his faceoffs, he can kill penalties, he was part of one of the best 5vs 5 unit in the whole NHL for a couple of seasons, his team metes apprciate him a lot, and he is well respected by opponents, and he has to face the medias at a rate no other players is facing in this room.

 

[Monsieur Miz]

Series are so funny. I remember Fernando Pisani scoring 14 goals with the Oilers, getting a juicy contract and sucking ass for the reminder of it.

Everyone wanted this guy out of the team before the playoffs started and now, we're on board to sign him for 6-6.

I just can't, man.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

You should know by now that Danault is way more than a defensive specialist or typical third liner. The guy is the one who win the most his faceoffs, he can kill penalties, he was part of one of the best 5vs 5 unit in the whole NHL for a couple of seasons, his team metes apprciate him a lot, and he is well respected by opponents, and he has to face the medias at a rate no other players is facing in this room.

He's not. He's a third liner with 0 offensive abilities , what else can you call him? Who cares if Matthews said something about him. Matthews choked himself out as usual. Even still Matthews won pretty much all important faceoff at key moment against him.

Anybody giving more than 3.75m to Danault or plays him in a top 6 is a complete psycho.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Series are so funny. I remember Fernando Pisani scoring 14 goals with the Oilers, getting a juicy contract and sucking ass for the reminder of it.

Everyone wanted this guy out of the team before the playoffs started and now, we're on board to sign him for 6-6.

I just can't, man.

He had 14 goals while Danault has 0 points in 7 games

Oh wait a secondary assist on an empty net color me shocked

 

[1909]

He's not. He's a third liner with 0 offensive abilities , what else can you call him? Who cares if Matthews said something about him. Matthews choked himself out as usual. Even still Matthews won pretty much all important faceoff at key moment against him.

Anybody giving more than 3.75m to Danault or plays him in a top 6 is a complete psycho.

Go to the NHL contracts sites and go through every team... And you will quickly find out that there is LOTS of players with worst stats and impact being paid way more than Danault.

 

[1909]

Series are so funny. I remember Fernando Pisani scoring 14 goals with the Oilers, getting a juicy contract and sucking ass for the reminder of it.

Everyone wanted this guy out of the team before the playoffs started and now, we're on board to sign him for 6-6.

I just can't, man.

5 X 5 nakes sense, and he will get it.

 

[1909]

He had 14 goals while Danault has 0 points in 7 games

Oh wait a secondary assist on an empty net color me shocked

Never compare a flash in the pan like Pisani to a real NHL pro like Danault.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

You should know by now that Danault is way more than a defensive specialist or typical third liner. The guy is the one who win the most his faceoffs, he can kill penalties, he was part of one of the best 5vs 5 unit in the whole NHL for a couple of seasons, his team metes apprciate him a lot, and he is well respected by opponents, and he has to face the medias at a rate no other players is facing in this room.

He is a shutdown #3C, that's what he is; denying that fact is denying reality, period...is he an Elite #3C, yup, however it's still a #3C...you can spin it however you wish but at the end of the day his job is to shut down the opponent's Top Line...anyone that pays him over $5 mill is going to regret it immediately...

 

[1909]

He is a shutdown #3C, that's what he is; denying that fact is denying reality, period...is he an Elite #3C, yup, however it's still a #3C...you can spin it however you wish but at the end of the day his job is to shut down the opponent's Top Line...anyone that pays him over $5 mill is going to regret it immediately...

If Pageau can get 5 M, so will Danault. in MTL or elsewhere.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Series are so funny. I remember Fernando Pisani scoring 14 goals with the Oilers, getting a juicy contract and sucking ass for the reminder of it.

Everyone wanted this guy out of the team before the playoffs started and now, we're on board to sign him for 6-6.

I just can't, man.

4.5m is the most he should get, especially in a flat cap world. Ideally 4m.

 

[CHfan1]

He is already making 3,5..... He won't accept less than 5 for 5 seasons. And if he can't get it in MTL, he will easily get it elsewhere. With tatar and Drouin gone, Habs swill have plenty of $ to re-sign Danault and Armia + give raise to KK

I still think he gets somewhere between Pageau’s deal (6 years at $5 million AAV) signed pre-flat cap and Lowry’s deal (5 years at $3.25 million AAV) signed recently.

The big factor being the flat cap. Long term contracts given to forwards since the NHL shutdown in the 2020 regular season has been significantly down compared to past years. Only 6 forwards have gotten contracts that were 5 years or longer since then. Only 2 have gotten 6 years or longer.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Go to the NHL contracts sites and go through every team... And you will quickly find out that there is LOTS of players with worst stats and impact being paid way more than Danault.

Okay and then what? Because of that You give him the top 6 contract and play him over kids ? Adam Lowry also shutdown lines with bottom 6 plugs and has some offensive skills and he's paid 3.25m a year.

It's cool that we beat Toronto and we all know that Toronto choked let's all be honest for 1 second.
Danault is not the reason why Toronto lost and not the main reason why Matthews and Marner choked. It's been the same thing for the last 4 playoffs with them.

If you really wanna give a huge contract to a guy like Danault then don't be suprised in a normal season we end up 11-12th in the east.

Don't forget we just ended a season 24-32. Le't not overhype this roster , you gotta be careful. We already made a terrible move by not trading up Tatar at this deadline and extending Gallagher that much.

Danault is an overprice 3rd center for a team that is close to a cup , which Montreal is not even close even if they beat Winnipeg.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Never compare a flash in the pan like Pisani to a real NHL pro like Danault.

We could use Armia if you want also. 1 good game goes invisible the next 10. People wanted to extend him because of his 2 goals night against Toronto and everybody forget what happened weeks/years before.

