Player Discussion Phillip Danault (Part 3)

[Schooner Guy]

Who in the world is Jonathan Cassette? Is he any relation to Jack 8Track?

 

[Colezuki]

I believe that we will see MB stay well under the cap this year. If it is indeed his last season as GM, he might not want to make any big moves that handcuff the new guy coming in.

I said it when talking about Price potentially being snagged, I think that if Price stays he Re-ups for 3 more to close out the era of Price, I think if he leaves they announce a transition shortly and the new GM will take over without the limitations of Weber and Price

 

[OldCraig71]

If it is his last year they need to hire some potential replacements and let them learn on the job.

Maybe it will be Scott Mellanby.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

I would think the habs wait on Danault until after the draft. If Price is gone they can rebuild, LTIR Weber, let Danault, Armia, etc. walk, deal for picks and prospects, tank for top picks in the next two drafts.

If Price is back they might as well pay Danault 6 mil per year, sign whoever they can back, hope Weber is back for the playoffs and go with the core.

Danault may well be overrated because of Gallagher and Price, we'll get some idea if he leaves. He may well be underrated because of the lack of transition and speed on D.

Terrible idea to resign Danault. You have to remember MB most likely isn't returning as the Habs GM. So resigning Danault and letting the next GM deal with that shit contract is such a dick move.

 

[Archijerej]

If it is his last year they need to hire some potential replacements and let them learn on the job.

They already have one in place.

 

[Tyson]

Danault did a great job as a 3rd line center but in a cap world he is no more than a 4m per season player.

Time to move on

 

[dcyhabs]

They already have one in place.

They need to hire a few more guys and have some internal competition?

 

[Archijerej]

They need to hire a few more guys and have some internal competition?

I don't think hiring potential next GMs and letting them fight it out is a good idea. The Leafs did just that.

 

[dinodebino]

That's pretty clear to me. His clan leaked the info, and that generally doesn't please GMs and management teams. He openly pouted last summer at his press conference about how he was not going to be a strictly defensive guy. He refused a 6 years, 5M per season offer without even giving a counter offer.

So yeah. I try to think of anything Bergevin might have done wrong here, but I can't find any.

Habs leaked the asking numbers.

 

[dinodebino]

8x 5.8M

For Phil...

I love that guy.

 

[Mikah]

Still funny that info got out like what....30 minutes....and all the Engels, Marinaro or Lavoie....guys who never really broke any stories and never been able to predict anything about the Habs...all have suddenly solid infos.

Could be true.....but there's one thing the NHL is doing, they tried to keep everything under wrapped for until tomorrow night. Signing, trades, deals between Seattle and teams. But they all know he won't be back though....

So as with Price....we'll know tomorrow night.

Yea.. I can also imagine the conversation between Ron Francis and Don Meehan (Danault's agent):

RF: Dude, I am trying to get MB to spit out a few draft picks to protect Price by pretending we'll pick him. Why the heck would you go out and leak our arrangement on Danault?

DM: Oh sorry, didn't think about that. I'll call some of my buddies and say that we never talked..

Anyways... so many possibilities!! What is funny is all those 'insiders' 'leaking' informations, when we all know its either complete speculation so they can do their 'told you so' dance tomorrow and justify their following, or its them being played by the GM/agents/players to get some messages across.

Either way, I have to admit its quite a fun ride so far!! I thought we'd be discussing Byron versus Evans versus Kulak at this point..

 

[1909]

Maybe it will be Scott Mellanby.

Very possible. A Montreal born guy who is there since MB is around.

 

[Captain97]

If Danault is gone we gotta start thinking about 3c replacements:

UFA:
Bonino
Haula
Stastny
Wennberg

4c's and role Evans as 3
Zajac (kinda old but not bad)
Paquette
R.Nash (3/4 imo)

For Trade possibly
Dvorak (rumored available)
Gourde (Tampa needs cap)
Tierney (ufa next year)
Strome (either of the C's really)

 

[Colezuki]

Let's assume for fun, the Danault leak is legitimate, that would mean he's the pick, but if the beauviller news is to be believed then you could think Drouin is gone now as well

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

If Danault is gone we gotta start thinking about 3c replacements:

UFA:
Bonino
Haula
Stastny
Wennberg

4c's and role Evans as 3
Zajac (kinda old but not bad)
Paquette
R.Nash (3/4 imo)

For Trade possibly
Dvorak (rumored available)
Gourde (Tampa needs cap)
Tierney (ufa next year)
Strome (either of the C's really)

Derrick Brassard could also be a cheap UFA option.

 

[Captain97]

Derrick Brassard could also be a cheap UFA option.

To my understanding because of his age he doesn't really play centre much anymore and is more of a winger at this point.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Maybe it will be Scott Mellanby.

I don't think there's any doubt it will be Mellanby if Bergie decides to call it a day.

 

[LeHab]

lol

"Source" must have been Agent or Danault trying to pump up the value.

 

[blarneylad]

Let's assume for fun, the Danault leak is legitimate, that would mean he's the pick, but if the beauviller news is to be believed then you could think Drouin is gone now as well

I think he is gone whether he is picked or not

 

[McGees]

Let's assume for fun, the Danault leak is legitimate, that would mean he's the pick, but if the beauviller news is to be believed then you could think Drouin is gone now as well

Pretty obvious Drouin is gone whether to a new team or retirement

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

If Danault is gone we gotta start thinking about 3c replacements:

UFA:
Bonino
Haula
Stastny
Wennberg

4c's and role Evans as 3
Zajac (kinda old but not bad)
Paquette
R.Nash (3/4 imo)

For Trade possibly
Dvorak (rumored available)
Gourde (Tampa needs cap)
Tierney (ufa next year)
Strome (either of the C's really)

...Haula is an interesting option, imo...cheap, good 200ft player and still young...

 

[Archijerej]

Let's assume for fun, the Danault leak is legitimate, that would mean he's the pick, but if the beauviller news is to be believed then you could think Drouin is gone now as well

Drouin is gone at the first opportunity. It's being reported all over the place. The question is can we do it cost free, or we'll have to absorb a similar contract.

 

[TeacherMan]

...Haula is an interesting option, imo...cheap, good 200ft player and still young...

He won 55% of his face-offs last year too, which we need especially if we lose Danault. Haula looks like a 35-point per season guy. How good is he defensively? And what would it cost to get him? At 30, he's not that young.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

He won 55% of his face-offs last year too, which we need especially if we lose Danault. Haula looks like a 35-point per season guy. How good is he defensively? And what would it cost to get him? At 30, he's not that young.

...he's above average defensively and has a bit of a scoring touch...would be a cheap alternative for a couple seasons...

 

[MD thaivuN]

8x 5.8M

For Phil...

>resign Danault for 8x8
>immediately retire as GM