 

[LaP]

Series are so funny. I remember Fernando Pisani scoring 14 goals with the Oilers, getting a juicy contract and sucking ass for the reminder of it.

Everyone wanted this guy out of the team before the playoffs started and now, we're on board to sign him for 6-6.

I just can't, man.

That Pisani run was probably the most laughable thing i've seen in playoffs ever. With the name and all it was just pure gold comedy.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

If Pageau can get 5 M, so will Danault. in MTL or elsewhere.

Pageau can do something Danault can't; he can score...again, shutting down the opposition's Top Line is a valuable commodity, no one is denying that...however that is all he provides; Hell, even his vaunted Face Off skills were lacking this year for large parts of the season and against the Laffs, especially Pornstache, in the Playoffs...if someone else is willing to cough up more dough for a longer term, let them and wish Phil well...that's what needs to be done; either he stays at a reasonable #3C contract or he walks for more money...Flat Cap, extremely limited offensive skill, Cap strapped team...

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Pageau can do something Danault can't; he can score...again, shutting down the opposition's Top Line is a valuable commodity, no one is denying that...however that is all he provides; Hell, even his vaunted Face Off skills were lacking this year for large parts of the season and against the Laffs, especially Pornstache, in the Playoffs...if someone else is willing to cough up more dough for a longer term, let them and wish Phil well...that's what needs to be done; either he stays at a reasonable #3C contract or he walks for more money...Flat Cap, extremely limited offensive skill, Cap strapped team...

Gotta agree with this. Pageau can put the puck in the net and always been dangerous during the playoffs offensively.

Pageau and Danault can't be compared in terms of contracts anymore. Even less with the flat cap

 

[1909]

Pageau can do something Danault can't; he can score...again, shutting down the opposition's Top Line is a valuable commodity, no one is denying that...however that is all he provides; Hell, even his vaunted Face Off skills were lacking this year for large parts of the season and against the Laffs, especially Pornstache, in the Playoffs...if someone else is willing to cough up more dough for a longer term, let them and wish Phil well...that's what needs to be done; either he stays at a reasonable #3C contract or he walks for more money...Flat Cap, extremely limited offensive skill, Cap strapped team...

The Playoffs gonna dictate what's gonna happen with him (and others) in MTL.

With Drouin in jeopardy, and no real other French speaking player ready in the org, I strongly doubt they gonna let him walk... But ultimately, it's gonna be Danault's decision. I certainly don't want Habs to go after French speaking guys like Paquette or Chiasson just for the sake to have a French speaking player. Let's keep the one who has the most value: Danault.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

The Playoffs gonna dictate what's gonna happen with him (and others) in MTL.

With Drouin in jeopardy, and no real other French speaking player ready in the org, I strongly doubt they gonna let him walk... But ultimately, it's gonna be Danault's decision. I certainly don't want Habs to go after French speaking guys like Paquette or Chiasson just for the sake to have a French speaking player. Let's keep the one who has the most value: Danault.

oh cmon man don't tell me Barginbin would actually use the french card to sign him

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

The Playoffs gonna dictate what's gonna happen with him (and others) in MTL.

With Drouin in jeopardy, and no real other French speaking player ready in the org, I strongly doubt they gonna let him walk... But ultimately, it's gonna be Danault's decision. I certainly don't want Habs to go after French speaking guys like Paquette or Chiasson just for the sake to have a French speaking player. Let's keep the one who has the most value: Danault.

That's on Phil himself; if he outprices himself, he outprices himself...not worth it to keep him at a Cap that hurts the team and that needs to be the #1 factor here...will it be, probably not, but it should be...otherwise, all the Habs are going to accomplish is to hurt themselves in the long run by again overpaying for a role player...

 

[HamiltonNHL]

As of right now, Danault:

• Has 11 pts in his last 11 games
• Is 2nd in points on 5 vs 5 on the Habs overall
• Is third amongst forwards in the NHL for plus-minus with +19
• Is C of a line that outscored their opponents 18-3 since the start of the season
• Shut down Matthews and Marner when it mattered most (NEW)

Updated.

The CBC talked about him like he was Bergeron.

 

[Essenege]

Pageau can do something Danault can't; he can score...again, shutting down the opposition's Top Line is a valuable commodity, no one is denying that...however that is all he provides; Hell, even his vaunted Face Off skills were lacking this year for large parts of the season and against the Laffs, especially Pornstache, in the Playoffs...if someone else is willing to cough up more dough for a longer term, let them and wish Phil well...that's what needs to be done; either he stays at a reasonable #3C contract or he walks for more money...Flat Cap, extremely limited offensive skill, Cap strapped team...

At 5v5 Pageau hovers around 1.30 points per 60 minutes. Danault averages over 2 points per 60 in the last seasons. Even if you factor out Gallagher and consider an added value for goals, Danault is a significantly more productive player.

While being a better shutdown center.

Danault would be worth more without the flat cap in the open market (maybe 5.5 to 5.75 range?). I think now 5 is reasonable.

 

[dgeezus]

With Drouin probably gone and no québécois who can play regularly next year, Bergevin will try his hardest to resign him.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Updated.

The CBC talked about him like he was Bergeron.

Of course they did...and he's got one secondary assist while being a -3 with a 50% Faceoff percentage so far in the PO's...if Bergeron had those stats, Bruins fans and media would be roasting him alive right now...Hype vs Reality is always the battle in the media and Hype almost always wins...

 

[canucklover123]

He's not. He's a third liner with 0 offensive abilities , what else can you call him? Who cares if Matthews said something about him. Matthews choked himself out as usual. Even still Matthews won pretty much all important faceoff at key moment against him.

Anybody giving more than 3.75m to Danault or plays him in a top 6 is a complete psycho.